PsychoTheLegend
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Owd permenent.....
Pope John XXIII - 7/2/2018 18:54
Calvin Plummer - 7/2/2018 17:16
toms - 7/2/2018 17:11
AdebolaCornflakes - 7/2/2018 14:52
There is always a place for youth. We haven't been shite these last few years because we've been blooding the likes of Osborn, Brereton, Cash and Worrall; it's largely been down to a shite defence which several managers have failed to strengthen.
It would be such a shame to see the players named above benched all of a sudden now we have some experienced players in. It strikes me that we have a pretty good balance between youth and experience now.
Sorry mate but none of the above are good enough to be consistently play in a promotion chasing team. Karanka knows this. The only people who think otherwise are idealists. We will end up hopefully being no different to other clubs, namely introducing only the very best youngsters for a few games and loaning out the rest
We will look back at the days of worrall, Smith, Osborn and cash with nostalgic fondness wishing them well for their loans at burton, reading, Brentford and derby
Definitely, injury prone aging players who aren't wanted by their current teams are the way to go.
Yet you celebrated the signing of Murphy and the extension to Fox, who are both exactly as you describe but more expensive and at least in Fox's case, shit
jbacsta - 7/2/2018 20:42
Apparently Olimpiacos signed him for £2.5 million 2 years ago, played every game including champions league last season and then they cancelled his contract. Two weeks later he signs for us because "he likes us". Looks like the big man has a complete understanding of FFP to me. Join all the others that seem to be getting round it.
mao tse tung - 8/2/2018 10:03
Pope John XXIII - 7/2/2018 18:54
Calvin Plummer - 7/2/2018 17:16
toms - 7/2/2018 17:11
AdebolaCornflakes - 7/2/2018 14:52
There is always a place for youth. We haven't been shite these last few years because we've been blooding the likes of Osborn, Brereton, Cash and Worrall; it's largely been down to a shite defence which several managers have failed to strengthen.
It would be such a shame to see the players named above benched all of a sudden now we have some experienced players in. It strikes me that we have a pretty good balance between youth and experience now.
Sorry mate but none of the above are good enough to be consistently play in a promotion chasing team. Karanka knows this. The only people who think otherwise are idealists. We will end up hopefully being no different to other clubs, namely introducing only the very best youngsters for a few games and loaning out the rest
We will look back at the days of worrall, Smith, Osborn and cash with nostalgic fondness wishing them well for their loans at burton, reading, Brentford and derby
Definitely, injury prone aging players who aren't wanted by their current teams are the way to go.
Yet you celebrated the signing of Murphy and the extension to Fox, who are both exactly as you describe but more expensive and at least in Fox's case, shit
More expensive than what?
Do you honestly think that the new guys have all signed for bargain prices?
Geddy fell into the same category as Murphy; he had a contract to pay up (a longer contract than Murphy) so that he could move on a free.
Clubs have two choices when signing players on PL contracts; match the contract or pay the existing one up and then pay the player less over longer - clubs usually go for the second option so that the incoming player fits in with the existing pay structure
Could you seriously see Watson cancel his contract with Watford unless there was a lucrative signing on fee being dangled in front of him?
As glad as I am to see them all sign I don't think for one minute they are doing us a big favour by playing for nothing.
I'm not sure what your point is with Fox; he signed his contract extension in July 2016 which was under Fawaz's jurisdiction and prior to MW and EM having any influence.
Pope John XXIII - 8/2/2018 10:21
mao tse tung - 8/2/2018 10:03
Pope John XXIII - 7/2/2018 18:54
Calvin Plummer - 7/2/2018 17:16
toms - 7/2/2018 17:11
AdebolaCornflakes - 7/2/2018 14:52
There is always a place for youth. We haven't been shite these last few years because we've been blooding the likes of Osborn, Brereton, Cash and Worrall; it's largely been down to a shite defence which several managers have failed to strengthen.
It would be such a shame to see the players named above benched all of a sudden now we have some experienced players in. It strikes me that we have a pretty good balance between youth and experience now.
Sorry mate but none of the above are good enough to be consistently play in a promotion chasing team. Karanka knows this. The only people who think otherwise are idealists. We will end up hopefully being no different to other clubs, namely introducing only the very best youngsters for a few games and loaning out the rest
We will look back at the days of worrall, Smith, Osborn and cash with nostalgic fondness wishing them well for their loans at burton, reading, Brentford and derby
Definitely, injury prone aging players who aren't wanted by their current teams are the way to go.
Yet you celebrated the signing of Murphy and the extension to Fox, who are both exactly as you describe but more expensive and at least in Fox's case, shit
More expensive than what?
Do you honestly think that the new guys have all signed for bargain prices?
Geddy fell into the same category as Murphy; he had a contract to pay up (a longer contract than Murphy) so that he could move on a free.
Clubs have two choices when signing players on PL contracts; match the contract or pay the existing one up and then pay the player less over longer - clubs usually go for the second option so that the incoming player fits in with the existing pay structure
Could you seriously see Watson cancel his contract with Watford unless there was a lucrative signing on fee being dangled in front of him?
As glad as I am to see them all sign I don't think for one minute they are doing us a big favour by playing for nothing.
I'm not sure what your point is with Fox; he signed his contract extension in July 2016 which was under Fawaz's jurisdiction and prior to MW and EM having any influence.
I'm referring to Murphy's fee. Yes, perhaps that was offsetting wages for FFP purposes but it still amounts to £2m plus weekly wages for 3 years- a fair whack of money.
I'm under no illusions about the new signings being cheap, but Fox isn't cheap either for his contribution.
We haven't made many long term commitments this window-shopping a couple of 2 year contracts to slightly older players is being played up as bad business by certain people
Sniffer Dog - 8/2/2018 10:38
Honestly, I really can't see anything wrong with having 3 or 4 thirty somethings about the place.
Plus last time I checked all the youngsters were still here.
So...
mao tse tung - 8/2/2018 12:17
Sniffer Dog - 8/2/2018 10:38
Honestly, I really can't see anything wrong with having 3 or 4 thirty somethings about the place.
Plus last time I checked all the youngsters were still here.
So...
The type of player we have just purchased will greatly benefit the development of the youngsters, not hinder their progress.
We have a far more balanced squad now that we did at the start of the season.
Another three or four out in the summer, replaced by better quality, and we can start to look at a top six position next season.
I think it was expected... with the Panti `personal issues` highlighted by AK .... hope he does well and plays the other 3 games ...Kapino will start at Cardiff today.
Me too Malta, he's a big lad, think he's only a couple of inches shorter than Panti. I really hope he does well.I think it was expected... with the Panti `personal issues` highlighted by AK .... hope he does well and plays the other 3 games ...
The lad has played in the Champions League, World Cup Qualifiers and Olympiakos - Panathinaikos derby games (it doesn't get any 'hotter' than that). I don't think he'll be too intimidated playing at Cardiff.