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i am a tree said:
It is for them to decide who to investigate in the first place, and considering they are run by a former tory contractor, have removed people who wanted to investigate tories, and had secret tory donors as commissioners, there's reason to suspect that they aren't entirely politically independent.
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Be that as it may, it was Labour who engaged the EHRC to carry out the report.

If there was such widespread bias, I would have thought it better for the Conservatives if the anti semitism row was prolonged; that would have been easily achieved by framing an ambiguous and inconclusive finding.

It would certainly have taken the wind out of Starmer's sails.
 
strettea red said:
Bacofoil* is in short supply at the moment. I was thinking it was to do with Christmas approaching.

*Other baking metallic sheets are available for fashioning into hats.
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Don't be silly, this is all established fact.

mao tse tung said:
Be that as it may, it was Labour who engaged the EHRC to carry out the report.

If there was such widespread bias, I would have thought it better for the Conservatives if the anti semitism row was prolonged; that would have been easily achieved by framing an ambiguous and inconclusive finding.

It would certainly have taken the wind out of Starmer's sails.
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I'm not suggesting the investigation into Corbyn or any other investigation they have done was because of their tory connections, its what they haven't done in regards to tory racism that is politically motivated.
 
Pope John XXIII said:
Exactly the same as treatments for childhood cancer, which I read recently have barely moved forward from the 1970s in some cases because they are too rare to make it profitable to put research in.

On top of that, some of these vaccines are expensive. The new American vaccine is $60 per double dose, which will put it out of reach of much of the planet.

Short of huge investment by national governments, I'm not sure what the answer is. I suppose it would make sense to be part of some large bloc that could pool it's scientific resources and share the investment and cost. Some kind of union of near neighbours....
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Neighbours, eh?...

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-in-crisis-over-hungary-poland-budget-hold-up/
 
strettea red said:
I must be a socialist at heart as I'm thinking why couldn't this drive and determination have been put into vaccines for malaria and the like, which are prevalent in countries where mortality doesn't seem as important.
I've probably answered my own question there.
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Pope John XXIII said:
Exactly the same as treatments for childhood cancer, which I read recently have barely moved forward from the 1970s in some cases because they are too rare to make it profitable to put research in.

On top of that, some of these vaccines are expensive. The new American vaccine is $60 per double dose, which will put it out of reach of much of the planet.

Short of huge investment by national governments, I'm not sure what the answer is. I suppose it would make sense to be part of some large bloc that could pool it's scientific resources and share the investment and cost. Some kind of union of near neighbours....
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It isn't always about government indifference and big pharma chasing the big buck. (Often, but not always.) SARS-CoV2 and Malaria are very different beasts.

There has been a huge amount of political will and expenditure to try to reduce the harm done by malaria through programmes of all kinds: house nets, bed nets, education programmes, cleaning up mosquito breeding pools, insecticides, surveillance/monitoring, discrimination of species, acoustic deterrents, acoustic mating disruptors, olfactory deterrents, preventative medicines, treatment medicines, release of sterile males, release of males with other types of genetic modifications that are lethal to their young, and probably many more efforts that I cannot think of off the top of my head. It's hard. There are vaccines but they haven't worked very well to date because of the nature of malaria - maybe the latest will turn the tide.


Why it is hard:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736123/

Optimism about malaria in general:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...~:text=The new vaccine has been,$700m (£552m).

Optimism about how the new mRNA methods (that are being trialed for pretty much the first time to prevent Covid19) will be absolutely revolutionary and democratise vaccines for many different diseases. Lightning fast and super cheap:
https://de.reuters.com/article/us-h...ould-help-defeat-other-diseases-idINKBN27W2PJ
 
mao tse tung said:
It appears major weaknesses are quite prevalent today!

Your whole argument appears to have been blown out of the water by non other than Jeremy Corbyn.

“The publication of the EHRC report should have been a moment for the Labour party to come together in a determination to address the shortcomings of the past and work as one to root out antisemitism in our own ranks and wider society,” he said.

“To be clear, concerns about antisemitism are neither “exaggerated” nor “overstated”. The point I wished to make was that the vast majority of Labour party members were and remain committed antiracists deeply opposed to antisemitism.”

There you go!

Those are the very latest words from the man himself:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ur-antisemitism-concerns-were-not-exaggerated
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Phew, I'm glad that's all cleared up once and for all and we can stop talking about it.
 
in_the_top_one said:
It isn't always about government indifference and big pharma chasing the big buck. (Often, but not always.) SARS-CoV2 and Malaria are very different beasts.

There has been a huge amount of political will and expenditure to try to reduce the harm done by malaria through programmes of all kinds: house nets, bed nets, education programmes, cleaning up mosquito breeding pools, insecticides, surveillance/monitoring, discrimination of species, acoustic deterrents, acoustic mating disruptors, olfactory deterrents, preventative medicines, treatment medicines, release of sterile males, release of males with other types of genetic modifications that are lethal to their young, and probably many more efforts that I cannot think of off the top of my head. It's hard. There are vaccines but they haven't worked very well to date because of the nature of malaria - maybe the latest will turn the tide.


Why it is hard:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736123/

Optimism about malaria in general:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190522-how-the-malaria-vaccine-could-change-world-health#:~:text=The new vaccine has been,$700m (£552m).

Optimism about how the new mRNA methods (that are being trialed for pretty much the first time to prevent Covid19) will be absolutely revolutionary and democratise vaccines for many different diseases. Lightning fast and super cheap:
https://de.reuters.com/article/us-h...ould-help-defeat-other-diseases-idINKBN27W2PJ
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SHit shit shit. How could I forget the frickin' laser beams??
 
in_the_top_one said:
SHit shit shit. How could I forget the frickin' laser beams??
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I dont suppose you have any tips for getting laser beams through Airport Security do you?

Its just that I am due to go back to Slovakia shortly and I would like to avoid being eaten alive by the fucking irritable little bastards like on my last trip.
 
The right-wing press and Facebook has done to our parents generation what they said video games would do to us.
 
Calvin Plummer said:
Interestingly or worryingly depending on your perspective the damage done by Corbyn and co to trust in minority groups isn't exclusive to Jews:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ers-do-not-trust-party-to-tackle-islamophobia

There have been similar criticisms from the black community too.

Starmer has a very difficult task on his hands regaining that trust and uniting so many disparate groups.
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Here we go again! This is a society issue. The media have a lot to answer for. You only have to look at the headlines over the last few years.
But you go ahead and blame Corbyn and co. If it makes you happy.
 
Calvin Plummer said:
Interestingly or worryingly depending on your perspective the damage done by Corbyn and co to trust in minority groups isn't exclusive to Jews:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ers-do-not-trust-party-to-tackle-islamophobia

There have been similar criticisms from the black community too.

Starmer has a very difficult task on his hands regaining that trust and uniting so many disparate groups.
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Totally agree he's got a difficult task if he's saying things like this

https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/03/labo...e-place-black-people-who-vote-now-2-12933468/
 
mao tse tung said:
It appears major weaknesses are quite prevalent today!

Your whole argument appears to have been blown out of the water by non other than Jeremy Corbyn.

“The publication of the EHRC report should have been a moment for the Labour party to come together in a determination to address the shortcomings of the past and work as one to root out antisemitism in our own ranks and wider society,” he said.

“To be clear, concerns about antisemitism are neither “exaggerated” nor “overstated”. The point I wished to make was that the vast majority of Labour party members were and remain committed antiracists deeply opposed to antisemitism.”

There you go!

Those are the very latest words from the man himself:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ur-antisemitism-concerns-were-not-exaggerated
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My usual immaculate timing...

...as JC decides it's not worth fighting any longer. The bullies and liars have won.

Left wing sites criticise him for being defensive about a non-issue, claiming that relentless Zionists just see that as a sign of weakness and redouble their attacks. Looks like they're right:

'Marie van der Zyl, president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, said the party should not accept the statement made by Corbyn, calling it a “pathetic non-apology” from the former Labour leader.'

(from the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ur-antisemitism-concerns-were-not-exaggerated)
 
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