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SKEGGY - 13/7/2013 11:42

Many benefits are taxable and means tested. All the means testing does is prevent those who have worked hard or partner still does claiming an out of work benefit if they unfortunately fall on hard times

Yup. Usually the wrong people are hit by means testing but it could be done more fairly
 
Finally watching this.

I am I the only one actually more against the working parents and their self hyped wannabee bullshit attitude and how they treat the benefit claimers?

What's the point in two hot meals a day? You fucking twat.

Staying home to raise kids isn't good enough? Maybe for you love, but some it's called being a parent and one of you should. I've done it, whilst the missus worked so maybe I have a perspective...6 hours while they are at school if you're not a knob doesn't allow you to watch Jeremy Kyle, you are washing, cleaning, moping, vacuuming, dusting and all the other gay things a man shouldn't do....I did.

Christ I know this programme wants to spark discussion, but did they really pick workers who are dickheads?

What's the point in two hot meals a day you fucking munter!
 
Aha you're on a budget, don't buy a whole chicken whilst bitching about the salt in beans, you should buy chicken fillets because it has less bones.

My GOD she's a fucking cock!

My God can Sun readers and Daily Fail fucktards just die?
 
The only sensible oint so far is people out of work want to find the dream job, any job is beneath them for whatever reason....and that's where the benefit state is fucked. Any job should be the aim, not one they want.

The whole thing is a misdirection though, the tabloids are the devil of our life.

We spend far more propping up the unelected wankers in Europe. We spend more covering the landscape gardeners employed by our MP's (and their family members the corrupt fuckers) and their expenses.

We spend far more allowing HMRC to do deals with big companies where they can decimate their actually tax bill by paying the 'suck me option' and avoiding a court case.

Bunch of wankers, wankers, wankers.

I hope a few break their cocks.

And why oh why, does a foodbank carry crisps!!!!!!

I think I need to go bed. I'm not sure who is meant to win in this bullshit programme.

I do however find it ironic the black entry so far is portrayed as being the laziest.
 
mike_field - 16/7/2013 02:44

Aha you're on a budget, don't buy a whole chicken whilst bitching about the salt in beans, you should buy chicken fillets because it has less bones.

My GOD she's a fucking cock!

My God can Sun readers and Daily Fail fucktards just die?

Yes, that bit made me cross, the lady was doing exactly the right thing buying a whole chicken, which would cost no more than the chicken breasts the working women was saying get.

If you are on a budget you don't buy the best cuts, you buy the whole thing if you can and get a few meals out of it.
 
Then you can use the carcass for stock to to make a stew type though not in this heat. Maybe just freeze the stock of another day.

You can get at least 3 meals out of a chicken whether you skint or not
 
The lady advising was superbly arrogant and I could see why fatty fat fat layabout can't be arsed to work got so upset! :17:
 
mike_field - 16/7/2013 02:41

am I the only one actually more against the working parents and their self hyped wannabee bullshit attitude and how they treat the benefit claimers?

Oh Michael, dear friend.

You have fallen into the trap of the BBC and their left wing, drip feed, socialist propaganda.
 
James06 - 16/7/2013 11:53

mike_field - 16/7/2013 02:41

am I the only one actually more against the working parents and their self hyped wannabee bullshit attitude and how they treat the benefit claimers?

Oh Michael, dear friend.

You have fallen into the trap of the BBC and their left wing, drip feed, socialist propaganda.

hes lost in the socialist wilderness after being dumped by fear :21: the signs are all there, watching the bbc till 3am :56:
 
You dont have to watch programmes like 'Michael Portillio spends a week with an unemployed scouse slapper with 18 kids' to realise that the whole agenda is to fool you into thinking that toff boy cant cope, life is tough, and these parasites arent the scumbags you think they are.
 
Removing this due to knee jerk reactionary ignorance.


although I would still castrate those who have dolphin tattoss and are able to frequent public houses whilst claiming job seekers.


 
Why is it a one or the other.

Why not both?

Why not fix the country bottom up and top down.

Why I asks ya, why!?

But yes, facts should be stated a bit more clearly, gutter press like the Daily Mail would have you believe 90% of those on the dole are spongers and fraudsters etc. Be nice (as done in this programme) to have the proper % and £ facts to hand, we can then make up our own minds.

The truth doesn't suit the agenda with a lot of the press though.
 
im sure you can provide evidence of the mail reporting of the 90 percent ....

no one knows how many are fiddling or sponging as no such figures can be deemed as accurate, same as tax dodging, or do you really believe people go round with clip boards asking such questions?
 
James06 - 16/7/2013 11:53

mike_field - 16/7/2013 02:41

am I the only one actually more against the working parents and their self hyped wannabee bullshit attitude and how they treat the benefit claimers?

Oh Michael, dear friend.

You have fallen into the trap of the BBC and their left wing, drip feed, socialist propaganda.

I was assuming it was by design but still needed to air my thoughts - daftly I didn't think it would be that obvious.

With some of the workers slowly changing opinions by the end, I'm expecting the next one to possibly turn on the unemployed now in some kind of faux attempt at balance. Turn on one or two of them who don't accept a job when offered.

Still what sure what was wrong with the black lad volunteering either. At least he was doing something and it'll look better on his CV anyway.
 
badge73 - 16/7/2013 12:00

James06 - 16/7/2013 11:53

mike_field - 16/7/2013 02:41

am I the only one actually more against the working parents and their self hyped wannabee bullshit attitude and how they treat the benefit claimers?

Oh Michael, dear friend.

You have fallen into the trap of the BBC and their left wing, drip feed, socialist propaganda.

hes lost in the socialist wilderness after being dumped by fear :21: the signs are all there, watching the bbc till 3am :56:

I'll have you know young chap I wasn't watching the BBC. I was working my way through recordings and had just finished Boston Legal so thought I'd give that a whirl to polish the night off! lol
 
As always though it's not the people it's the system. I'm sure I heard that 12k have 'found' work just on the back of hearing of the reforms to the system, let alone once the changes took place.

The easy way to stop people sponging off the system is to not have that system in place to allow it.

If though there is an opportunity to get money for nothing then people will take advantage - me included!
 
Certainly a lot more that can be done. Yes benefits may only be a tiny % overall, but it still shouldn't be a lifestyle. It was meant to be a safety net to basically keep a roof over your head, enough food on the table and the heating and lighting on.

Yes it's not all by any stretch, and the overblown tiny % who do 'do' benefits as a job need to be dealt with, but catigating everyone with the same brush misses the point.

There's a lot to be said for food vouchers, an insistence that a % of that goes on veg and fruit and I still don't see what's wrong with the idea of some kind of social minded work in return for benefits either. I know we discussed it at length on here months back, and I'm sure the positives far outweighed the negatives.

So much you could actually do to redress the balance somewhat, and make things a little fairer - bbut it'd probably (like the NHS) be easier to blow the whole system up and start from scratch again now.