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Summer transfers rumours, speculation, news

walgarthjohn

Vital 1st Team Regular
#62
I agree we need fighters and now understand your like of Jones, it must have been those mental boxing gloves he thought he was wearing while playing, there must be some reason he can't catch a cross.
Just go back and look at that. Goal keeper show against Chorley. Enough said. Jones is not the best. But the best we had. So if we need a new keeper. I think we do. Who do we keep. Out of the 2
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
#63
yes looks a good manager and as used the loan market very well. Must have some good contacts in the game. And that’s a worry for me for this up and coming season.
If you look at Blackpools signings last summer they didn't spend anything and all their free's weren't a particularly exciting set of players. Their loans were all untried kids looking to make their first appearances so I don't know if you'd have needed good contacts to get any of them.

But they obviously managed to assemble a good side, i think it's probably down to the coaching skills of the manager and his scouting / recruitment teams eye for talent.
 

Jonnysking

Vital Squad Member
#64
Of those on your original list these are the only ones I would be interested in -

Darikwa
Lee Evans
Johnston
Kyle Joseph
Will Keane
Jamie Jones (2nd choice keeper)
Chris Merrie (young lad has to be given a further chance)
Alex Perry (young lad has to be given a further chance)

The rest were barely good enough last season to hold a place in one of the shitest teams and seasons we have ever had.
We have to move forward, hopefully we can afford better than what we had last season.
 

walgarthjohn

Vital 1st Team Regular
#65
Of those on your original list these are the only ones I would be interested in -

Darikwa
Lee Evans
Johnston
Kyle Joseph
Will Keane
Jamie Jones (2nd choice keeper)
Chris Merrie (young lad has to be given a further chance)
Alex Perry (young lad has to be given a further chance)

The rest were barely good enough last season to hold a place in one of the shitest teams and seasons we have ever had.
We have to move forward, hopefully we can afford better than what we had last season.
I’m with you on that list not really keen on the full back but a good close season could help him
 

Kenny Morris

Vital Squad Member
#66
Of those on your original list these are the only ones I would be interested in -

Darikwa
Lee Evans
Johnston
Kyle Joseph
Will Keane
Jamie Jones (2nd choice keeper)
Chris Merrie (young lad has to be given a further chance)
Alex Perry (young lad has to be given a further chance)

The rest were barely good enough last season to hold a place in one of the shitest teams and seasons we have ever had.
We have to move forward, hopefully we can afford better than what we had last season.
I think some people need to get in the real world.
We had three different collections of players last season, the latter of which eventually became a team. many of them were decent players for L1 level but underperformed as a team.
We are not suddenly going to be able to recruit championship ready players straight away, many of the team we finished last season with are perfectly capable of getting us much higher in the league next season.
If we get rid of 3/4 of the team we will be in the same position where it takes months to gel and meanwhile we are losing games and in the lower end of the table, people panicking and calling the players, the manager and owners.
Let's try and keep a fair percentage of the players we have now and make some additions to fill out the squad, it will take time to recover and we need to be a bit more patient than some people appear to be now.
 

Jonnysking

Vital Squad Member
#67
I think some people need to get in the real world.
We had three different collections of players last season, the latter of which eventually became a team. many of them were decent players for L1 level but underperformed as a team.
We are not suddenly going to be able to recruit championship ready players straight away, many of the team we finished last season with are perfectly capable of getting us much higher in the league next season.
If we get rid of 3/4 of the team we will be in the same position where it takes months to gel and meanwhile we are losing games and in the lower end of the table, people panicking and calling the players, the manager and owners.
Let's try and keep a fair percentage of the players we have now and make some additions to fill out the squad, it will take time to recover and we need to be a bit more patient than some people appear to be now.
I know what you are saying Kenny but with the 5 players we already have under contract along with the eight I would retain, it doesn't equate to getting rid of 75% of the team.
I know I have only kept 50% of the players he mentioned but I think we need room for new recruits.
You can't honestly think many of those I omitted are good enough.
We are only allowed 20 odd players so if we keep all 17 on that list along with the 5 retained, 22 players leaves little room, if any for squad additions.
 

Kenny Morris

Vital Squad Member
#69
I know what you are saying Kenny but with the 5 players we already have under contract along with the eight I would retain, it doesn't equate to getting rid of 75% of the team.
I know I have only kept 50% of the players he mentioned but I think we need room for new recruits.
You can't honestly think many of those I omitted are good enough.
We are only allowed 20 odd players so if we keep all 17 on that list along with the 5 retained, 22 players leaves little room, if any for squad additions.
I'm not saying keep all of those players, we likely couldn't even if LR wanted to, but we don't need the number of changes that many seem to be advocating.
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
#70
If the squad cap stays in place that means we can have 21 players plus any under 20's as extra - Long, Asgaard, Robinson and anyone else we bring up from youth set up don't count towards the limit i believe. So we have space to retain and sign about 19 players.

I think we will probably lose Joseph and quite possibly Evans regardless, but the rest i suspect we will have a good chance of keeping if we want them. I think about 7 of our current players we certainly want to keep and i think there could be another 3 or 4 on top of that may be kept for back up.

That leaves us looking at bringing in about 9 or 10 players which will be just under half of the squad. I think it has to be that way as the players we likely wont keep aren't good enough. With the exception of left back where we are well stocked we'll probably be looking to pretty much sign a player in every position to flesh out the squad and give us competition and options. We'll probably look to use all 5 loans to try and get some talented youngsters from higher up the leagues.

With that in mind i'm guessing the squad would look something like this

Jones
Tickle maybe brought in as 3rd choice from U23s
New GK

Dariwka
New right back

Tilt if Rotherham let him leave
Johnston
Long
New centre back (2 if Rotherham keep Tilt)

Pearce
Robinson

Ojo
Gardener
Merrie
McHugh maybe promoted from U23s
2 New central mids (unless we keep Evens and then only 1)

Viv
Lang
Keane
Asgaard
2 new attacking mids / wingers

Dodoo
2 New Strikers (at least 1 a target man)
 

Mighty Bongsmon

Vital Squad Member
#71
I'm not saying keep all of those players, we likely couldn't even if LR wanted to, but we don't need the number of changes that many seem to be advocating.
I think that we do need a lot of changes as that squad isn't good enough for anything above bottom half
I guess it's down to whether the club wants a slow rebuild or try & make a quick jump out of the division.
Personally after the last 12 months a comfortable, not fighting relegation, season in the bottom half would be fine by me. If the owners want us to challenge for the top half/play offs then we'll need I think at least the amount KDZ mentions
If they want to try & jump up straight away (which I think would come way to soon & not be a good idea long term) then they'll need more still
 

Jonnysking

Vital Squad Member
#72
If the squad cap stays in place that means we can have 21 players plus any under 20's as extra - Long, Asgaard, Robinson and anyone else we bring up from youth set up don't count towards the limit i believe. So we have space to retain and sign about 19 players.

I think we will probably lose Joseph and quite possibly Evans regardless, but the rest i suspect we will have a good chance of keeping if we want them. I think about 7 of our current players we certainly want to keep and i think there could be another 3 or 4 on top of that may be kept for back up.

That leaves us looking at bringing in about 9 or 10 players which will be just under half of the squad. I think it has to be that way as the players we likely wont keep aren't good enough. With the exception of left back where we are well stocked we'll probably be looking to pretty much sign a player in every position to flesh out the squad and give us competition and options. We'll probably look to use all 5 loans to try and get some talented youngsters from higher up the leagues.

With that in mind i'm guessing the squad would look something like this

Jones
Tickle maybe brought in as 3rd choice from U23s
New GK

Dariwka
New right back

Tilt if Rotherham let him leave
Johnston
Long
New centre back (2 if Rotherham keep Tilt)

Pearce
Robinson

Ojo
Gardener
Merrie
McHugh maybe promoted from U23s
2 New central mids (unless we keep Evens and then only 1)

Viv
Lang
Keane
Asgaard
2 new attacking mids / wingers

Dodoo
2 New Strikers (at least 1 a target man)
Why does everyone rave about VSO, he is worse than Gavin Massey.
Gardener is no better than me.
Not sure about Dodoo, but he did seem to improve, maybe a short term deal.
McHugh is not ready yet.
And I hope we can covince Evans and Joseph to stay.

Other than that I have no problem with your selections and think Tilt, Oj and Johnston would be welcomed additions.
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
#73
Why does everyone rave about VSO, he is worse than Gavin Massey.
Gardener is no better than me.
Not sure about Dodoo, but he did seem to improve, maybe a short term deal.
McHugh is not ready yet.
And I hope we can covince Evans and Joseph to stay.

Other than that I have no problem with your selections and think Tilt, Oj and Johnston would be welcomed additions.
That isn't what i so much i would choose personally, more just what i guess Richardson will do based on what he's done this season. It wouldn't shock me if he kept Wooton either.
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
#74
I think that we do need a lot of changes as that squad isn't good enough for anything above bottom half
I guess it's down to whether the club wants a slow rebuild or try & make a quick jump out of the division.
Personally after the last 12 months a comfortable, not fighting relegation, season in the bottom half would be fine by me. If the owners want us to challenge for the top half/play offs then we'll need I think at least the amount KDZ mentions
If they want to try & jump up straight away (which I think would come way to soon & not be a good idea long term) then they'll need more still
In our division the quality is low, no one really has big money to spend and generally a good run can shoot you way up the table very quickly.

So i think if you have a good manager and recruitment team you wont need to do a slow rebuild towards a play off push - if you have your house in order you'll end up there right away as it's that type of division.

Just a case of how well we recruit and how good a manager Richardson turns out to be.
 

TRUE BELIEVER

Vital 1st Team Regular
#75
If the squad cap stays in place that means we can have 21 players plus any under 20's as extra - Long, Asgaard, Robinson and anyone else we bring up from youth set up don't count towards the limit i believe. So we have space to retain and sign about 19 players.

I think we will probably lose Joseph and quite possibly Evans regardless, but the rest i suspect we will have a good chance of keeping if we want them. I think about 7 of our current players we certainly want to keep and i think there could be another 3 or 4 on top of that may be kept for back up.

That leaves us looking at bringing in about 9 or 10 players which will be just under half of the squad. I think it has to be that way as the players we likely wont keep aren't good enough. With the exception of left back where we are well stocked we'll probably be looking to pretty much sign a player in every position to flesh out the squad and give us competition and options. We'll probably look to use all 5 loans to try and get some talented youngsters from higher up the leagues.

With that in mind i'm guessing the squad would look something like this

Jones
Tickle maybe brought in as 3rd choice from U23s
New GK

Dariwka
New right back

Tilt if Rotherham let him leave
Johnston
Long
New centre back (2 if Rotherham keep Tilt)

Pearce
Robinson

Ojo
Gardener
Merrie
McHugh maybe promoted from U23s
2 New central mids (unless we keep Evens and then only 1)

Viv
Lang
Keane
Asgaard
2 new attacking mids / wingers

Dodoo
2 New Strikers (at least 1 a target man)
What about Evans in the GK section.

With the addition you suggest that would be four keepers in the squad.

Surely Jones, Evans and Tickle would be sufficient.
 

Dudestalker

Vital Reserves Team
#76
What about Evans in the GK section.

With the addition you suggest that would be four keepers in the squad.

Surely Jones, Evans and Tickle would be sufficient.
Is KDZ not implying that Evans gets released and the new keeper will come in as either No.1 or No.2

Which I would fully agree with, my preference being the new keeper as an upgrade on Jones. As for Evans, it seems pretty obvious that LR doesn't fancy him, otherwise, I reckon he would have got more game time.
 

king_dezeeuw06

Vital Football Hero
#77
What about Evans in the GK section.

With the addition you suggest that would be four keepers in the squad.

Surely Jones, Evans and Tickle would be sufficient.
I didn't include Evans in the list as i think he will be released - Jones struggled this season but Evans couldn't get ahead of him and on the couple of occasions Jones wasn't available Evans really didn't impress.

He's 24 now so not a young kid still learning the ropes - if we didn't have enough faith to put him in the side for a run this season i don't think we ever will.
 

C_Latic

Vital 1st Team Regular
#78
I think some people need to get in the real world.
We had three different collections of players last season, the latter of which eventually became a team. many of them were decent players for L1 level but underperformed as a team.
We are not suddenly going to be able to recruit championship ready players straight away, many of the team we finished last season with are perfectly capable of getting us much higher in the league next season.
If we get rid of 3/4 of the team we will be in the same position where it takes months to gel and meanwhile we are losing games and in the lower end of the table, people panicking and calling the players, the manager and owners.
Let's try and keep a fair percentage of the players we have now and make some additions to fill out the squad, it will take time to recover and we need to be a bit more patient than some people appear to be now.
Thankfully, our new owners don't seem to be the type willing to settle for 20th place next season so your pleas will hopefully fall on deaf ears.

We ripped the squad up the last two times we were in this division not in administration and did just fine. We will do just fine again this time even if we start slowly. Six loan spots to fill, four-five free transfers, sign up a few of the better players last season and before you know it, we'll have a much better squad.
 

walgarthjohn

Vital 1st Team Regular
#79
Thankfully, our new owners don't seem to be the type willing to settle for 20th place next season so your pleas will hopefully fall on deaf ears.

We ripped the squad up the last two times we were in this division not in administration and did just fine. We will do just fine again this time even if we start slowly. Six loan spots to fill, four-five free transfers, sign up a few of the better players last season and before you know it, we'll have a much better squad.
Correct most teams at this lever rebuild most seasons
 

Kenny Morris

Vital Squad Member
#80
Thankfully, our new owners don't seem to be the type willing to settle for 20th place next season so your pleas will hopefully fall on deaf ears.

We ripped the squad up the last two times we were in this division not in administration and did just fine. We will do just fine again this time even if we start slowly. Six loan spots to fill, four-five free transfers, sign up a few of the better players last season and before you know it, we'll have a much better squad.
We did rip the squad apart and look how some of the the supporters reacted when we struggled in the first few months of the season.
Stupid to do that if it’s not necessary.
And no, i’m not advocating finishing 20th, just the opposite. We need a good start to the season and not to become stuck in the bottom few again whilst the team gel. We do need more players but not as many as some are saying we do.