Strett
Vital Football Hero
They have submitted their request to the EU.
Here we go!
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Pope John XXIII
Vital Football Legend
I understand why we would want to criticise UK government failures given that it is our doctors and nurses dying as a result.
Why would we be interested in criticising the EU's efforts?
I don't see you expending a lot of energy criticising Brazil's risible efforts? Or Russia's?
Other than an extremely nebulous connection to brexit, where is the interest?
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Sorry. Didn’t see this prior to posting
in_the_top_one
Vital Football Legend
I'm quite willing to say that they have been a bit slower than us and that there are problems in lots of places, such as France.
The big difference is that I don't take any pleasure in it.
Nor do I think that many of the issues are "because of the EU". Why on earth are you getting off on the AZ debacle? Seriously, how can that make you happy in any way? Bad things are happening in eu nations, lol.
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Because they’re our closest neighbours, their lives are important and it’s sad they are failing their citizens. I have friends there and their failures are putting their lives at risk because of bloc unity.
It’s really quite pathetic
JC21
Vital Football Hero
The EU is a very strange phenomenon to hear the remainers talk. For decades the likes of Heath, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Cameron, May, Macron, Merkel, etc, etc, along with the big business, IMF and ECB haven't given a fuck about the working class but for some reason when they all get together and have a cup of tea in Brussels that's the only thing that matters to them
Calvin Plummer
Vital Football Legend
You are aware that we failed in the manufacturing process and our doses have been coming from the EU? If AZ fail to address supply then the EU could cut us off...
Strett
Vital Football Hero
this has shown them right up. Very sad.
Pope John XXIII
Vital Football Legend
Your friends on the continent pitied you first and longest
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Not sure what that means.
in_the_top_one
Vital Football Legend
Full data packet submitted to EMA 12th and due to be approved next week.
Wow the EU works fast, huh? Let's give them a huge round of applause.
No, wait. It only took ONE week for the MHRA to approve the full package for the UK. So we work even faster! Hurray!
With that in mind, the two week difference on that particular vaccine makes brexit worthwhile!
But wait, the EMA approved Moderna on the 6th Jan while we had to wait until the 8th (and it will be a long time before we get it in any quantity). So maybe they are better than us again?! It's all so confusing.
Feco
Vital Squad Member
Interesting day today.....
We have been doing an upgrade program for a German company for the last 2 years. The first drive of this years units was dispatched from the plant on Thursday arriving at EMA on Friday morning.
Normally that would have been delivered on Saturday morning, requiring no intervention from me.
Not this time.
The drive is still at EMA, and will remain there until it clears customs.
This morning required 3 hours of calls and document preparations that will eventually allow the drive to enter the country.
It’s likely it will take a couple of hours to prepare the exit documentation too.
We used to allow and charge one day to do the work, that was generally enough to complete the upgrade, prepare the reports, package and ship the drive back to Germany. One day will not cover the customs paperwork required now.
The thing is, the drive has no intrinsic value other than scrap in its current state, and 15kgs of aluminum isn’t worth much.
The upgraded parts will be free issued to me by the customer via the US, (god knows what documentation that will require), no sales value for us on those.
The whole import process is using the Simplified Inward Process......which will defer VAT and duty, assuming the goods are returned, repaired, within 6 months.
If not, then VAT and duty could be charged on the import into the UK.
And the current declared value for the import??? .......€0.01.
Next year should be even more fun when we add in UKCA.
This is not teething issues, this is the deal.........halved productivity at one stroke.
We have been doing an upgrade program for a German company for the last 2 years. The first drive of this years units was dispatched from the plant on Thursday arriving at EMA on Friday morning.
Normally that would have been delivered on Saturday morning, requiring no intervention from me.
Not this time.
The drive is still at EMA, and will remain there until it clears customs.
This morning required 3 hours of calls and document preparations that will eventually allow the drive to enter the country.
It’s likely it will take a couple of hours to prepare the exit documentation too.
We used to allow and charge one day to do the work, that was generally enough to complete the upgrade, prepare the reports, package and ship the drive back to Germany. One day will not cover the customs paperwork required now.
The thing is, the drive has no intrinsic value other than scrap in its current state, and 15kgs of aluminum isn’t worth much.
The upgraded parts will be free issued to me by the customer via the US, (god knows what documentation that will require), no sales value for us on those.
The whole import process is using the Simplified Inward Process......which will defer VAT and duty, assuming the goods are returned, repaired, within 6 months.
If not, then VAT and duty could be charged on the import into the UK.
And the current declared value for the import??? .......€0.01.
Next year should be even more fun when we add in UKCA.
This is not teething issues, this is the deal.........halved productivity at one stroke.
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Moderna won’t be ready until the spring.
what the EU should have done was prioritise approval for ones that are available like, now.
I’m sure the fact the EU approved a vaccine that isn’t available yet, 2 whole days prior to the U.K. will be a huge PR victory.
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
For someone who has been doing all he can to trumpet leaving the EU, you do seem awfully interested in them, constantly posting on what they are doing.
Why dont you focus on your own country for a bit?
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
Exactly, whataboutery your country?
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
They are no doubt liking their lips and why i was so disappointed with the lexits
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
Erm because we are not members any more
Cos our own country is facing any number of crises
There's two reasons off the bat
in_the_top_one
Vital Football Legend
Christ almighty, do you want us to lick your balls or Boris Johnson's first?
That decision, as reported by those who were there at the time, was taken for all the wrong motives. Petty tub-thumping nationalism that plays well to a certain portion of British society.
As it happens, what might be described as a dangerous punt seems to have worked out pretty well for us. That has been acknowledged on here. Yet again, though, we could have done exactly what we did while being full members of the EU. Would we have? Who knows? Depends who was in number ten, I suppose.
Delivery is important. Because you seem to think we have done the right thing because it will "save lives", that all depends on supply and delivery. So far, so good. If our supply delivery falters, is that our fault? It is ridiculous to blame the EU scheme for AZ's manufacturing problems. It looks like they smell a rat. Luckily, they, like us, have quite a broad portfolio of purchases so hopefully they, and we, will be ok long term.
Your last sentence is a classic logical fallacy. You want us to extrapolate that because this EU scheme might not have been as successful as hoped then we are better off out. Garbage.
