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Why? And who told you that?
Weight Training Thread
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Why? And who told you that?
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
BodyButter... I always struggle with a massive appetite (ask Meyouldy, I had half his meal up in Liverpool and was still hungry!)
However I do find a few things help and certainly practicised what I've preached through the latest diet (not actually a diet, I've adjusted my eating patterns so it is a lifestyle thing, not something that has to be started and stopped)
In the morning I drink a full glass of cold water with a full lemon squeezed in. Then a full glass with some sour cherry juice (holland and barrett, or in my case as I have an account with them, Lamberts) + a fennel and nettle tea.
That gets me hydrated.
Then I have a protein shake + I take a couple of tablespoons of 'Good Oil' (available from Sainsbury, I'm sure others do it as well)
http://www.goodwebsite.co.uk/
I have plenty of snacks available but good snacks, so a few apples etc... + cold meat, beef/ham/chicken slices. If I want something sweet (ish) I have a pandor licorice stick (holland and barrett/Sainsbury)
Also have smoked kippers (boneless) to snack on for the good oil benefits... or are they mackerel, I forget now!
Also yeo valley or sainsbury organic probiotic yoghurt
With the apple or yoghurt, I add ginger + also heap on some cinnamon. The ginger is good for muscle aches + also fires up the metabolism apparently. The cinnamon helps the metabolism but is also said to smooth out the blood sugar spikes and help appetite. End of the day, they do no harm and are tasty so nothing to lose anyway.
I also put paprika and cayenne pepper on some of my meat snacks as they help fire things up... as do chilli's / chill powder
Just discovered flahavans quick porridge oats (nice easy and lazy way to have a snack of porridge... 44p per pot, just mix in a bit of milk and/or water)
Protein powders I find great to curb the appetite as well, I mix with soya milk as I tend to keep my dairy intake low.
I avoid white processed break/rice etc as that just makes me hungrier. Brown rice is a pain to get nice and fluffly but the Uncle Ben microwave brown rice is perfect.
As others say, plenty of fluid to keep hydrated - sometimes the body isn't actually hungry, it just wants fluid, have a drink, wait 30 mins, if still hungry, then eat.
Also concentrate on what you are eating, how much you are eating and if you really need any more / second helping etc. If we are distracted watching tv etc we eat twice as much without stopping and thinking.
Don't forget to attack the fat with the cardio steff recommended ie interval training, 30 seconds at full flow, 30 seconds at a lower level then back to full flow etc. Killer but it works. I also do a routine on my stationary bike now where I go from 1 up to gear 20, then down to 3, back up and down etc. I do 1 minute of each up and down, sometimes 30 seconds. Killer but again, it works.
+ also some stomach exercises to pull the muscles in.
Oh and chew slowly to give your mind time enough to realise it is full !
Another I've started doing is after a meal I chew some sugerless gum, then an hour or two later another. Only read this tip recently and it claims it helps curb the desire for snacking. Seems to be working actually.
Think I'll post this in the weight loss thread as well as the diet side is appropriate there.
However I do find a few things help and certainly practicised what I've preached through the latest diet (not actually a diet, I've adjusted my eating patterns so it is a lifestyle thing, not something that has to be started and stopped)
In the morning I drink a full glass of cold water with a full lemon squeezed in. Then a full glass with some sour cherry juice (holland and barrett, or in my case as I have an account with them, Lamberts) + a fennel and nettle tea.
That gets me hydrated.
Then I have a protein shake + I take a couple of tablespoons of 'Good Oil' (available from Sainsbury, I'm sure others do it as well)
http://www.goodwebsite.co.uk/
I have plenty of snacks available but good snacks, so a few apples etc... + cold meat, beef/ham/chicken slices. If I want something sweet (ish) I have a pandor licorice stick (holland and barrett/Sainsbury)
Also have smoked kippers (boneless) to snack on for the good oil benefits... or are they mackerel, I forget now!
Also yeo valley or sainsbury organic probiotic yoghurt
With the apple or yoghurt, I add ginger + also heap on some cinnamon. The ginger is good for muscle aches + also fires up the metabolism apparently. The cinnamon helps the metabolism but is also said to smooth out the blood sugar spikes and help appetite. End of the day, they do no harm and are tasty so nothing to lose anyway.
I also put paprika and cayenne pepper on some of my meat snacks as they help fire things up... as do chilli's / chill powder
Just discovered flahavans quick porridge oats (nice easy and lazy way to have a snack of porridge... 44p per pot, just mix in a bit of milk and/or water)
Protein powders I find great to curb the appetite as well, I mix with soya milk as I tend to keep my dairy intake low.
I avoid white processed break/rice etc as that just makes me hungrier. Brown rice is a pain to get nice and fluffly but the Uncle Ben microwave brown rice is perfect.
As others say, plenty of fluid to keep hydrated - sometimes the body isn't actually hungry, it just wants fluid, have a drink, wait 30 mins, if still hungry, then eat.
Also concentrate on what you are eating, how much you are eating and if you really need any more / second helping etc. If we are distracted watching tv etc we eat twice as much without stopping and thinking.
Don't forget to attack the fat with the cardio steff recommended ie interval training, 30 seconds at full flow, 30 seconds at a lower level then back to full flow etc. Killer but it works. I also do a routine on my stationary bike now where I go from 1 up to gear 20, then down to 3, back up and down etc. I do 1 minute of each up and down, sometimes 30 seconds. Killer but again, it works.
+ also some stomach exercises to pull the muscles in.
Oh and chew slowly to give your mind time enough to realise it is full !
Another I've started doing is after a meal I chew some sugerless gum, then an hour or two later another. Only read this tip recently and it claims it helps curb the desire for snacking. Seems to be working actually.
Think I'll post this in the weight loss thread as well as the diet side is appropriate there.
BodyButter
Vital Football Legend
Cheers Steff and Fear. Your advice is very much appreciated.
danvilla2
I’m not an expert
Sorry Steff, I and others shouldn't comment on your specialist subject :14:
I go to the gym to stay fit and toned, I'd get no satisfaction from looking like Arnie as I wouldn't be able to run. But when you watch a lot of people at gyms, they pile the weight on - say on a chest press, and you end taking the weight on other areas of the body. Take a simple bicep curl resting your elbow on the inside of your thigh, if one is doing 30kg but only extending down to a horizontal level they'd be better off going down to 25kg, and extending near vertically... IMO of course.
And you see so many people go to the gym and straight to the weights with no cardio warm up, at least get the heart pumping a bit even if it is just a 10 minute jog or cycle... or do you disagree s_t_v???
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If you give training advice in a thread that is specifically asking my advice, than you should ensure you know what you are talking about, because I will be all over it, would you expect anything else from a 'specialist'?
So stop watching idiots! It's a basic that exercises should be performed through a full range of motion.
Partial reps which carry too much weight for a full range of motion, do have their place in a short bodyshock system, but should only be carried out by experienced trainers.
Warm up, train, cool down, stretch, why are you asking if I agree with basics? Again, ignore the idiots!
Can you explain your basis for this statement
"a lot of people load the weight on, but your better off going dodwn 5-10 kgs and pausing twice during the rep of whatever your doing rather than getting into a rythm"
I get the fact that the first part is due to you watching idiots or advanced trainers, but what's with the pause twice rather than getting into a rhythm?
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Tricep kickback
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But keep the torso squarer to the bench and keep the elbow raised higher than the young lady has, only the forearm moves!
Also
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[youtube=v/IuFEAtgBbiU]
But keep the torso squarer to the bench and keep the elbow raised higher than the young lady has, only the forearm moves!
Also
[youtube=v/y8FfgGwxa3U]
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That top video is impressive Steff, all you need is her at your gym and you'll have the guys flocking in :14:
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We have one young lady of similar proportions, an underwear model, it's terrible! No one is concentrating on their workouts, all they can do is stand there and dribble, in all fairness I can't blame them and she is a complete and utter flirt, but it does mean we have to vax the carpet dry.
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And did they say what that routine is supposed to accomplish?
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Is this more from that highly amusing comic mens health, by any chance?
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
no mate, muscle and fitness. Must admit it is the worst one I've ever read. I used to love (before the brain explosion) testing out the different routines but never in a month of sundays this one. They suggest 1 exercise per body part... 10 reps - 10 sets (60 secs rest between)
No no no! That would just hurt and over train... even I can remember that from when I was a fit young lad... ah those were the days!
No no no! That would just hurt and over train... even I can remember that from when I was a fit young lad... ah those were the days!
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That's a steroid workout Mr Fear, obviously they can not label it as such.
I have had many arguments with all of those publications due to clients coming in and saying why are we doing X when this says to do Y?
If they were to tell the truth, the magazine would have printed all of the relevant information quite easily within 1 year and that's padding it out!
I have had many arguments with all of those publications due to clients coming in and saying why are we doing X when this says to do Y?
If they were to tell the truth, the magazine would have printed all of the relevant information quite easily within 1 year and that's padding it out!
The Real Neil
Vital Football Legend
Are you suggesting Muscle and Fitness feature people who may have had a helping hand?!
Or does a simple work-out allow any 60-year-old to look like this?
[img=http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp7pjvQkoO1qzoafno1_500.jpg]
Or does a simple work-out allow any 60-year-old to look like this?
[img=http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp7pjvQkoO1qzoafno1_500.jpg]
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A simple work out! Far from it Neill, That man has worked his arse off to get that physique, I can state with certainty that the gentleman has partaken of chemical assistance, by which I mean multiple steroid AND Human Growth Hormone cycles.
His diet would have been a killer, and what many do not realise, is that to gain quality muscle with chemicals, the training is much much harder than a 'clean' athletes body could possibly cope with, and that is a fact.
You do get many chemical users who do not train enough, ignore diets etc, and they bloat up, look big, but are water carriers, within a month or two of the end of a cycle, they will have lost most of their muscle gains
Mr McMahon has certainly paid the price in pain and time to look like that, that is dedication +, and at his age, I have to admire his commitment.
BodyButter
Vital Football Legend
