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Boszi, just listened to your CIA agent and can't quite make up my mind whether he's very extreme or maybe round the bend. Either that or perhaps my brain has gone off the boil. Some of what he says makes sense although nothing really new but he has a strange way of suggesting ways to change the system bordering on civil revolution. It's never going to happen while most of us are at least partly satisfied with life. Isn't that the general nature of things?
I flipped through the rest of that video and this fellow wasn't the only one with extreme ideas so in general I wasn't greatly impressed.

It did help to make my mind up that nothing has greatly changed in my lifetime. Did confirm though that I'm really one of the lucky ones in life.

I suspect that most of the other posters on here are in the same boat.

 
Someone needs to do a surgical strike on his tanning bed. Take away the tanning bed and you take away his power :102: :159:
 
Old Red Fart - 1/2/2017 05:54

Did confirm though that I'm really one of the lucky ones in life.

I suspect that most of the other posters on here are in the same boat.

Thing is ORF, a lot of folk are not so lucky as you and in the same boat, far from it, take those poor saps in Haiti on 30 cents an hour more than likely producing the very shirt on your back.

In order to stave of starvation they are being robbed of their land and exploited by the likes of the Clinton Foundation in order for the them (Clintons) and the owners of the likes of Target, Gap and Wal-Mart…can generate vast profits.

<img src="http://images.dailykos.com/images/251040/large/ClintonCaracol.jpg?1463194466" alt="Mountain View" style="width:204px;height:328px;">

2012. Opening of Caracol Sweatshop. Workers, mostly young women, paid $.31 an hour after Sec. Clinton and her allies force Haiti to lower wages from $.65 an hour. 


<img src="http://images.dailykos.com/images/251046/large/Housing.jpg?1463198130" alt="Mountain View" style="width:204px;height:328px;">
Caracol sweatshop housing, gets kinda hot in those cement boxes.


No, unlike you, they dont have …

-a living wage;
--overtime and severance pay;
--the right to organize;
--protection from sexual aggression by supervisors;
--physically safe working conditions;
--coverage of medical costs in the event of work-related injury or illness;
--at least one break a day, plus the time necessary to eat lunch and go to the bathroom;
--provision of drinking water and decent bathrooms; and
--protection from arbitrary or retaliatory firing. socialistworker.org/…

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/13/1526345/-The-Hillary-Clinton-Building-Haitian-Sweatshops-Slavery


This is not to say there aint no slave labour in the US, far from it …..

In 2014, the imprisonment rate for African American women (109 per 100,000) was more than  twice the rate of imprisonment for white women (53 per 100,000). (FACT SHEET: INCARCERATED WOMEN AND GIRLS — The Sentencing project)

“All told, nearly a million prisoners are now making office furniture, working in call centers, fabricating body armor, taking hotel reservations, working in slaughterhouses, or manufacturing textiles, shoes, and clothing, while getting paid somewhere between 93 cents and $4.73 per day.” wocinsolidarity.tumblr.com/… 

"The Hillary Clinton Building… Chevron, Bank of America, AT&T, and Walmart, to mention some,  all take advantage of US Prison labor as other corporations exploit Haitian labor. All the same donate big money to the Clintons."
 
The above are, IMO, several of many reasons why the present system is shit and reasons I cannot stand idly by without voicing my concerns and putting forward a need for change.
 
The film below explains how Clintons system works.

Basically they install their people as dictactors in Third World countries who in turn grant exclusive rights to valuble mineral resources of that country to their close friends in the US business world.

The Clintons are rewarded for their efforts by donations to the Clinton Foundation and paid speeches, usually around $500,000,a go.

Mind you, they may not be carrying out the scam for much longer....

BREAKING: TRUMP JUST ORDERED GOWDY AND CHAFFETZ BACK ON CLINTON CASE TO “GO AFTER EVERYTHING”


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Appears a political chess game ongoing at the moment...

This piece bz The Saker suggestions things could get interesting...

A “Color Revolution” Is Under Way in the United States

The bottom line is this: President Trump is in immense danger of being overthrown and his only hope for survival is to strike back hard and fast.

However, I am now beginning to think that this might not be enough. Trump has a much more powerful weapon he can unleash against the Neocon: 9/11.

9/11 was a collective crime par excellence. A few men actually executed it, but then thousands, possibly tens of thousands, have used their position to execute the cover-up and to prevent any real investigation. They are ALL guilty of obstruction of justice. By opening a new investigation into 911, but one run by the Justice Department and NOT by Congress, Trump could literally place a “political handgun” next to the head of each politician and threaten to pull the trigger if he does not immediately give up on trying to overthrow Trump.

I fully understand that danger of what I am suggesting as any use of the “9/11 weapon” will, of course, result in an immense counter-attack by the Neocons and the deep state. But here is the deal: the latter are already dead set in impeaching, overthrowing or murdering Donald Trump. And, as Putin once said in an interview, “if you know that a fight is inevitable, then strike first!”.

You think that all is this over the top? Consider what is at stake.

First, at the very least, the Trump Presidency itself: the Neocons and the US deep state will not let Trump implement his campaign promises and program. Instead they will sabotage, ridicule and misrepresent everything he does, even if this is a big success.

Second, it appears that Congress now has the pretext to open several different congressional investigations into Donald Trump. If that is the case, it will be easy for Congress to blackmail Trump and constantly threaten him with political retaliation if he does not “get with the program”.

http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-color-revolution-is-under-way-in-the-united-states/



 
Here's link, for those interested, to a full texted sourced book giving an insight into system in place behind the facade of everyday politics.

GOVERNMENT OF THE SHADOWS

Parapolitics and Criminal Sovereignty

The human mind in its day-by-day operations cannot bear to look the truth
of politics straight in the face. It must disguise, distort, belittle and embellish
the truth - the more so, the more the individual is actively involved in the
process of politics, and particularly in those of international politics. For
only by deceiving himself about the nature of politics and the role he plays
on the political scene is man able to live contentedly as a political animal
with himself and his fellow men.

Hans W. Morgenthau, Politics A@@@@ Nations


INTELLECTUAL ROOTS

The intellectual roots of parapolitics as a field of investigation lie, on the one hand, in the deep conservative-liberal suspicion of government that is especially prevalent in the United States and, on the other hand, in the European anarchist tradition of hostility to the state as an instinctively oppressive institution. A distinctive feature of parapolitics, however, is its identification of clandestinity as a state attribute.

Clandestinity is, of course, as old as politics, but until the 1960s it was generally assumed to be the preserve of forces opposed to the state order - rebels, revolutionaries and criminals. The distinctive view of parapolitics was that clandestine activity by state institutions and by institutions linked to the ruling elite played a major role in sustaining illiberal and anti-democratic features of the system.

read more...

https://archive.org/details/pdfy-NGH3JN1XdVae36t7



 
You right ORF, it has been going on for a quite a while, the more you look into it.

The Mafia, CIA and Bush Senior - Pete Brewton, Author, Journalist (1992) Part 1 of 2

Former reporter for the "Houston Chronicle," Pete Brewton tells of one of the
most momentous stories of the past 50 years and how it has been suppressed by the establishment media and the Congress. Pete's book "The Mafia, CIA and George Bush*," shows the incredible complexity of the relationships in the operation of the destruction of hundreds of Savings and Loans at the hands of the CIA and the Mafia, stealing many billions of dollars in the process, and leaving the taxpayers to bailout the banks.

Big names at the state and national levels of power are involved, including Lloyd Bentsen, the Bush family, and power brokers in Houston. People such as Kenneth Keating and Don Dixon, who are mentioned prominently in the press in connection with the S & L debacle, were merely front men or "cutouts" for the main movers. Keatingand his ilk only took millions; the CIA and the Mafia looted billions.

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Yep, going back a little further in time you find that the father of President Bush and his banking friends secretly funded the Nazi partz and help bring them to power.

“Bush – Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” – Federal Documents

We bring to the attention of Global Research readers this important article on the links of the Bush famuily to Nazi Germany, first published in the The New Hampshire Gazette in November 2003.

While this relationship has been amply documented by official US government records (see the book by Webster Tarpley), the authors point in their article to newly discovered US government documents, which suggest that the relationship continued until 1951, nine years after the assets of Prescott Bush were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1942.

After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen “enemy national” relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal.

Furthermore, the records show that Bush and his colleagues routinely attempted to conceal their activities from government investigators.

Bush’s partners in the secret web of Thyssen-controlled ventures included former New York Governor W. Averell Harriman and his younger brother, E. Roland Harriman. Their quarter-century of Nazi financial transactions, from 1924-1951, were conducted by the New York private banking firm, Brown Brothers Harriman.

The White House did not return phone calls seeking comment.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/bush-nazi-dealings-continued-until-1951-federal-documents/1176
 
Boszi, I'm in the North of Thailand at the moment for two weeks and am having a hell of a job computing. Haven't been able to access your assorted posts in detail. I tend to agree with you on most of it I think and I've seen enough of the world and the people in it and also lived long enough to have learned the basics to understand when I'm well off.

As for most of the rest of the underpriviledged, and there's an awful lot of them, I'm totally sympathetic but can't actually see a solution. Wish I could.

I'll be trying to keep in touch but there are doubts.
 
Here you go ORF, a more detailed historic account to how and why the Americans financed the the Nazi party.

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Old Red Fart - 3/2/2017 10:12

As for most of the rest of the underpriviledged, and there's an awful lot of them, I'm totally sympathetic but can't actually see a solution.

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This fella seemed to be ahead of the curve in regards solutions......

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Old Red Fart - 3/2/2017 10:12



Boszi, I'm in the North of Thailand at the moment for two weeks and am having a hell of a job computing. Haven't been able to access your assorted posts in detail.

ORF, You may also have missed Trump stating that the U.S. isn't so innocent and has killers too.

This was no off the cuff remark by any means, It was calculated.

I mentioned earlier there's a game going on at the moment.

Central to that game is Haiti, child trafficking / @@@@@philia and the Clintons.

Yesterday it was reported...

'PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (AFP) — Police in Haiti over the weekend rescued dozens of women and girls on the verge of being sold, and placed 12 suspected human traffickers under arrest, authorities said. '

'"Last week, we received information that young girls were being sold for 300 dollars each," said Leger, who holds a post equivalent to government prosecutor. '

'"We found 33 girls, 20 of them minors, piled together in one room," Danton Leger, government commissioner for Port-au-Prince, told local radio.


"NEW YORK CITY, New York, USA (sentinel.ht) – The Clinton Foundation announced, Saturday, that it was cutting its programs in Haiti, spinning them into separate entities according to news reports.

Because the foundation’s announcement came just a day, a day and a half, at most, of a Haitian police anti-child-trafficking raid which led to the rescue of 31 girls, minors, on Sunday, it has spurred conversation a@@@@ internet sleuths, leery of the Clintons and the U.S. political establishment. It is from these sources the Haiti Sentinel was made aware of the foundation’s developments not previously reported by our news agency. However, The Sentinel has no reason to believe the two events are inherently linked."


 
i think 9-11 has to be the most amazing thing I have experienced, the Trump and Brexit things pale into insignificance. Not just the act alone but the fact that literally millions of apparently rational people think that they just fell down like that. I truly have never had the words to explain..

I was in and out of the states at that time, i actually came to Spain directly from America, I was actually based in Washington itself and was straight down the pentagon around the kerfuffle. Couldnt have seen a better stage set at the NEC
 
Marco Polo - 31/1/2017 10:20

he wont last 12 months - he's completely incompetent to be President.

Nice one brexiters - you created world chaos. Protests on the streets, the violence will start soon enough I expect. Clueless to what you've started.

In reality we the remainers created it ourselves in many ways. (we not being me on every single point.)

we all agree that theres been inequality and shit jobs if any and its similar now to how it was in the 80's and we mainly agree that the standard of education is much lower and peoples actual learning ability is also being affected by the modern world. so if we have far more less educated people than highly educated (education can be so many things from different sources) voting on important issues how can we be surprised 'whatever' the outcome?

in many ways it's an intelligence divide as much as an economical one and there is correlation between those two things like it or not.

The middle and higher classes never really want the masses intelligent or healthy but this dble edged sword has throughout history led to chaotic revolt.

no intelligent rational person could vote trump if they are serious about what is required to be in that role. period.

at the same time most rational people would have had a hard time voting for Clinton too.

To abstain or vote independently was a wasted vote,

There were no winners, just losers, or rather, just MORE losers
 
paz1967 - 7/2/2017 17:26

i think 9-11 has to be the most amazing thing I have experienced, the Trump and Brexit things pale into insignificance. Not just the act alone but the fact that literally millions of apparently rational people think that they just fell down like that. I truly have never had the words to explain..

I was in and out of the states at that time, i actually came to Spain directly from America, I was actually based in Washington itself and was straight down the pentagon around the kerfuffle. Couldnt have seen a better stage set at the NEC

I think many rational people are coming around to this scam and others, with the aid of information from the likes of wikileaks and whistleblowers coming forward.

People begining to piece the jigsaw together..

How the perpetrators behind these events control politicians to keep supporting these fradulent events.

But the tide appears to be turning if events on described this video are carried out then again they maybe being set up for promoting false news.


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"I believe President Trump is committed to tackling THE most difficult of problem of them all – THE problem at the core of how crooked politicians are controlled – through pedophilia."





 
Looks like another scam and its perpetrators are being put in the spotlight if this guy's right, along with crooked politicians and pedo's, he wants Trump to 'drain the swamp' of crooked scientists.

Brand new elite whistleblower smashes global warming science Feb 6
by Jon Rappoport

Recently, a key scientific study was published, and this study bolsters the whole idea that global warming is on the rise. But a key expert insider will show that this study was false and a fraud and a lie, and the people who wrote it are guilty of deceiving you and me and everyone. Find these people guilty, once and for all, and send them to prison, where they belong…”

I could try this case in court. You could try this case in court. Three guys in a bar could try this case. And win.

Are you ready, Mr. Trump?

Send out the hounds from the Department of Justice and put these liars under arrest.

And let’s see their trial in open court, every minute of it, on camera, on television, online.

Let’s see it in New York and Chicago and Los Angeles and Toronto and London and Paris and Rome and Kabul and Tehran and Sydney and Tokyo and Rio and Durban and Nuuk and Tierra del Fuego…

At long last, put official science and its enablers in the dock.


https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/02/06/brand-new-elite-whistleblower-smashes-global-warming-science/



Edit....

to add....

The basis of the mans claims above in regards crooked scientists came from the Mail on Sunday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html

It now transpires that the ....

'Daily Mail Banned As ‘Reliable Source’ On Wikipedia In Unprecedented Move'

The decision was made by the site’s community.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/daily-mail-banned-from-wikipedia_uk_589c3e13e4b07685621810f8







 
Another whisleblower exposing stuff....


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Certainly looks like a lot of folk are now becoming aware of the true state of things and are wanting acion by the look of the comments section.

For example

Sara M 3 days

I think we need to continue to keep ourselves informed and speak out against the shadow government. I've been doing my own research and have found out that the Clinton Foundation is also implicated in child sex rings. I'm hoping that the FBI will do their part and arrest everyone involved in that pedophile ring. There are connections between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein (convicted pedo) of the infamous Lolita Express. Bill has flown to Epstein's orgy island over 20 times. There are also ties between the Clintons and Laura Silsby who was caught trafficking children from Haiti. The Clintons bailed her and fellow traffickers out of jail. Hmmm... a little suspicious? Check out the Podesta emails also and possible code words for child pornography. Lots of stuff out there.. and where there's smoke there is usually fire.?
 
Certainly a lot of research going on out there ...

This concerns court case before the Supreme Court of New York that documented a sworn statement of complaint under the penalty of perjury which stated in part that....


45 - By manufacturing the scandal aimed at incriminating Mr. Stern, Defendants Burkle, [Frank] Renzi, [Mike] Sitrick, and the Clintons hoped to divert and intimidate journalists who might attempt to report on their illegal activity or publish embarrassing revelations of Burkle and Bill Clinton's sexual misconduct, including Clinton's extramarital affairs facilitated by Burkle, and sexual activity with minors, and even more importantly dissuade negative coverage of the numerous scandals that have been attributed and which will undoubtedly be uncovered about Hillary Clinton as she runs for the presidency in 2008.


No such perjury charges were ever brought, and both FBI and US Attorney's Office investigations against Jared Paul Stern would be dropped

http://pizzagate.wiki/images/6/65/Jared_complaint_2007.pdf

And here's link to Epstein's flight log showing Clinton, Burkle and other 'celebs' flying to Epsteins 'rape island'

https://www.scribd.com/document/261420719/Jeffrey-Epstein-Flight-Logs-in-PDF-format

One commentator states....

"These leaks are going to change the way you perceive reality.
Yes, celebrities are part of the pedophilia ring, and so are the CEOs of many gigantic corporations that create the products we use on a daily basis.
This is "too big to boycott". This is literally going to reveal that the establishment live by a totally different set of rules than we do."


 
Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, his relationship with Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew and other famous names, and their connection to a high-level sex scandal is exposed by Conchita and Cristina Sarnoff. We also look at slavery and human sex trafficking in the modern world, and more, in this uncensored Buzzsaw interview, hosted by Sean Stone

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The BBC appears to be getting on the case...

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-38829249

2017. febr. 9.

reallygraceful

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One commentator states ...

Mike Smith 11 hours

"Don't worry about the BBC, they have just shot themselves in the foot by giving you publicity! People will see the truth...?"