SwindonLatic
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We could have a whole team of them!Or you could bring in any number of well paid "player coaches" to avoid breaking the cap as they don't count - a la Derby with Rooney
We could have a whole team of them!Or you could bring in any number of well paid "player coaches" to avoid breaking the cap as they don't count - a la Derby with Rooney
Or you could bring in any number of well paid "player coaches" to avoid breaking the cap as they don't count - a la Derby with Rooney
How is that moaning?Never a good word for anyone have you?
Serial moaner or what
How about trying to be a little less combative and a bit more respectful to people who know a lot more than you do about certain things and who are actually in a position and trying to do something positive.
Some one posted. Before. We all laughed at Dave Whelan saying he would take us to promised land. Yes we did. But in them days. There was no wage cap most of the signings were record signings. For us. So any one thinking we’re are on the up again if this frampton chap gets us is dreaming. Lenagan will be more than happy. Having a rugby fan buying us
I would love to see full disclosure of incomings
I'm not authority Arthur, but I think you're spot on.I'll tell you want the incomings don't include, match streaming monies that some fans misguidedly think in some way benefits the admins, despite pleas from the SC and JJ for fans to buy these - and merchandise from the club shop - as this is THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE that the club can generate.
Someone more informed please correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the Admins will get paid (essentially) by Au Yeung, not WAFC.
Once all the sales are done, and the outstanding creditors paid off, the Admin will take their exorbitant fees and give the remaining balance to Au Yeung. The more the admins spend, the less Au Yeung gets.
Is this incorrect ?
I'm not authority Arthur, but I think you're spot on.
Point taken ......... but that's not so much "generating revenue" as "doing whatever you have to do to survive"... and I'll qualify my assertion slightly as the other way that WAFC can (be forced) to generate some revenue is to sell players like Kyle Joseph, because we don't have enough money coming in from other revenue streams to cover running costs.
Point taken ......... but that's not so much "generating revenue" as "doing whatever you have to do to survive".
Selling a youngster in a couple of years, when we're not in these strange uncertain times, and when we'd (hopefully) get a decent fee for him, is a legitimate strategy. Having to release a prospect prematurely just to pay the bills is galling.
Once all the sales are done, and the outstanding creditors paid off, the Admin will take their exorbitant fees and give the remaining balance to Au Yeung. The more the admins spend, the less Au Yeung gets.
Is this incorrect ?
Then I'm misguided but stubbornly and consistently putting money at the disposal of the admins on principle.I'll tell you want the incomings don't include, match streaming monies that some fans misguidedly think in some way benefits the admins, despite pleas from the SC and JJ for fans to buy these - and merchandise from the club shop - as this is THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE that the club can generate.
Someone more informed please correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the Admins will get paid (essentially) by Au Yeung, not WAFC.
Once all the sales are done, and the outstanding creditors paid off, the Admin will take their exorbitant fees and give the remaining balance to Au Yeung. The more the admins spend, the less Au Yeung gets.
Is this incorrect ?
The only way Au Yeung would see a penny from the admin sell off would be if he hadn't written off what was owed to him as a creditor. It's not that any profit left from the sale after paying creditors & admin goes to him coz the creditors aren't getting paid in full anyway
That's as I understand it - although I could be completely wrong
Then I'm misguided but stubbornly and consistently putting money at the disposal of the admins on principle.
Bit rich to guilt trip on the basis of needing further fan support to keep the club going.
Suggest your ammo should be lobbed at the admins here as if they had not sold everything not nailed down for a pittance we would be in a positive cash position right now not scrabbling around down the back of the sofa for coppers
Fully respect your position Arthur though I don't agree with it.You are correct Hampton, it was a deliberate guilt trip attempt, In the past I've disagreed with your reasoning, but respected your decision and that sat fine with me .... up until Jays interview with the SC and JJ.
They clearly requested that fans take up the match passes to help the club survive.
From here on in every time we are forced to sell a player just to pay bills I am going to lay some blame at the door of all the fans who continue to choose not to spend their money on match streaming passes for any reason other than affordability. The biggest culprits IMO are those who watch the illegal streams, but I also lay some blame at the feet of fans who had initial good or principled intentions but have since heard the pleas to buy match passes and still choose to ignore them.
I wish we could get the uptake figures for the Rochdale game to see if anyone has actually bothered to take on board the comments from JJ, I'd certainly respect you all the more Hampton if you said "up until now I've stood by my principles but having heard the request from JJ and the club I've now decided to help in this one small way and urge everyone else to do the same".
I'll tell you want the incomings don't include, match streaming monies that some fans misguidedly think in some way benefits the admins, despite pleas from the SC and JJ for fans to buy these - and merchandise from the club shop - as this is THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE that the club can generate.
Someone more informed please correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that the Admins will get paid (essentially) by Au Yeung, not WAFC.
Once all the sales are done, and the outstanding creditors paid off, the Admin will take their exorbitant fees and give the remaining balance to Au Yeung. The more the admins spend, the less Au Yeung gets.
Is this incorrect ?
Fully respect your position Arthur though I don't agree with it.
Not in the illegal streaming pot and it's been really tough not to watch games - except Chorley !.
It's all well and good the SC and JJ coming out and making statements on this and if they were running the day to day fair do's but having donated significantly to the appeal there is only so many times you can go to the well. An appeal whilst well intentioned is being put to no good use right now - understand it's original concept but it's dead money - why don't the SC for example offer funds to the admins as a loan to support running costs on the basis of no player sales for example ?
Alternatively if the admins were to come out and state no more player sales if streaming reaches a certain level or indeed merchandise sales then that could change my mind.
Otherwise it's not for me as given track record and results delivered so far the admins will continue to act with impunity not in anyone's best interest but their own and disregard the welfare of both the club the fans.
John, given these rugby fan ‘bogey man’ sentiments, isn’t it worth remembering that prior to his involvement with Latics, Dave Whelan was on the board at Wigan Rugby .....and prior to turning his attention to building the JJB .......his first choice was to redevelop Central Park as a joint home for Rugby and Latics.
I know this to be true because I not only remember the concept at the time but I also heard him address an audience at Wigan Cricket Club regarding his involvement in trying to ‘save’ Central Park.
After that meeting at WCC I collared him on the car park and asked him one to one what he thought would transpire and he told me he intended to redevelop Central Park into a 20,000 all seater stadium....and if they didn’t let him (I believe ‘they’ were the resistant Rugby board) then he would build his own ground .....which he did.
Edit ; So we didn’t do too bad under the direction of that particular ‘rugby fan’ did we ?.....Despite him eventually inviting Maurice f*****g Lindsay on to the Latics board ....now THAT was a slap in the face .....(not that it ever even crossed my mind to take my ball home and boycott matches.)