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Yup true James, build abuse into the system and people will take advantage sadly. Especially when kids see their parents living on the dole and think that's a real option for them when they're older. Becomes natural doesn't it.

But instead of focusing on that and turning it back into a real safety net that is enough to survive, but not a viable alternative to work should it come along, the Gov/press focuses on extra bedrooms, the minority who genuinely fiddle as opposed to the majority who can't get work however hard they try and so on and everythink gets muddled again.

Not heard that 12K figure myself, but even that could be spun two ways really if it's long term unemployed. The angle you read about a number finding work based on the changes, or just simply a number who finally found work.

I did read unemployment's going down again month on month in general now, and whilst long may that continue, it's another problem of population and immigration (whatever anybodies thoughts on real immigration ie skilled workers coming to work) there are only a finite amount of jobs in a single country and there are too many heads to go round ultimately.
 
A jobless couple are demanding a new four-bedroom council house after having six children in their one-bedroom flat because the mother claims she is so 'super-fertile' it stops contraception working.

Maggie Flisher, 26, and husband Gavin, 30, who get £27,000 a year in benefits, have not had jobs since the birth of their first child in 2005.

Mrs Flisher claims she cannot help getting pregnant and says they have needed a bigger home ever since they started their family eight years ago.

She blames repeated failures with the pill, condoms, arm implants and a contaceptive injection for five out of six of the pregnancies.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2365312/Jobless-couple-claim-27-000-year-benefits-want-new-council-house-theyve-SIX-children-accident-living-bedroom-flat.html#ixzz2ZDWzLGg6

here you go jim lol
 
im surprised the boyfriend never said, we even stopped having sex for two years, and she still got pregnant ...
 
there are only a finite amount of jobs in a single country and there are too many heads to go round ultimately.
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Do you really think there are too many here? I mean, I could understand if you were talking about India or China...But United Kingdom are you sure?

If you take a drive into many populated areas you can easily see that it is rife for business. The problem we have is laziness and lack of invention, intelligence.

Go take a look on the council estates - everything is shut down business wise and the places are usually littered, with graffiti over the walls, the Kids run riot etc...These places are just waiting for businesses to open, jobs galore if they f___king want them!
These whole estates/areas could transform in a matter of months if the people want it..Pubs, restaurants, shops, barbers, etc could all open up - these people do eat, drink, have hair cuts and buy shopping I tale it? This would just be start too. Engineering, manufacturing could also open up as the area improves. - The prices in China are now rising and Europe is well set for another boom (but just wait, the Germans will prosper here). - We aint got the brains or the workers. We are a nation of dim witted, lazy good for nothings..Even the so called "genuine" have lost it! They just sit and wait for something to drop into their laps.

The daily mail - "if" they said 90% that claim benefits are lazy or fraudsters = I dont think they are too far wrong!
 
Green Tea - 16/7/2013 13:05

The problem we have is laziness and lack of invention, intelligence.


These places are just waiting for businesses to open, jobs galore if they f___king want them!

These whole estates/areas could transform in a matter of months if the people want it..Pubs, restaurants, shops, barbers, etc could all open up - these people do eat, drink, have hair cuts and buy shopping I tale it?

We aint got the brains or the workers. We are a nation of dim witted, lazy good for nothings..Even the so called "genuine" have lost it! They just sit and wait for something to drop into their laps.
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I'm sorry but that is complete and utter bull, you make it sound so easy, I take it that you are not a recent business owner, the red tape, the regulations, the invented jobs for all the boys, like health and safety etc which all eat into your start up costs, the excessive taxes on the premises you use, the phoneline, on everything you buy, on everything you sell, everyone wants their pound of flesh for doing nothing while you work 18 hour days.

"people do eat, drink, have hair cuts and buy shopping I tale it?" Yes they do, they go to supermarkets because they are cheaper, which means those local shops you champion the "lazy" to open can't compete against the corporations and they close, they can't compete because our government gives the corporations huge tax breaks, while the local businessman gets screwed.

Pubs and restaurants closed and closing everywhere due to lack of custom due to lack of disposable income, again, due to our government.

Yet you place the blame at the feet of the unemployed on a council estate?

Do you read the daily mail by any chance?




 
That was a joke. Actually, I read the Guardian because I'm a socialist, hippy, liberal, left-wing, teacher, capitalist, businessman.
 
BodyButter - 17/7/2013 10:44

That was a joke. Actually, I read the Guardian because I'm a socialist, hippy, liberal, left-wing, teacher, capitalist, businessman.
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I am going have to shoot you....nothing personal.



 
At least he has, as a part of the alert team, alerted you BodyButter.

Harsh he may be, but always fair me thinks.
 
Green Tea - 17/7/2013 02:05

The daily mail - "if" they said 90% that claim benefits are lazy or fraudsters = I dont think they are too far wrong!
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THEY didn't, I said the way they report things, you would THINK 90% are lazy or fraudsters.

I think the fraud figure, last time I read something (so not the Daily Mail) was around 1% of the benefits bill.

I could, of course, just be making up %'s to suit my agenda like most of the press do!

 
I once won a competition in the Mail on Sunday magazine supplement (think it's called 'You'), a holiday to India worth over 10k .
 
Jonah - 17/7/2013 20:13

BodyButter - 17/7/2013 10:44

That was a joke. Actually, I read the Guardian because I'm a socialist, hippy, liberal, left-wing, teacher, capitalist, businessman.
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I am going have to shoot you....nothing personal.
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Are you going to shoot me because hanging is too good for me? :67:
 
Decent, like a lot of crap papers, sports sections but I don't buy or read any paper now. I do look online for footie news but I don't need to be told by papers like that who to hate and what to think, so leave the rest out of my life!
 
My dad is 59 and has spongulitus or something like that which his spine etc is rotting away he has days he can't walk yet he is down the job centre every week looking for work at the moment, he doesn't take all his medication to deal with the headaches and pains from the condition as its too expensive so im sure there are many out there who can work as soon as my eye operations take place and are a success i will be joining my dad down the jobcentre for work we all should try or crack the whip on the lazy feckers not all are im not talking about the disabled poorly folk (genuine)
 
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