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Offensive?

So the EU can't be criticised because you find it offensive?

You criticise(d) the US administration and the UK administration with such alacrity it was like you are being paid.

Why is the EU beyond criticism?

It wasnt but we have left now, remember?

Will of the people yadda yadda. It is no longer our place to criticise a third party organisation we are not part of.

Again, focus on your own country, it has plenty to keep you occupied.

It terms of the US- if you organise a mob that you send into parliament and people die, it needs to be damned with alacrity. How is biden working out for you so far?
 
Desperately searching for anything other than what our leaders are doing. Nothing to see here chaps, oh look whats that over there? Very poor imo

The EU are actually threatening supply of vaccines, yet you concentrate on a surcharge of £30 on some earrings from Athens because they are beyond criticism. Quite bizarre behaviour.
 
The EU are actually threatening supply of vaccines, yet you concentrate on a surcharge of £30 on some earrings from Athens because they are beyond criticism. Quite bizarre behaviour.

More than a whiff of desperation. The eu wants advance notice of vaccine exports. In the meantime millions of brits paying more for same stuff than before we left.

Yup u better run from the light stretts cos the more the details of the deal get highlighted, the worse this deal seems to get.
 
You do jump to some weird and unfounded conclusions.

Does your respected lawyer think that AZ want to terminate an agreement to sell 400m doses to the EU? On what grounds?

Do we believe that a < 3 week turn around by the EMA is unreasonable or sufficient to ditch a deal for 400m doses? It is reported to be approved next week.

Does the lawyer think that the EMA's decision is being held up or will be swayed by UvdL? On what grounds?

Get a grip.
 
I don't think for a single second that they only happen in Brussels but just cos they happen elsewhere it doesn't make me think that it's right.

Do you accept Tory policies just because they happen elsewhere in the world?

It depends on the policy. The same also applies to policies coming from the left.
 
It depends on the policy. The same also applies to policies coming from the left.

Ok, do you accept BAD policies (left or right) just because it's happening elsewhere? Where do you draw the line, why stop at politics? You can't just say something's not wrong because it's happening somewhere else
 
The EU is a very strange phenomenon to hear the remainers talk. For decades the likes of Heath, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Cameron, May, Macron, Merkel, etc, etc, along with the big business, IMF and ECB haven't given a fuck about the working class but for some reason when they all get together and have a cup of tea in Brussels that's the only thing that matters to them

Ah so had it not been for the EU the working class would have been looked after by successive UK governments. Righty-ho.

This is nearly on par with the EU being at fault for the 2008 crash
 
Get help you deluded cretin.


Where’s the evidence for this meltdown because all I remember is you going on a crazy unfounded rant that had all the hallmarks of a standard da Fuq meltdown.


Don’t bother responding & don’t bring up my name as you’ll just make a fool of yourself.


Ha ha ha

week 9

And you still are Jihading the shit out of that meltdown

Woanz the meltdown prophet PBUH ...Yahweh, Allah, and God please help this lost soul

Woanz the Jihadi meltdown king
 
Ok, do you accept BAD policies (left or right) just because it's happening elsewhere? Where do you draw the line, why stop at politics? You can't just say something's not wrong because it's happening somewhere else

You are starting to waffle now.
 
The EU is a very strange phenomenon to hear the remainers talk. For decades the likes of Heath, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Cameron, May, Macron, Merkel, etc, etc, along with the big business, IMF and ECB haven't given a fuck about the working class but for some reason when they all get together and have a cup of tea in Brussels that's the only thing that matters to them
One of the many important features of the EU is that it can implement - and be blamed by member governments for - important policies that might be unpopular in short term cycles. Those policies can be implemented in a fair way that does not substantially disadvantage any particular member state.
Governments might understand, for example, the importance of policies that address climate change in a serious way, but need to be able to blame it on someone else because it will be expensive in the first instance (and then cheaper) and not necessarily immediately popular with the electorate.
It also protects the working class because pan european protections are easier to put in place at that level than unilaterally by, say, Tory governments or, even worse, Blair's 'labour' - the same goes for workers in other nations, of course. And nobody gets voted out because they say, "well it's Europe, not us!" Some have taken that too far and failed to promote the positive case for the EU, which is a failure of governments.
 
Ah so had it not been for the EU the working class would have been looked after by successive UK governments. Righty-ho.

This is nearly on par with the EU being at fault for the 2008 crash

No they wouldn't and I've never said they would but just like the Tories don't give a fuck about the working class neither does the capitalist hegemony of the EU.
 
More than a whiff of desperation. The eu wants advance notice of vaccine exports. In the meantime millions of brits paying more for same stuff than before we left.

Yup u better run from the light stretts cos the more the details of the deal get highlighted, the worse this deal seems to get.


He's going to be a marginalised voice soon as he is too far gone to admit he has some responsibility for causing the shit that this country is going to have to put up with until we get back into the EU

He is the most extreme Brextremist

He will never find fault with it

Don't for one moment believe he voted to remain

I'm in one of the highest leave voting areas in the country - Devon

People are realising they fucked up and parts of Devon are some of the poorest in the country and are now going to be even further fucked up

Not surprising as it's mainly run by the Tories with a couple of exceptions like Exeter
 
listen BT/ITTO, I'm really not having an EU debate, my mistake for laughing last night. You believe that the EU has the workers/citizens at heart then that's fair enough. I disagree and think the proof is there for everyone to see
 
One of the many important features of the EU is that it can implement - and be blamed by member governments for - important policies that might be unpopular in short term cycles. Those policies can be implemented in a fair way that does not substantially disadvantage any particular member state.
Governments might understand, for example, the importance of policies that address climate change in a serious way, but need to be able to blame it on someone else because it will be expensive in the first instance (and then cheaper) and not necessarily immediately popular with the electorate.
It also protects the working class because pan european protections are easier to put in place at that level than unilaterally by, say, Tory governments or, even worse, Blair's 'labour' - the same goes for workers in other nations, of course. And nobody gets voted out because they say, "well it's Europe, not us!" Some have taken that too far and failed to promote the positive case for the EU, which is a failure of governments.

A very important point.
The days of playing the 'blame the EU' card, when it is clearly not their fault, used by bad policies/politicians are now over.

Will this expose the incompetence of our own leaders here in the UK? I believe it will, as that blame card has been binned.
This is a benefit of having no second level of governance, which which to apportion blame onto. The bad choices need to be owned.
 
I believe Turkey was recently trying to join the EU but haven't heard whether they were successful, anybody know ?


Nope it was one of the many lies put out by the leave campaign and it was one of the most effective up there with 350m for the NHS, Sovereignty ( which we always had ) closing our boarders which wont happen we will just get more brown, yellow and black people ( the only good thing about Brexit IMHO ) because of trade deals etc, we will be economically better off, we will be able to strike trade deal that will be better for us ...nope

They claimed 76m Turks were going to flood the UK

They just fucking lied about every thing and it was done over decades and it has been so effective when you read some of the tripe on here by some of the Brextremists