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CDX_EIRE said:
Yes its quite an authoritarian state, Austin is the bluest city in the freest state in the freest country. Obviously that's all a joke but this is how the Texans see themselves and America. The book banning alone tells you almost everything you need to know about the states.

I often wonder what is by design and what is just an unintended consequence. The militarization of the police is a big one. The war on terror gave the local cops big fat budgets which they struggled to spend on normal police equipment and activities. And like every company I've ever worked for they have a "use it or lose it" budget. If you want to keep getting your big fat budget you need to keep spending. The story goes the military-industrial complex started to target the cops knowing they had unspent budgets and this how we end up with small towns having APCs and weapon rooms full of m16s.

The Defund the Police crowd are on to something they just haven't packaged it right. The cops seem to respond to every call the opposite way you'd want them to as a citizen.

Re: the flags and nazism and so on, that's a whole other thing. I am not sure how to even tackle that statement but I get what you're saying. And I think the truth is there are elements of that in American society. There are a lot of American Nationalists but its white Americans and whiteness. And that is essentially Nazism, I think its simultaneously a lot of people but also not a lot. Like as a % of society its not that many but because there are 300m people its an enormously large amount of people in pure numbers.
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I often wonder if the brains behind Operation Paperclip scooped up more than the scientists.
 
BodyButter said:
I often wonder if the brains behind Operation Paperclip scooped up more than the scientists.
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You wouldn't have to there was a large Nazi rally in NYC in the 30s. Lots of Germans had already immigrated to the States by this time too so they were already concerned about discontent at home.

This stuff won't just die off, look at Germany, did everything they could to eradicate Nazism and they still have far-right lunatics in their country. The states never tried and worse, republicans encourage white supremacist policies and goade poor white people into believing they have enemies walking among them.
 
You can't kill an idea, you can only temper it with fact.

When I fully go off on one even when I'm only speaking to myself on here, I prove the point, the biggest problem now is the polarisation. At least we all have our moments but largely listen even if we disagree, way too much now features no listening because it's self involved, and you look at politics and it's 'me' or the media and it's 'make a profit'.
 
mike_field said:
You can't kill an idea, you can only temper it with fact.

When I fully go off on one even when I'm only speaking to myself on here, I prove the point, the biggest problem now is the polarisation. At least we all have our moments but largely listen even if we disagree, way too much now features no listening because it's self involved, and you look at politics and it's 'me' or the media and it's 'make a profit'.
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I think our society is mentally ill, if narcissism is a mental illness then for me racism has to be too.

Branching back to what you said, there was a scary clip online, maybe from the Daily Show. They interviewed trump candidates asking them questions about things Trump has said but they told them Biden said it. Then after they would say its actually Trump and they'd ask for their opinion. How quickly and easily they flipped from Biden being a sick man to making excuses for Trump was startling.

I'll defend sleepy Joe to the hilt when he is compared to Donald or taken out of context. However, I won't go around defending him over his response to Israel or lack thereof. Nor would I sit here and say I'd rather a demented Biden than Trump with full cognition (relative to his age).

Something is wrong, something is seriously wrong with the society we live in. Top to bottom its fucked up. I feel like 50% of the population is somewhat sane but people across all extremes are scary e.g. the highest end of the wealth spectrum, highest and lowest ends of the power spectrum. Something is wrong.
 
BodyButter said:
I see Biden is building a floating dock to unload aid to Gaza.

Why won't Joe stand up to Bibi?
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I think it’s because he agrees in spirit with the response. This is a man who voted for the war in Iraq after all. Would the Americans do anything different if another Islamist terror attack happened on its soil? Nope.
 
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America wins again. This is another reason why you can't fuck with the conservatives or Trump. This derange woman basically said, if my puppy can't learn how to be my hunting dog I should just kill him.

The South Dakota governor has come under fire after The Guardian reported on an excerpt from her new book, in which she revealed how she shot “Cricket,” her nearly 14-month-old dog.

She said she shot the wirehaired pointer on her property after taking it pheasant hunting. Noem said she “hated” the dog and claimed it was responsible for attacking a neighbor’s chickens and trying to bite her.

She also described how she shot and killed a “nasty and mean” male goat that smelled and liked to chase her children, shortly after killing the dog.

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Who is Kristi Noem?

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) was thrown into the national spotlight last week after she detailed in an upcoming book about how she shot her family’s dog. The backlash over the anecdote h…
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CDX_EIRE said:
America wins again. This is another reason why you can't fuck with the conservatives or Trump. This derange woman basically said, if my puppy can't learn how to be my hunting dog I should just kill him.

The South Dakota governor has come under fire after The Guardian reported on an excerpt from her new book, in which she revealed how she shot “Cricket,” her nearly 14-month-old dog.

She said she shot the wirehaired pointer on her property after taking it pheasant hunting. Noem said she “hated” the dog and claimed it was responsible for attacking a neighbor’s chickens and trying to bite her.

She also described how she shot and killed a “nasty and mean” male goat that smelled and liked to chase her children, shortly after killing the dog.

thehill.com

Who is Kristi Noem?

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) was thrown into the national spotlight last week after she detailed in an upcoming book about how she shot her family’s dog. The backlash over the anecdote h…
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Left or right no matter. This woman needs her karma. Disgusting.
 
I see RFK wants to slash the military budget.

I kinda like him. He seems like one of those guys who genuinely wants to make the country better.

If he does get elected (he won't), they will do him just like they did his uncle John.
 
Pangloss said:
I honestly think these people are the ones who should be shot. Animal abusers deserve to die.
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Get ready to hear lots of reasons why not shooting a 14 month old puppy because it wasn't instantly a perfect hunting dog would be "woke" because that's what's going to happen if she gets the nomination.
 
BodyButter said:
I see RFK wants to slash the military budget.

I kinda like him. He seems like one of those guys who genuinely wants to make the country better.

If he does get elected (he won't), they will do him just like they did his uncle John.
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He’s an antivaxer lunatic though
 
Choosing this thread as it’s in the US and no doubt political, I see a second Boeing Whistleblower has died this year.

Are these deaths naturals causes and this is just a coincidence, or have Boeing and/or the US government turned into Putin?

If it’s the latter, then perhaps the west isn’t so democratic and about “free speech” as we think.
 
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