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mao tse tung said:
No pause has been requested or granted
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Then why has no decision made? We are long past the statutory requirement, the only options are it's been accepted, rejected or both parties have agreed a temporary pause given the current circumstances and objections.

It hasn't been accepted.
It hasn't been rejected.
Therefore...
 
Calvin Plummer said:
Then why has no decision made? We are long past the statutory requirement, the only options are it's been accepted, rejected or both parties have agreed a temporary pause given the current circumstances and objections.

It hasn't been accepted.
It hasn't been rejected.
Therefore...
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No decision has been made by Rushcliffe Borough Council in my opinion because they simply cannot bring themselves to reject the objections to the scheme that have been made by certain people. The design of the appartments crucial to the funding of the project has been ammended ( at their request) and was submitted to them months ago. This new design would be completely in accordance with their wishes after consultations with them. The concerns of the Environment agency have been addressed and again ammended design work submitted to them. This is all about objections by some local residents and the unreasonable ( in my opinion) demands of the boat club. It is the job of a local authority to consider all objections to any planning application and then come to a fair and unbiassed decision. They have had 9 months to do that and thats long enough.
 
It's not likely to happen and I don't think it ever has been.

We always have a Rushcliffe council that is historically unsympathetic to even having a football club in its domains.

We have local residents sitting on property goldmines.

This lot are going to come to the same conclusions that Doughty and most previous owners have; the only solution is a whole new ground somewhere else
 
Pope John XXIII said:
It's not likely to happen and I don't think it ever has been.

We always have a Rushcliffe council that is historically unsympathetic to even having a football club in its domains.

We have local residents sitting on property goldmines.

This lot are going to come to the same conclusions that Doughty and most previous owners have; the only solution is a whole new ground somewhere else
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I tend to agree. Trent Bridge has been developed massively over the recent years but thats cricket isnt it? Quiet, respectable, middle class if you like. Rushcliffe's logo is a bit of a contradiction in terms though, " Great for Sport" but what about football?
 
Calvin Plummer said:
Then why has no decision made? We are long past the statutory requirement, the only options are it's been accepted, rejected or both parties have agreed a temporary pause given the current circumstances and objections.

It hasn't been accepted.
It hasn't been rejected.
Therefore...
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Its ongoing

The Club are still working on some aspects.

It could be that Rushcliffe would like the Stand built but are concerned about the local ramifications of giving outright approval.

They will know that the Club have the option of appealing any decision directly to Westminster; the longer this goes on the more likely it will happen.
 
mao tse tung said:
Its ongoing

The Club are still working on some aspects.

It could be that Rushcliffe would like the Stand built but are concerned about the local ramifications of giving outright approval.

They will know that the Club have the option of appealing any decision directly to Westminster; the longer this goes on the more likely it will happen.
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Possibly what they are aiming for- much easier to let london deal with a local hot potato. Shamble by rushcliffe tho, many areas would die for the opportunity of a successful football club and the money it brings to the area. Their priorities seem to be stuck in the stone age.
 
Pope John XXIII said:
Football is still all a bit too working class.
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I would love the club to take this to appeal. The current governments stance on planning restrictions would i think make RDC think poss
mao tse tung said:
Its ongoing

The Club are still working on some aspects.

It could be that Rushcliffe would like the Stand built but are concerned about the local ramifications of giving outright approval.

They will know that the Club have the option of appealing any decision directly to Westminster; the longer this goes on the more likely it will happen.
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I was just posting something similar but you beat me to it. The current government do not like planning restrictions and may just tell RDU to do one. I cant help but think that local councilors are not looking at the bigger picture in this case and need shall we say guidance on the matter. They could then blame someone else for the noise and rough people every other Saturday.
 
jbacsta said:
I would love the club to take this to appeal. The current governments stance on planning restrictions would i think make RDC think poss

I was just posting something similar but you beat me to it. The current government do not like planning restrictions and may just tell RDU to do one. I cant help but think that local councilors are not looking at the bigger picture in this case and need shall we say guidance on the matter. They could then blame someone else for the noise and rough people every other Saturday.
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I would imagine that the people running RDC are not stupid; they will be fully aware of the pro's and con's and will be very engaged with the Club.

RDC will be looking for a win win - they will want the Stand built and will want as much local consent as possible.

Once the application has been approved they will be able to turn to their constituents and claim that they managed to get this concession and that concession; concessions which would have not been forthcoming had the application been denied and then approved by Jenrick at a later date

This would be a relatively easy decision for Government to make as most of the plans have been approved conditionally; the main objections now come from the Nimby crowd who Government claim to dislike.
 
mao tse tung said:
I would imagine that the people running RDC are not stupid; they will be fully aware of the pro's and con's and will be very engaged with the Club.

RDC will be looking for a win win - they will want the Stand built and will want as much local consent as possible.

Once the application has been approved they will be able to turn to their constituents and claim that they managed to get this concession and that concession; concessions which would have not been forthcoming had the application been denied and then approved by Jenrick at a later date

This would be a relatively easy decision for Government to make as most of the plans have been approved conditionally; the main objections now come from the Nimby crowd who Government claim to dislike.
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The problem is that an appeal to the secretary of state has up untill now anyway, been a long and expensive process. Has EM the will to do it? I dont subscribe to the belief by some that he had/has no intention of delivering an upgraded stadium but after being led up the garden path by planners, local officials etc he may just decide enough is enough and end his relationship with the club and City. You couldnt blame him.
 
mao tse tung said:
Its ongoing

The Club are still working on some aspects.

It could be that Rushcliffe would like the Stand built but are concerned about the local ramifications of giving outright approval.

They will know that the Club have the option of appealing any decision directly to Westminster; the longer this goes on the more likely it will happen.
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It legally can't still be ongoing at this point, unless the two parties have reached an agreement...
 
jbacsta said:
The problem is that an appeal to the secretary of state has up untill now anyway, been a long and expensive process. Has EM the will to do it? I dont subscribe to the belief by some that he had/has no intention of delivering an upgraded stadium but after being led up the garden path by planners, local officials etc he may just decide enough is enough and end his relationship with the club and City. You couldnt blame him.
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That is the process as it stands; most of that red tape will be gone within the next 12 Months
 
jbacsta said:
The problem is that an appeal to the secretary of state has up untill now anyway, been a long and expensive process. Has EM the will to do it? I dont subscribe to the belief by some that he had/has no intention of delivering an upgraded stadium but after being led up the garden path by planners, local officials etc he may just decide enough is enough and end his relationship with the club and City. You couldnt blame him.
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Jenrick has shown himself to be amendable to pushing applications along in exchange for...
 
Calvin Plummer said:
It legally can't still be ongoing at this point, unless the two parties have reached an agreement...
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That is in incorrect assumption.

The planning process is usually limited to 8 weeks, but for large or complex builds, this can be extended to 13 weeks; however, this period can be extended way beyond 13 weeks with written consent from the applicant.
 
mao tse tung said:
That is in incorrect assumption.

The planning process is usually limited to 8 weeks, but for large or complex builds, this can be extended to 13 weeks; however, this period can be extended way beyond 13 weeks with written consent from the applicant.
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Lol how is that not an agreement between both parties...
 
mao tse tung said:
Apologies, I though you meant agreement as in accept or deny permission.
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No sorry, I probably wasn't clear. I meant that the application still exists but isn't currently being adjudicated while objections are being rebutted/considered etc. Throw in the current situation and it explains the lengthy delay.

Though I am with Pope and think a new ground would be both simpler and more beneficial to the club.
 
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