Ever heard of a "flash in the pan"?
It's funny you say that, because Roberto Martinez did exactly this at Swansea. Walked out of his playing club at the time and retired effective immediately to take the Swansea City job in L1. Despite having zero managerial experience, he had them playing tika taka like Pep's Barcelona and won the league in his first full season. Thus "the Swansea way" was born and has been a model stuck with by the club to this day when it comes to appointing managers.
So it can definitely be done.
Trouble with T&C is he rolls and gets off on The Easybeats of clickbait and controversial postsI've heard of '"flash down the pan"......where the majority of your inane posts need to go
Agreed.
In football having more naturally gifted players obviously helps greatly - but a good manager can certainly get great things out of bang average players if they can succesfully implement a good method of play and motivate their players.
When you watch the top teams the moments of individual brilliance often gets the attention and you can't replicate that but many of the attributes of successful sides at all levels end up quite similar and those you can replicate.
I think if someone like Klopp or Guardiola somehow ended up working in L1 on a shoe string they'd immediately introduce a lot of the ideas they currently use in terms of their approach to pressing, fitness, movement, organisation and shape. While it obviously wouldn't be to the same standard as they produced with better players and the transition may take a little time for players to adapt - I believe they'd end up with a team that had the same basic methodology / mechanics and it would be succesful.
I think that the game often looks at the quality of player as being more important than the quality of coaching when it is often the other way round.
I tend to disagree simply on the amount of managers who have started in management at high levels early on in their careers and had some success, yet in their later years move to lower league clubs and fail because they try to make inferior players play to a similar style to the ones they had at their peak.
I seriously doubt that Guardiola could get the players we had last season playing a similar style to the way city play. It would take an immense effort to get them fit enough and instil the knowledge and tactics to make them understand the system. Managers have styles and systems that they play to and find it hard to adapt and therefore I have no doubt that if Guardiola were to find himself in charge of a L1 club he would still want to play to his beliefs.
I am not saying that either Klopp, Guardiola or even Mourinho are not good coaches, I am simply saying that you can only polish a turd so much.
I believe that by trying to get the players to play to the higher standard a coach like Guardiola would be frustrated and lose faith, he would also be competing against managers and coaches familiar with the standard who would set up their players to play destructive football and further frustrate him.
I think the example of coach dropping levels and struggling to work with less talented players is more a sign of a poor coach rather than a good coach being let down by his players. With any early success more likely being down to having players good enough to compensate for their limited coaching ability (a bit like Caldwell).
I think Klopp and Guardiola would be successful at any club as they are that good they'd get the best out of what they had and improve the players individually.
The reality of being in administration laid bare.
'In pre-season, we had lads leaving for medicals halfway through a game. I don't know how the information was getting through but they'd come off at half-time and say they had to be in Manchester for a medical and couldn't play the second half.
How do you plan and build with things like that going on ?
Not a good idea to speculate. Some innocent ex-players will be wrongly accused for nothing.Wonder which player that was - anyone got any suggestions?
I don't think anyone's thinking of blaming the players NZFC.Not a good idea to speculate. Some innocent ex-players will be wrongly accused for nothing.
KDZ was asking for suggestions hence my reply. Mud sticks & all that.....I don't think anyone's thinking of blaming the players NZFC.
They had to look after themselves in those circumstances ... and it was probably initiated by (or at least agreed with) the Admins anyway.
The fact admin sold the training ground but didn't even agree a few days grace to move out in an orderly fashion I think sums up their negotiating skills.
Not a good idea to speculate. Some innocent ex-players will be wrongly accused for nothing.
Wonder which player that was - anyone got any suggestions?
Because this is a discussion board and they'd be many speculations and also speculations about players only performing to get noticed to get away from a "sinking ship" etc.Why would be blame the player for admin agreeing to sell them at half time in a game?
Because this is a discussion board and they'd be many speculations and also speculations about players only performing to get noticed to get away from a "sinking ship" etc.
I have seen players being criticised unfairly/discussed disparagingly on here with no solid facts to back them up and people then take them as truth if repeated too many times. Hence mud sticks etc....