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Discrepancy between number of seats people can see on the plan and what club are saying are available. Maybe the limit on season tickets leave a few available on the day.
 
Casperimp said:
Unfortunately then you won't be going anywhere with lots of people for a very very long time if ever at all because there will always be thousands of cases just like there are thousands of cases of flu.

Safety will never return as it did before the pandemic and COVID-19 is here to stay. It will never go away it will rise and fall as do the myriad of other viruses and diseases around the world but the vaccines have given us a fantastic chance of fighting it off if we get it just like our natural immunity to influenza does but it still gets thousands of us every year.

The point is if you keep restrictions after most people have been vaccinated then the other diseases that we have built up natural immunity to will come to the fore again. Apparently here were very few flu deaths last year compared to other years because people weren't mixing and spreading it around. This year it will likely rocket because it will come back with a vengeance because our natural immunity will diminish.

As a society we have to accept that viruses and diseases will get some of us that is just the way of the world but if you keep restrictions and lock downs and that causes more deaths from other flu variants, depression, cancelled treatments, domestic violence etc then the cure becomes more deadly than the disease.

Oh and 489 tickets left now and there were 584 when the club tweeted they had sold over 6,000 on Friday.
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Yep agreed. Covid is here to stay and will claim lives every year like other viruses do. Hopefully we'll never see mortality/hospitalisation numbers close to last year and Q1 of this year though.
 
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Yeah when we had 200 people in the county hospital with it , including nearly 30 in icu in January February time.
It was horrible seeing the mortuary trolley taking bodies to the morgue several times a day during the winter months.
Get vaccinated and wear a mask indoors for a bit longer, not much to ask is it?
 
Casperimp said:
Unfortunately then you won't be going anywhere with lots of people for a very very long time if ever at all because there will always be thousands of cases just like there are thousands of cases of flu.

Safety will never return as it did before the pandemic and COVID-19 is here to stay. It will never go away it will rise and fall as do the myriad of other viruses and diseases around the world but the vaccines have given us a fantastic chance of fighting it off if we get it just like our natural immunity to influenza does but it still gets thousands of us every year.

The point is if you keep restrictions after most people have been vaccinated then the other diseases that we have built up natural immunity to will come to the fore again. Apparently here were very few flu deaths last year compared to other years because people weren't mixing and spreading it around. This year it will likely rocket because it will come back with a vengeance because our natural immunity will diminish.

As a society we have to accept that viruses and diseases will get some of us that is just the way of the world but if you keep restrictions and lock downs and that causes more deaths from other flu variants, depression, cancelled treatments, domestic violence etc then the cure becomes more deadly than the disease.

Oh and 489 tickets left now and there were 584 when the club tweeted they had sold over 6,000 on Friday.
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Always be over thousands of cases?
Well not in all the countries where this has been dealt with properly.

But here where cases are climbing and climbing, it seems very less than sensible to remove all precautions and just let everyone catch it (though that is the deliberate plan).

Would people go wandering aimlessly through a minefield (and even ask for more mines to be laid) or instead wait for the mines to be cleared?

Further, I'm not a wealthy person, far from it, I'd like to live long enough to be able to clear all debts and have a home of my own to pass on to my family.
I'm in three covid-vulnerable groups so although vaccine may give me some protection, can I be sure I'm not in the 10% still at risk? No I can't.
Figures released during June showed 42% of covid deaths occurred in people double-vaccinated. So danger is still there.
 
HoofGrantBrown said:
Always be over thousands of cases?
Well not in all the countries where this has been dealt with properly.
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If we keep doing this amount of testing (over a million tests every day) there will always be thousands of cases. If we did over a million tests every day for flu we would have thousands of flu cases. No other country in the world is doing the absurd levels of testing that we are doing. If you go looking for something then of course you are going to find it -

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IMP757 said:
If we keep doing this amount of testing (over a million tests every day) there will always be thousands of cases. If we did over a million tests every day for flu we would have thousands of flu cases. No other country in the world is doing the absurd levels of testing that we are doing. If you go looking for something then of course you are going to find it -

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"Absurd" levels of testing? You understand that testing underpins the basic pandemic tenet of test, trace, isolate, right? Not that the £37 billion spaffed on Tory cronies has established a decent system of that.

But yes, let's do fewer tests so we can pretend there aren't any cases. If we did no tests at all, we could even claim covid doesn't exist. 🙄
 
IMP757 said:
If we keep doing this amount of testing (over a million tests every day) there will always be thousands of cases. If we did over a million tests every day for flu we would have thousands of flu cases. No other country in the world is doing the absurd levels of testing that we are doing. If you go looking for something then of course you are going to find it -

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In Germany for example they are only testing 10% of what we are so obviously their positive figures will be much lower than ours, they are not doing it better than the UK, far from it.
 
Some L1 season ticket sales so far:

Ipswich 12,100
Portsmouth 12,000 flexi-tickets
Bolton 9,050
Charlton 8,550
Lincoln 6,000
Plymouth 5,500
Shrewsbury 3,000
Cambridge 2,050

Wigan are reporting their best first day's sales for six years, while the likes of Gillingham and Accrington have only just gone on sale.
 
impsimps said:
In Germany for example they are only testing 10% of what we are so obviously their positive figures will be much lower than ours, they are not doing it better than the UK, far from it.
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Except they are doing better than the UK, way better.
Half the death rate.
And currently UK recorded over 34,000 cases today whilst Germany recorded only 240. (And by the way, if cases are much lower then there will as a result be far less people who need testing).

Compare us also with say Japan, another large population island nation, they have recorded only 6% of the death rate we've had.
Korea, similar population to us have had only 2% of the death rate we've had.

And Australia...well just one death, one since Christmas.

Things could have been totally different and still could be if all the advantages the vaccine programme should now be giving us were not being thrown away by just letting the virus now run wild.
 
HoofGrantBrown said:
Except they are doing better than the UK, way better.
Half the death rate.
And currently UK recorded over 34,000 cases today whilst Germany recorded only 240. (And by the way, if cases are much lower then there will as a result be far less people who need testing).

Compare us also with say Japan, another large population island nation, they have recorded only 6% of the death rate we've had.
Korea, similar population to us have had only 2% of the death rate we've had.

And Australia...well just one death, one since Christmas.

Things could have been totally different and still could be if all the advantages the vaccine programme should now be giving us were not being thrown away by just letting the virus now run wild.
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As our scientists say you should really be looking at the total excess figures not just the covid figures which varous governments release, as countries do not report the same way way.
UK ONS - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26


By country
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
 
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NottyImp said:
"Absurd" levels of testing? You understand that testing underpins the basic pandemic tenet of test, trace, isolate, right? Not that the £37 billion spaffed on Tory cronies has established a decent system of that.

But yes, let's do fewer tests so we can pretend there aren't any cases. If we did no tests at all, we could even claim covid doesn't exist. 🙄
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What good is it really doing though? There is no correlation of outcomes between countries that did rigorous TTI and those that didn't. It just appears to be a colossal waste of time and money.
 
IMP757 said:
What good is it really doing though? There is no correlation of outcomes between countries that did rigorous TTI and those that didn't. It just appears to be a colossal waste of time and money.
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South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, China? Much better than us and all had rigorous TTI.

Yes, in the UK a collosal waste of money because it was implemented late and poorly through the private sector to line the pockets of Tory donors and MPs. Plus, no incentive to isolate because said Tories provided no funding to help people do so.
 
NottyImp said:
South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, China? Much better than us and all had rigorous TTI.
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Pre-existing population immunity for the most part - their TTI might have made a slight difference at the beginning of the outbreak, either way the virus is going through the population one way or another. Waste of time looking at China's numbers - 92000 cases and 4.5k deaths in a population of 1.4 billion is just blatant misreporting.
 
I've worked in a hospital dealing with this for the last 18 months, it's been a breeze, we've just made tiktok videos all day!
 
IMP757 said:
Pre-existing population immunity for the most part - their TTI might have made a slight difference at the beginning of the outbreak, either way the virus is going through the population one way or another. Waste of time looking at China's numbers - 92000 cases and 4.5k deaths in a population of 1.4 billion is just blatant misreporting.
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Pop in ICU mate, it's a right laugh!
Especially in January and February when 10 a day were dying from it, then we nearly get on top it and the blonde moron let the delta variant in, how we celebrated that news!
 
IMP757 said:
Pre-existing population immunity for the most part - their TTI might have made a slight difference at the beginning of the outbreak, either way the virus is going through the population one way or another. Waste of time looking at China's numbers - 92000 cases and 4.5k deaths in a population of 1.4 billion is just blatant misreporting.
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Evidence for population immunity? First I've heard that claim, sounds like bullshit.

We could also add, NZ, Australia and Japan.

You've failed to address my other points.
 
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