GillsBluenose
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As I recall I was comparing our dismal record on deaths with the rest of Europe (EU or not) as comparable countries. I was not saying we had a high death rate because we left the EU. We had a terrible record because of our appalling "leadership". Persistent failure to lockdown early enough on at least 3 occasions being perhaps the clearest example. These things were nothing to do with being in/out of the EU.
Johnson loudly and repeatedly claimed Brexit as a saviour due to the vaccine programme which I have already pointed out could have been conducted in or out of the EU. Approval of the vaccine came through before we had left. The purchase and rolling out of the vaccine (thanks NHS) is the one thing that went well but it looks as if even that advantage has been blown thanks to the general incompetence of this Government. I'd have preferred Thatcher to the bullshitting clown we've got.
So you are taking the jaundiced view that the failure to lockdown early enough, was against the best advice from the experts in the NHS, and was an arbitary decision of the government, then? How exactly do you know that?
The only dissenting voice on government policy to come from the NHS experts has been from that guy that got suspended for breaking lockdown to knob a married colleague and he clearly has an axe to grind.
As far as I can tell, Johnson has only said that leaving the EU and making an independent decision on vaccine purchase outside the EU has helped, and even Von der Leyen agreed with that, with her reference to the number of states in the EU making the ability to reach a speedy decision like having turn round a tanker.