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[Strett]

But the convention of what happens when the screw up publicly is there. And has now been shattered. For all parties, not just this pound shop trump government.

Personally I think a dodgy dossier that led to an illegal war and the death of David Kelly is a tad worse than a bloke driving to Durham.

Campbell did resign, I also think Cummings should, but please don't paint Campbell in a good light and do the polar opposite with Cummings, basically because of political allegiances.

 

[mao tse tung]

Corbyn didn't change & that's one of the reasons he didn't win a general election.
Imagine Corbyn addressing the nation with un-brushed hair & being a bumbling clown.

"Imagine Corbyn addressing the nation with un-brushed hair & being a bumbling clown."

Too many people did form that image; that is one of the reasons he lost the election

 

[da fuq]

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[Strett]

What are they supposed to do when the perpetrators refuse to appear on programmes like Newsnight and be held to account?

Speaking truth to power should not be reliant on the whim of Politicians.

Refusing to provide a spokesperson should not prevent the scrutiny from taking place; if that scrutiny then appears to be one sided, they only have themselves to blame.

Maitlis should not be deterred by what happened; she is a very talented Journalist.

All agreed, no argument except it's the BBC. Paid for by you and I, who could face imprisonment for non-payment. Opinions are not allowed. Can you imagine Piers Morgan on BBC breakfast?

 

[Strett]

"Imagine Corbyn addressing the nation with un-brushed hair & being a bumbling clown."

Too many people did form that image; that is one of the reasons he lost the election

That is contradictory, because Boris did win the election looking and talking exactly like that.

 

[weejockmcplop]

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[Pope John XXIII]

Personally I think a dodgy dossier that led to an illegal war and the death of David Kelly is a tad worse than a bloke driving to Durham.

Campbell did resign, I also think Cummings should, but please don't paint Campbell in a good light and do the polar opposite with Cummings, basically because of political allegiances.

I don't think I painted Campbell in a good light at all, nor cast any opinion on him whatsoever.

The obsession with Iraq does irk me somewhat though, as if it were the worst foreign policy decision in British history.

I would say that if Iraq really gets your juices going you can't know a great deal of British history - even of the last century, let alone longer.

 

[mao tse tung]

Personally I think a dodgy dossier that led to an illegal war and the death of David Kelly is a tad worse than a bloke driving to Durham.

Campbell did resign, I also think Cummings should, but please don't paint Campbell in a good light and do the polar opposite with Cummings, basically because of political allegiances.

You have hit the nail on the head!

Campbell did resign; Cummings has not.

There are so far 44 Conservative members of the House calling for him to go; surely you are not questioning their Political allegiances?

Some of those Politicians may be calling for his head as a means of settling old scores; most of them, though, are responding to the sheer weight of complaints from their constituencies - its the Blue rinse brigade up in arms.

 

[Strett]

I don't think I painted Campbell in a good light at all, nor cast any opinion on him whatsoever.

The obsession with Iraq does irk me somewhat though, as if it were the worst foreign policy decision in British history.

I would say that if Iraq really gets your juices going you can't know a great deal of British history - even of the last century, let alone longer.

It doesn't really, I am fairly ambivalent about it, in fact for the industry I'm in it was a good time for business.

 

[mao tse tung]

That is contradictory, because Boris did win the election looking and talking exactly like that.

It was far from being the only reason

 

[Calvin Plummer]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38666914

So the BBC did analyse and agree it was inaccurate...

 

[Strett]

It was far from being the only reason

Agreed, but until the left wing realise the only reason why they took such a thumping back in December was Corbyn, then the longer the party will struggle to win back the centrists (hate that term) that defected to the Tories.

 

[Forest-England]

So you are saying that all the times Corbyn voted against the EU expansion, spoke against the capitalist agenda, and wanted to leave, he was not being truthful?

It's very hard that Labour are a broadchurch. But to me it only works being broadchurch for a labour leader on the right.

A leader who's on the left of the party. The right of the party won't accept. And its proven that the right will do all that they can to allow the tories in to power.

So that means there's very little to choose between the two main parties.
The left of Labour, mostly will get behind the right of Labour to do everything that they can to stop the Tories.

Hope that makes sense...

 

[Pope John XXIII]

It's very hard that Labour are a broadchurch. But to me it only works being broadchurch for a labour leader on the right.

A leader who's on the left of the party. The right of the party won't accept. And its proven that the right will do all that they can to allow the tories in to power.

So that means there's very little to choose between the two main parties.
The left of Labour, mostly will get behind the right of Labour to do everything that they can to stop the Tories.

Hope that makes sense...

No, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The but about "proven" is absolute nonsense

 

[Forest-England]

So the BBC did analyse and agree it was inaccurate...

The bbc trust did. But the bbc director agreed with the bbc presenter. And didn't apologise like they did regarding Newsnight.

And lets not pretend that Kuenssberg isn't a Tory.

Do you work for the bbc?

 

[Forest-England]

No, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The but about "proven" is absolute nonsense

all through Corbyn leadership he's at to fight against his own party. That is proven.

 

[Strett]

It's very hard that Labour are a broadchurch. But to me it only works being broadchurch for a labour leader on the right.

A leader who's on the left of the party. The right of the party won't accept. And its proven that the right will do all that they can to allow the tories in to power.

So that means there's very little to choose between the two main parties.
The left of Labour, mostly will get behind the right of Labour to do everything that they can to stop the Tories.

Hope that makes sense...

I used to lament the 00s in politics as it was too vanilla with all parties vying for the centre ground.
I was actually very excited when Corbyn got elected leader, as the Overton window
instantly grew, meaning a broader representation of left and right views in policy making. The downside of this was Corbyn turned out to be terrible at holding government to account.

I now long for the salad days of relative boring politics under Blair.

 

[JC21]

all through Corbyn leadership he's at to fight against his own party. That is proven.

Noam Chomsky agrees with you, even if Pope doesn't

 

[Pope John XXIII]

all through Corbyn leadership he's at to fight against his own party. That is proven.

I'm sure Theresa May would love to hear all about how tough it was for poor old Jeremy having to fight his own party

 

[Strett]

Noam Chomsky agrees with you, even if Pope doesn't

Wow, Noam Chomsky!

I have works by him, it's on the socialist part of my bookcase along with Naomi Klein, Robert Tressell and Marx & Engels.

Didn't know he was still knocking about, respect and all that.