Razorpound
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What a boring thread.
EU strategy to destroy the Chequers ‘agreement’...
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Vambogills
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Rees Mogg has clearly been to the Diane Abbott school of maths.
52% to 48% is a significant margin of victory but a vote win of 200 to 117 is not.
52% to 48% is a significant margin of victory but a vote win of 200 to 117 is not.
LSB2
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1.3M is more significant 83. Unless of course, you are Diane Abbott lol
GillsBluenose
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That doesn't make sense, The EU has eliminated quotas but will not permit dumping? That is contradictory.
When I referred to dumping, I meant that when there are no tariffs, the Japanese will have unlimited free rein to sell their hi tech goods to EU citizens at a much more attractive price. That is not even mentioning giants like Honda, Nissan and Toyota being more able to compete with the German and French car manufacturers on a level playing field.
Of course, the same will apply vice versa so I suppose the citizens of Tokyo can snap up all the Polish, Bulgarian, Romanian, Lithuanian and Maltese goods they have been hankering after.
We will have to keep an eye on changes in trade deficits between the EU and Japan.
Wayne.Kerr
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You didn't know what a trade deal was between two states but it didn't stop you pontificating about how the UK would be better off outside the EU. At least you asked for a definition. Now, you're pontificating about dumping and its effects without knowing what it means. So, I'll tell you: 'Dumping' is a term used in the context of international trade. It's when a country or company exports a product at a price that is lower in the foreign importing market than the price in the exporter's domestic market. Obviously, any trade deal will include anti-dumping provisions, which has somewhat pissed on your chips.
Wayne.Kerr
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That happens already as they manufacture in the UK and sell throughout the EU. It might encourage those 'giants' to relocate into the EU post-Brexit, which will suit the 27 member states and fuck up the UK's economies. The more you think about it, the more it makes sense for these things to happen post-Brexit. See what you voted for. Post-Brexit, it quite likely that Vauxhall manufacture will be located to PSA's plants in Europe and a hard Brexit could mean Ford reviewing its activities in the UK. See what you voted for but it would make more sense if you could identify where these new market opportunities are for the UK post-Brexit or is it simply that bringing back our law-making, whatever that means, is your holy grail?
The Japanese motor manufacturers will all re-locate their manufacturing to EEC countries within a few years when the next model of their range is due to be commenced imho. And Airbus will go in due course as well.
They only came here because we were in the EU and it will also be too difficult to manufacture efficiently as much larger stocks of parts, will be required.
They only came here because we were in the EU and it will also be too difficult to manufacture efficiently as much larger stocks of parts, will be required.
Wayne.Kerr
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But we'll have control of our laws.
Wayne.Kerr
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Strange how members of the ERG are saying that the 33% of PCP members, who expressed No Confidence in May, are saying she needs to take account of such a significant minority but dismiss completely the fact that 48% voted remain in the referendum.
All the worry about a no deal is manufactured by the Government to project fear and make MP's vote for May's rotten deal.
All we need to do is withdraw Article 50 and then reissue it the folllowing day. That would give an extra 2 years to sort out whether we want Brexit and in what form or whether we want to stay in the EU.
All we need to do is withdraw Article 50 and then reissue it the folllowing day. That would give an extra 2 years to sort out whether we want Brexit and in what form or whether we want to stay in the EU.
valenciagill
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The people have already decided they want out in 2016.
GRSGimmer
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Can you just imagine another 2 years of "negotiating" and still achieving nothing? Most people will have lost the will to live after the first 2 years of this farce from this pathetic Tory government.
a) People are allowed to change their minds in the light of additional information being available
b) It is most insulting to spout off stuff about 'the people'. Two million young people between the ages of 18 and 20 did not get a vote. By January it has been calculated that should those young people vote in the same way as the young people who voted in the referendum, and accounting for the largely older people who will have since died, remain will have overtaken leave even with no changes in voting intentions.
Vambogills
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Probably needs it's own thread but I have also heard ignorant Spurs fans use 'Yxx army' as a chant. Apalling and shows no empathy or understanding.
Wayne.Kerr
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All people did in 2016 was effectively vote 'yes' or 'no'. Brexit wasn't defined; so, May's deal has delivered but it's unacceptable to many leavers as is a 'no-deal' departure. When the leavers can decide what they want, then we can have a fresh referendum on whether to remain or leave on specific terms. Arthurly spelt it out exactly.
LSB2
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Leave was quite simply defined by David Cameron.
Wayne.Kerr
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NOTHING was defined; unless you can find something which determined the terms under which people would vote to leave then NOTHING was defined in terms of the process as to how we leave the EU. As I said, May's deal delivers on the referendum but it's unacceptable to many leavers; so, how do you propose the referendum is dealt with. Why not come up with a suggestion instead of sniping from the wings.
jokerman
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Okinawa
