Wilder lost dressing room
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Didn't realize you were a ITK fan Rodders. Would we really be surprised with some of the deals, I think there is a big difference in having a wish list and actually having the finance to bring them into the club. For me the club has to remain financially stable, presumably these deals would have a step to far, but as ever all about opinions.
Believe or don't believe, i aint saying no more Dezza but as i said i was surprised by some of the goings on this summer with deals.When someone tells me something and doesn't want me to say owt i keep the promise i gave, i'm not trying to get on anyone's nerves by the way i don't alot of info. UTMPB
However, is CW willing to take advice, should it be (or when it is) offered?
There was a “spat” wasn’t there about getting a director of football involved?
The quality and return on the £120+ millions (or whatever it is) has been woeful.
Hopefully, he is the one to steady everything, hopefully before the end of the season, and then bring us back up.
But will he have learned enough from the last two seasons to make a success of it in the Premiership next time around?
If you recall, in his rant after the Leicester game, he referred to all the 10 outfield players as League 1 and Championship players.
Following on from that, where do you think he sees himself as a manager?
There was a “spat” wasn’t there about getting a director of football involved?
The quality and return on the £120+ millions (or whatever it is) has been woeful.
Hopefully, he is the one to steady everything, hopefully before the end of the season, and then bring us back up.
But will he have learned enough from the last two seasons to make a success of it in the Premiership next time around?
If you recall, in his rant after the Leicester game, he referred to all the 10 outfield players as League 1 and Championship players.
Following on from that, where do you think he sees himself as a manager?
I doubt I would be surprised m8 we will have made enquiries for a lot of players I don’t think for one minute what came in in the summer we’re his first choices (apart from ramsdale) but his first for what we were prepared to pay but it’s whether that was down to HRH the CEO or Chris’s valuation that we didn’t get who we wanted originally that matters
We do know someone who has been spectacular at getting promotions, but has been in the PL four times and relegated four times, don't we.?
I have long held a theory that managers are either good at working with next to nowt, or good at spending big money. The comment elsewhere about Aldi to Waitrose is absolutely spot on. I don't see any change at all in CW's approach from the end of first lockdown to now. 30 plus games of shyte hoofball, and we are still playing the same formation and style. Thats not suggesting to me that we should give him any more slack at all. He's had 20 games more than any other manager would have had at any other club, and we're still shyte. You can deny it based on four great years, and 'who can we get thats better' but if we're being honest, we know it to be true...
If HRH does think CW is up to it and gives him a chance to get us promoted again, he should do and then if promotion comes he should do the smart thing, fire him and get a foreign manager who knows how to play the PL way.
I have long held a theory that managers are either good at working with next to nowt, or good at spending big money. The comment elsewhere about Aldi to Waitrose is absolutely spot on. I don't see any change at all in CW's approach from the end of first lockdown to now. 30 plus games of shyte hoofball, and we are still playing the same formation and style. Thats not suggesting to me that we should give him any more slack at all. He's had 20 games more than any other manager would have had at any other club, and we're still shyte. You can deny it based on four great years, and 'who can we get thats better' but if we're being honest, we know it to be true...
If HRH does think CW is up to it and gives him a chance to get us promoted again, he should do and then if promotion comes he should do the smart thing, fire him and get a foreign manager who knows how to play the PL way.
Two theories I totally agree with and have also mentioned before.
Ability to spend big money always a problem for Aldi buyers.
Sacking the manager who gets you there.
It's harsh but it's realistic.
On a more general basis promoting from within is fraught with problems particularly if you are the one who has promoted/stuck with that person.
You have a vested interest in their success and , often, keep them longer than you would someone from outside, when you know that you need to do the right thing.
It can also be counter productive for them as they know deep down that they can't hack it but don't want to quit and let you down.
Once promoted beyond their ability level there is no fall back position, except for losing face and going back into the ranks, or leaving.
As I said in another post how does the prince get assurances from CW that he has learned from his mistakes? If he challenges him on a football basis, his methods, his tactics, his style, his results, he's seen as interfering.
If he doesn't he shows he hasn't learned from the expeience either and is putting faith in hope over experience.
Keeping CW on will mean setting him some very specific timed tagets for him to achieve before the prince takes action.How long does he 'trust in Wilder'???
Ability to spend big money always a problem for Aldi buyers.
Sacking the manager who gets you there.
It's harsh but it's realistic.
On a more general basis promoting from within is fraught with problems particularly if you are the one who has promoted/stuck with that person.
You have a vested interest in their success and , often, keep them longer than you would someone from outside, when you know that you need to do the right thing.
It can also be counter productive for them as they know deep down that they can't hack it but don't want to quit and let you down.
Once promoted beyond their ability level there is no fall back position, except for losing face and going back into the ranks, or leaving.
As I said in another post how does the prince get assurances from CW that he has learned from his mistakes? If he challenges him on a football basis, his methods, his tactics, his style, his results, he's seen as interfering.
If he doesn't he shows he hasn't learned from the expeience either and is putting faith in hope over experience.
Keeping CW on will mean setting him some very specific timed tagets for him to achieve before the prince takes action.How long does he 'trust in Wilder'???
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Where have i said it's nowt to do with our Chris then Pops? I stick by what i said it isn't all down to the manager if you disagree that's entirely up to thee mi owd pal.I don't know if you want a change in manager at our club,if you do want a change you may or may not get your wish this summer although i sincerely hope our Chris is still here for many many years in the future. UTMPB
