I have just read" Inbrief"re pro footballers contracts, and it sounds as if we would have great difficulty terminating his contract, whatever he does.
That probably explains why Flabby is stillwith us. Interesting read, sorry dont know how too link.
The Ross McCormack Thread
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That probably explains why Flabby is stillwith us. Interesting read, sorry dont know how too link.
david-avfc
Vital Football Hero
I think I remember reading that now actually
But, he’s still playing for them in most or all of their games and everything I’ve read suggests they are keen to keep him on, so they can’t be too bothered about his attitude.
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
Another pie and a pint probably.
BodyButter
Vital Football Legend
He's a terrible signing. We should try to cut our losses.
We don't need players like that.
We don't need players like that.
villasince67
Vital Football Hero
Smacks of desperation ..... no chance of any incoming up front , er I know we got that bloke down under. No thanks. If he proves me wrong then so be it.
JuanPabloAngel
Alert Team
If you copy the address of the website from the address bar (highlight, right click, copy) and then paste (right click, paste)into a comment, that should do.
Sorry, not meaning to be patronising - not sure how much you don't know! :14:
BodyButter
Vital Football Legend
Exactly! No outsiders required.
Seriously though, he has caused trouble everywhere he's been. We just don't need that stuff.
He scores goals but he is unprofessional and corrosive.
gmvillan
The Shackles Are Off!
Let's just look at it from a purely footballing standpoint and ignore the discipline issues for a minute...
If you look at his goalscoring record then it stacks up statistically. However, when you remove free-kicks and penalties it's decidedly average. Given that we have Snodgrass and Hourihane that take a good free-kick I can't see him getting many chances from dead ball situations.
Positionally he's what we might call a "tweener." He doesn't have the vision or the guile of a true "number 10" and neither the size and/or pace of a number 9. He's not going to get in-behind/off the shoulder with pace, and he certainly won't be holding off defenders and bringing others into the game with his back-to-goal.
In a 4-3-3 he'd be useless in a wide position (and would probably sulk) and beyond useless as a centre-forward.
In a 4-4-2 (or 4-4-1-1 if you prefer) he MIGHT do a job playing behind the main striker, but would he be a better option than Grealish, (or Onomah, Hourihane, Lansbury)? And would he work back and chase down opponents (something that Mr Grealish has been doing very well recently and hey presto his performances have improved)
In a 4-2-3-1 see above.
In a 3-5-2, maybe as the second striker, but let's face it, 3-5-2 hasn't worked for us since Sir Brian used it to extend the career of God. And would any manager change their system that drastically for Ross McCormack?
I think the most damning indictment of him overall as a footballer is that he hasn't been able to get a sniff of a squad place for a poor Scotland team.
In my opinion he was a bad buy for the club. It's almost like we looked at the previous season's scoring charts and said "we'll have him" with no thought to whether he is a truly productive player in a proper team.
So, there you have it, my very non-biased football analysis of Ross McCormack! :3: :6: :8:
If you look at his goalscoring record then it stacks up statistically. However, when you remove free-kicks and penalties it's decidedly average. Given that we have Snodgrass and Hourihane that take a good free-kick I can't see him getting many chances from dead ball situations.
Positionally he's what we might call a "tweener." He doesn't have the vision or the guile of a true "number 10" and neither the size and/or pace of a number 9. He's not going to get in-behind/off the shoulder with pace, and he certainly won't be holding off defenders and bringing others into the game with his back-to-goal.
In a 4-3-3 he'd be useless in a wide position (and would probably sulk) and beyond useless as a centre-forward.
In a 4-4-2 (or 4-4-1-1 if you prefer) he MIGHT do a job playing behind the main striker, but would he be a better option than Grealish, (or Onomah, Hourihane, Lansbury)? And would he work back and chase down opponents (something that Mr Grealish has been doing very well recently and hey presto his performances have improved)
In a 4-2-3-1 see above.
In a 3-5-2, maybe as the second striker, but let's face it, 3-5-2 hasn't worked for us since Sir Brian used it to extend the career of God. And would any manager change their system that drastically for Ross McCormack?
I think the most damning indictment of him overall as a footballer is that he hasn't been able to get a sniff of a squad place for a poor Scotland team.
In my opinion he was a bad buy for the club. It's almost like we looked at the previous season's scoring charts and said "we'll have him" with no thought to whether he is a truly productive player in a proper team.
So, there you have it, my very non-biased football analysis of Ross McCormack! :3: :6: :8:
JuanPabloAngel
Alert Team
Merged in to Ross thread
Picklefactory
Vital Youth Team
I'm not sure everyone is answering the same question. The question raised was 'Would you give him a chance?' not do you think he was a good buy or do you think he can achieve anything if he were given a chance.
Some of the above posts highlight the possibilities of whether he has the ability to actually be of any benefit, which may well be perfectly valid. But for me, I would trust the manager to make that decision. I would rather the fans gave him the chance and backed the judgement of the manager, who is best placed to see if he was performing well in training, attitude corrected etc, and then being able to judge if he was offering anything worth using. That is a whole different question, but with such a dearth of striking options just now, I'd rather Bruce at least had the opportunity to make a choice on another striker rather than no choice.
Some of the above posts highlight the possibilities of whether he has the ability to actually be of any benefit, which may well be perfectly valid. But for me, I would trust the manager to make that decision. I would rather the fans gave him the chance and backed the judgement of the manager, who is best placed to see if he was performing well in training, attitude corrected etc, and then being able to judge if he was offering anything worth using. That is a whole different question, but with such a dearth of striking options just now, I'd rather Bruce at least had the opportunity to make a choice on another striker rather than no choice.
McParlandTheGreat
Vital Champions League
McCormack was our leading scorer under RDM. OK, only 2 goals out of 7. But something.
The arguments about whether he could fit into our system can also be applied to Hogan, who at the moment is flourishing. McCormack knows where he needs to be, and if given the ball knows where to place it.
The arguments about whether he could fit into our system can also be applied to Hogan, who at the moment is flourishing. McCormack knows where he needs to be, and if given the ball knows where to place it.
JuanPabloAngel
Alert Team
Unless it's training :59:
gmvillan on why Ross McCormack was not a good buy for Aston Villa.
<br><br><a href ="http://www.vitalfootball.co.uk/router.asp?7524164">Click here to read the article</a><br><br>
<br><br><a href ="http://www.vitalfootball.co.uk/router.asp?7524164">Click here to read the article</a><br><br>
david-avfc
Vital Football Hero
Not necessarily disagreeing - there’s no doubt he was a panic buy - but could you elaborate on the point about his goal scoring record excluding free kicks and penalties?
In the 3 seasons before we signed him he was averaging over 23 goals a season so if his record from open play is only average he must have scored a hell of a lot of penalties or free kicks
Silhillvilla
Vital Football Legend
We can't afford to just write off £12m , can we ??
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
Has the useless waster gone yet?
