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#COVID19

Calvin Plummer said:
Lots of people drown
Everyone learns to swim
Number who drown fall significantly
Nut nuts now claim the fear of drowning was overstated and we can all actually breathe under water
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Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it.
Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the other monkeys with cold water.

After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.

Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana. Why not? Because as far as they that's what you do.
 
Interesting report regarding flu and COVID...

...The death rate from COVID-19 in Europe appears to be linked to low-intensity flu seasons in the past two years as the same people are vulnerable...

..."a significant negative correlation between lower flu intensity and higher death rates from coronavirus – showing that more COVID-19 deaths have occurred where there have been fewer flu deaths the past two seasons."

...In the UK, for example, there are about 20,000 excess deaths from influenza in a typical year according to Public Health England, however, there were only about 1,700 excess flu deaths in 2018-2019 and there is anecdotal and statistical evidence that the 2019-2020 flu season was also very mild in the UK, the paper says.

“This implies that there were over 30,000 people alive in the UK at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic who would have been expected to die in the previous two flu seasons. These people are likely to have been predominantly elderly and in poor health,” says the working paper, entitled “COVID-19 death rate is higher in European countries with a low flu intensity since 2018”.

https://www.jbs.cam.ac.uk/insight/2020/flu-and-coronavirus/
 
While the infection rate is as high as it is, my personal thoughts are that it’s likely to get worse again, particularly with winter on its way. There are fears that we could be back in full lockdown by October if it hits as hard as some suspect.
 
Basha73 said:
While the infection rate is as high as it is, my personal thoughts are that it’s likely to get worse again, particularly with winter on its way. There are fears that we could be back in full lockdown by October if it hits as hard as some suspect.
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The infection rate is low. The UK has an average of 20/100,000 population. This compared to Spain at 132. We also have the only negative cumulative death rate compared to all the EU/EEA (-7.3/100,000 population).

That sort of news never makes it onto here though.
 
strettea red said:
The infection rate is low. The UK has an average of 20/100,000 population. This compared to Spain at 132. We also have the only negative cumulative death rate compared to all the EU/EEA (-7.3/100,000 population).

That sort of news never makes it onto here though.
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Maybe not but the threat of lockdown is increasing and that decision won’t be taken lightly or without at least some evidence that there are grounds...
 
strettea red said:
The infection rate is low. The UK has an average of 20/100,000 population. This compared to Spain at 132. We also have the only negative cumulative death rate compared to all the EU/EEA (-7.3/100,000 population).

That sort of news never makes it onto here though.
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The increased rates in Spain, Crotia, France are primairly due to the relaxation of restrictions to accomodate holidaymakers. I suspeect that once the lobster red Brits return from their travels the UK rate will increase accordingly.
 
strettea red said:
Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it.
Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the other monkeys with cold water.

After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.

Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana. Why not? Because as far as they that's what you do.
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Human nature does take a bit of beating.
 
Bremen Tree said:
The increased rates in Spain, Crotia, France are primairly due to the relaxation of restrictions to accomodate holidaymakers. I suspeect that once the lobster red Brits return from their travels the UK rate will increase accordingly.
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The new cases in Spain are mostly in Madrid; a distant second is Aragon then the Basque. These are not really British tourist hotpots.
 
strettea red said:
The new cases in Spain are mostly in Madrid; a distant second is Aragon then the Basque. These are not really British tourist hotpots.
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But tourist destinations none the less, so there is a chance of an infection coming back to blighty. I still epxect a UK increase come the end of the holiday period.
 
strettea red said:
Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it.
Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the other monkeys with cold water.

After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.

Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana. Why not? Because as far as they that's what you do.
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That's an awful lot of monkeys. Just when do you think they will finish writing the complete works of Shakespeare, chap?
 
strettea red said:
Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it.
Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the other monkeys with cold water.

After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.

Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana. Why not? Because as far as they that's what you do.
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Where's this from mate?
 
strettea red said:
Agreements with the following countries and trading blocs will take effect when the UK leaves the EU:

Andean countries
CARIFORUM trade bloc
Central America
Chile
Eastern and Southern Africa (ESA) trade bloc
Faroe Islands
Georgia
Iceland and Norway
Israel
Jordan
Kosovo
Lebanon
Liechtenstein
Morocco
Pacific states
Palestinian Authority (That'll please a few)
Southern Africa Customs Union and Mozambique (SACUM) trade bloc
South Korea
Switzerland
Tunisia

Mutual recognition agreements:

(A mutual recognition agreement is one in which countries recognise one another’s conformity assessments. When conformity assessments are applied to products, they are tested to an established performance standard. Inspections, quality management, surveillance, accreditation and declarations of conformity also take place.)

Australia, New Zealand and United States have signed mutual recognition agreements.

Discussions with Japan on a UK-Japan MRA are ongoing. The UK and Japan have signed an exchange of letters designed to ensure the continuity of existing arrangements as a temporary measure.
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That makes me feel much better that we are trading in the largest and richest internal market in the world for an MRA with that list of nobodies.

Out of interest stretts- what % of global trade does that motely crew add up to?

5%
 
strettea red said:
It's OK. There was no comment from me about their value, just that they had been signed/negotiated.
That is a different topic which will be best covered later, but there are encouraging noises coming out of Brussels today and I am confident, in spite of how thunderingly disappointing Boris has been, that we will come away with a deal.
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Getting a deal is not the issue is it!

Its about the quality of the deal. May got a shit deal. Boris is making what looks to be a shit deal.

Britain had a good deal...
 
strettea red said:
Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it.
Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the other monkeys with cold water.

After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.

Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana. Why not? Because as far as they that's what you do.
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Sounds to me like someone needs an ethics class in social reseach.
 
Old Red Fart said:
The UK must be getting our share of the Flu, it's just been confirmed that our count is 10% of last years total. Don't know where the other 90% has gone. I wonder whether the wearing of masks for Covid has any bearing on it?
Serious question.
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The flu cases now probably are COVID or are just being reported as COVID.
 
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