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radfordinlondon said:
No your logic is daft. How is it socialist to leave a union? Selling brexit as a socialist project lmao, i think you are still bored
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This 'union' is a capitalist club.
You are stark raving bonkers if you think the EU is a socialist project.

You need to read up what a socialist is, or call yourself something else.
 
Calvin Plummer said:
I see we are investing 500m for a 20% stake in a bankrupt company in the hopes they will provide us with a satellite as we can no longer use Europe's...
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un-fucking-believable.
This is so incredibly obviously another scandal in the making. What an absolutely colossal waste of British money, British talent, British know-how and British influence.
All because of gammon.
 
Our own £5bn project that was going to rival Galileo was shelved a while ago because it would have been a waste of money. Probably still not enough cash to do it right. Now we're putting our eggs in a basket which is apparently valued at £2.5bn even though it's more likely that it is worth nothing at all.

This move is just, frankly, ludicrous. Mainly because the goal of Galileo (which British scientists helped to design and build with British taxpayers money) was to detach ourselves from reliance on an american system. Now what are we doing?


Let's first apologise to our friends and partners, then continue with Galileo, have a working system, and "fund the NHS instead".
 
To get a deal the EU have to believe we are willing to leave without a deal. Common negotiating practice. To open dialogue with one way is a tactic. Actually investing is a long way down the road.
 
Polly 433 said:
To get a deal the EU have to believe we are willing to leave without a deal. Common negotiating practice. To open dialogue with one way is a tactic. Actually investing is a long way down the road.
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This analogy is a fallacy.

In any other walk of life, it would hold true. But by walking away you would simply be going back to the status quo; to what you had before.

I agree that when buying a new car, you probably need to be willing to walk away. But by doing so you walk away to the situation you already had, your old car, etc.

This is not the case with Brexit at all. By walking away we cannot simply maintain our status quo and EU be damned. By walking away we will in fact be going into something much worse than the status quo.

The actual equivalent is more akin to negotiating to buy a new car, but if you don't succeed in striking a bargain your old reliable 2015 Volvo gets scrapped, you are left skint and you'll have to find a £500 banger to drive around in. That'll show em'!
 
JC21 said:
If you don't understand why I'm asking Pope how many doors he knocked on then I suggest you keep out of that bit of it.

Labour did have strategy in the end and that was the catastrophic 'People's Vote'. I'd bet my life that if it was Richard Burgon and not Keir Starmer that was responsible for it then Pope would be arguing it was a terrible election strategy.
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And there was me thinking it was an open forum... If you are going to post (and post and post) such inane drivel where anyone can read it then expect it to be commented on.

By the time Labour had anything approaching a strategy it was far too late. JC was busily picking splinters out of his arse and the Tories were wondering just how they managed to luck out so well.
 
Pope John XXIII said:
This analogy is a fallacy.

In any other walk of life, it would hold true. But by walking away you would simply be going back to the status quo; to what you had before.

I agree that when buying a new car, you probably need to be willing to walk away. But by doing so you walk away to the situation you already had, your old car, etc.

This is not the case with Brexit at all. By walking away we cannot simply maintain our status quo and EU be damned. By walking away we will in fact be going into something much worse than the status quo.

The actual equivalent is more akin to negotiating to buy a new car, but if you don't succeed in striking a bargain your old reliable 2015 Volvo gets scrapped, you are left skint and you'll have to find a £500 banger to drive around in. That'll show em'!
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Well it’s a good job you are not a negotiator.
 
strettea red said:
I should have been in France last week for the celebration of a milestone birthday; but because of those damn, dirty Chinese* and their penchant for eating honey-glazed Pangolin**, I had to stay in Blighty.

*They aren't all dirty
**Yet to be proven.
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Your racism is a bit out of step in the present climate.
 
Pope John XXIII said:
This analogy is a fallacy.

In any other walk of life, it would hold true. But by walking away you would simply be going back to the status quo; to what you had before.

I agree that when buying a new car, you probably need to be willing to walk away. But by doing so you walk away to the situation you already had, your old car, etc.

This is not the case with Brexit at all. By walking away we cannot simply maintain our status quo and EU be damned. By walking away we will in fact be going into something much worse than the status quo.

The actual equivalent is more akin to negotiating to buy a new car, but if you don't succeed in striking a bargain your old reliable 2015 Volvo gets scrapped, you are left skint and you'll have to find a £500 banger to drive around in. That'll show em'!
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It's like you deliberately jumped off a perfectly seaworthy boat because you didn't like the colour of the captain's tie. Now you're in serious trouble drowning at sea and he offers to throw you a life ring. But you're insulting him, insisting that he changes his tie first, and demanding he throws you an ice cream as well, or you'll "just walk away".
After all, he apparently needs you more than you need him.
:loser:
 
Basha73 said:
And there was me thinking it was an open forum... If you are going to post (and post and post) such inane drivel where anyone can read it then expect it to be commented on.

By the time Labour had anything approaching a strategy it was far too late. JC was busily picking splinters out of his arse and the Tories were wondering just how they managed to luck out so well.
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I've got no problem with you commenting but when you're having a go at me when you don't even know the background to my comments then I'll say something back. And I'd still like to know how many doors Pope knocked on.

I'm really arguing the second point to be honest. The previous election we had a strategy which was to respect the referendum result (unfortunately many people didn't believe Labour would keep to this, and they were right). The eventual PV position came as a result of the likes of Watson, Starmer, Kinnock, Umunna, Thornberry, etc, and even McDonnell in the end constantly undermining the leader/party/position. The longer that went on the less the public believed Labour would leave the EU which led to Corbyn/Labour to basically having no choice but to back the PV.
 
JC21 said:
I've got no problem with you commenting but when you're having a go at me when you don't even know the background to my comments then I'll say something back. And I'd still like to know how many doors Pope knocked on.

I'm really arguing the second point to be honest. The previous election we had a strategy which was to respect the referendum result (unfortunately many people didn't believe Labour would keep to this, and they were right). The eventual PV position came as a result of the likes of Watson, Starmer, Kinnock, Umunna, Thornberry, etc, and even McDonnell in the end constantly undermining the leader/party/position. The longer that went on the less the public believed Labour would leave the EU which led to Corbyn/Labour to basically having no choice but to back the PV.
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I have answered this question twice. But you keep making post after post pretending I haven't.

You have had a clear, unequivocal answer. I will answer it a third time, and the answer is exactly the same as it was the first two times; I knocked on zero doors for Corbyn.
 
Pope John XXIII said:
I have answered this question twice. But you keep making post after post pretending I haven't.

You have had a clear, unequivocal answer. I will answer it a third time, and the answer is exactly the same as it was the first two times; I knocked on zero doors for Corbyn.
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LOL. Right, the "not a single door for Corbyn" was actually an answer to my question, I see that now. I thought it was in response to ME saying I hadn't knocked on a single door.
 
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