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colavfc

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Great points CDX. Trump is famous for not exercising and having a fast food diet, but the right seem to think they can attack Biden's health with impunity.

I have to say, right wing media needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.
Just right wing news? I think left wing is just as bad.
This is why people are craving a decent news outlet. A reliable one.
YouTube videos and Twitter are not the bloody answer either.
 

mike_field

Vital Football Legend
The problem there is mate we have ones in reality. The BBC/CNN etc.

Yes they overload on news 'some' don't want to hear and we all know there are also stories they ignore, but in independent fact check studies, they always come top of the list compared to right wng ie Fox, OANN, even Sky who let more opinion and bias get in the way.

Right wing lies - perceived left wing doesn't to anywhere near a similar degree on the 'bias' scale.

And you know I'm no great BBC fan, but on the Biden topic.

Look at how some went to town when he stumbled up the steps because he was jogging. Look at equally at how they covered Trump stumbling or holding May's hand as he went down a ramp, walking up with bog role on his foot and so on and so forth - equally, how they presented it that no President had ever stumbled on the steps before other than Sleepy Joe.

By all means take the piss, but the press shouldn't rewrite history because you know yourself had Trump done that exact same thing, Fox would've been defending him on the basis he was being fit, he was jogging, he didn't want to waste anyone's time etc etc etc.

The second it's not Trump - Biden's on death's door and has problems.

Look at how they defended Trump's speech as a further example.

It's the balance and the presentation, I watch Noah, Maher, Oliver, Fallon - you can't get much more lefty really and they've all ripped into Biden for jokes.

But it's the difference between 'joke material' and then pushing an agenda which all this Biden is unwell bollocks is, an agenda with no proof, just old tired supposition repeated for effect.
 
In my experience, the left wing media distorts a little, the right wing media outright lies.

Take socialism, for example. They've made it into a dirty word, used as an insult by the right, but if you dig deeper, they don't actually understand what it is. The same with racism. It's the left that's racist, they say, by creating divisions.

Honestly, how any human being can care so little for others worries me.
 
LOL, just after I said the above, I clicked on a link to Tucker Carlson saying that the Capitol Riots on the 6th January were orchestrated by the FBI.

These crackpots seem to be able to lie with impunity, all the time inflaming a base that owns millions of guns. It's all going to blow up, literally, in the end.
 

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
Not sure why anyone would object to being checked for mental capability, if they are mentally capable. He clearly said he would be. One would hope that is the case, same as any person in public office.
 

danvilla2

Vital Football Legend
A high court in the US state of South Carolina has blocked two executions until the inmates are given the choice of death by electrocution or firing squad.
A new law requires inmates on death row to decide between the two methods if lethal drugs are not available.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57496839


Shame for them they aren’t British, where they’d get out in about 14 years ready to kill again.
 
The Biden administration is rewriting how it protects endangered species — making significant shifts in regulations that could affect how habitat is kept safe for these and other imperiled birds, fish, insects, mammals and plants across the United States.

Biden administration officials announced this month that they would revisit five key regulations in the Endangered Species Act. In doing so, they will overturn changes the Trump administration had made to narrow the scope of the law and make it easier to approve development.
 

mike_field

Vital Football Legend
In my experience, the left wing media distorts a little, the right wing media outright lies.

Take socialism, for example. They've made it into a dirty word, used as an insult by the right, but if you dig deeper, they don't actually understand what it is. The same with racism. It's the left that's racist, they say, by creating divisions.

Honestly, how any human being can care so little for others worries me.
The problem for the left is the extreme left that have appeared over the last few years ie the Momentum's of the world that are just as blinkered as the extreme right. In terms of the press the centre/left leaning outlets try and give balanced coverage which means giving them a voice (as we saw from BLM without doing their proper homework) and you add that to the likes of the Guardian publishing opinion pieces from outsiders who present it as fact and news and it seems they are taking over.

But in reality there's little difference to when the likes of the BBC were giving Griffin, Farage etc a platform and it's also why we see so much of NI, Wales, Scotland that actually isn't relevant to England because they have to be down the middle.

The problem in doing all of that is Joe Bloggs doing his 12 hours a day and wants to come home and relax puts the news on and gets a barrage of irrelevant news to their lives.

Right leaning outlets can 100% tailor to their audience at any given hour, hence Fox gets more extreme over lunch breaks and in late audience, whereas at times it can be pretty straight down the middle.

Then we get into repetition, hearing what you want, not being challenged, not getting a different viewpoint and being ranted to with the stuff that ticks your box.

They shout the loudest but they are a minority and I'd even say there's a massive difference in BBC tv coverage compared to BBC website coverage - the website needs an overhaul so you can find news, not be bombarded with 'popular' stories that do well online, but for most people is irrelevant nonsense and barely even a 'news story' to begin with.
 
I can see that giving time to people like Farage also allows dishonesty to be broadcast, but that is also amongst other points of view.

What I am talking about is outright lies, like Trump won, Biden is senile, racism is a left wing fabrication, immigrants commit more crime, climate change doesn't exist etc. etc., much of which is inflaming an already angry group of armed Americans.

I can see why Facebook and Twitter didn't want to risk being held liable for such lies.
 

mike_field

Vital Football Legend
I can see that giving time to people like Farage also allows dishonesty to be broadcast, but that is also amongst other points of view.

What I am talking about is outright lies, like Trump won, Biden is senile, racism is a left wing fabrication, immigrants commit more crime, climate change doesn't exist etc. etc., much of which is inflaming an already angry group of armed Americans.

I can see why Facebook and Twitter didn't want to risk being held liable for such lies.
No I do agree mate, it's why whatever change and improvement we make to the media in this country, we cannot follow the US model.