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wittonite said:
Starmer isn't going to say anything. He's working on the principle that he can get into no10 by keeping his trap shut.
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Again, I understand it, but I hate that approach.

I can't be alone in not having a problem with what I disagree with him on, I want to know what he truly stands for.

I get funded/unfunded promises because finance changes but give me what you'll do if you can - trust me to judge then compared to other options.
 
Thomas Holte said:
This dying Tory party is devoid of any new worthwhile polices. Therefore, if Labour said what they are going to do then the Tories would try to steal it just like they did with the Non-dom policy, although I'm sure Rishi & Co will find other ways to get around that in order to protect the millions they have personally hidden away.
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That's the thing though, stealing policy through desperation IS a campaign point.

Labour should be campaigning 'the Tories kept non-dom because it suited their donors and Rishi's wife, the second we said it would be scrapped to fund X,Y,Z Sunak folded like the small chair he is and all we heard was how would we fund now that money wasn't available - has anyone asked what they are now spending it on?

Take the ground, don't play defence on where you now get the money, ask where that money now goes - could it be paying legal bills and libel losses for example?

Lab are shit at this. Even worse than my explanation lol
 
kefkat said:
So as another 5 die in the channel including a small child, the hypocrisy of the government continues.

The UK government has, under pressure finally had to reveal the cost of sending a refugee to Rwanda.

£1.8 million per person. For that same cost of ONE individual an entire refugee processing centre could be built and staffed in France solving the boats problem overnight.

Hey why would you do that when you can use cheap shots and score points off another person misery, all for headlines and an extra few votes
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i think you are blaming the wrong country there , try europe or france, these people are marching through the french towns carrying boats down to the beaches others are going in coaches, provided by the french..macron is taking the pee, he is cleansing the immigrants in france before the olympics, absolutely shocking,

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seanie ward said:
i think you are blaming the wrong country there , try europe or france, these people are marching through the french towns carrying boats down to the beaches others are going in coaches, provided by the french..macron is taking the pee, he is cleansing the immigrants in france before the olympics, absolutely shocking,
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
Kia Starmer has now announced he will re-nationalise the railways in 5 years.
Good luck with that one, how long does he think it will be dragged through the courts?

This is one of those statements that is meaningless, if he wants to nationalise something do Water, Electricity things that will benefit the people of the country.
Both need massive Investment which the government will have to stump up so the shareholders can still take billions out of the industry.
How nice for the investment in the water industry so we dont have water shortages and turds floating down our local rivers.
 
Thomas Holte said:
It's all a distraction by a desperate government more interested in saving the Tory party rather than having the best interests of the United Kingdom and a ploy to whitewash over all the failures of this washed up Tory party hence they employ the classic Tory populist divide-and-rule policy to distract the public from their incompetence.

The fact that all these lies they spout are also supported by the British Tory right wing newspaper press like the Daily Heil, Express and Sun etc is also something people shouldn't forget.

It's playing right into Labours hands, and yet they are not fully capitalising on the Tory lies, corruption and deceit, and it's about time Starmer & Co came off the fence and fully attacked the Tory party to show them for what they are.
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Amen.
 
seanie ward said:
i think you are blaming the wrong country there , try europe or france, these people are marching through the french towns carrying boats down to the beaches others are going in coaches, provided by the french..macron is taking the pee, he is cleansing the immigrants in france before the olympics, absolutely shocking,
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Got any links to this massive news? Any facts to back it up. Absolute hogwash.
 
The Fear said:
Got any links to this massive news? Any facts to back it up. Absolute hogwash.
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didnt you watch the news last nite ,carrying dinghies through the towns to the beaches,if thats not bad enough, macron is supplying coaches for them, macron as been ethnic cleansing in paris for months, preparing for the olympics and he dont give a toss,,,seanie
 
seanie ward said:
didnt you watch the news last nite ,carrying dinghies through the towns to the beaches,if thats not bad enough, macron is supplying coaches for them, macron as been ethnic cleansing in paris for months, preparing for the olympics and he dont give a toss,,,seanie
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Never change Seanie, never change.
 
seanie ward said:
i think you are blaming the wrong country there , try europe or france, these people are marching through the french towns carrying boats down to the beaches others are going in coaches, provided by the french..macron is taking the pee, he is cleansing the immigrants in france before the olympics, absolutely shocking,

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I don't know what the link is as it showing nothing.

Erm these people aren't. They certainly aren't marching. They are worn out and tired. They don't march down with boats either.

The boats are hired at scandalous prices.

I am not blaming the wrong country either as I am not blaming this country.

I am putting the responsibility for this right where it lies with this vile Tory in name only party
 
seanie ward said:
didnt you watch the news last nite ,carrying dinghies through the towns to the beaches,if thats not bad enough, macron is supplying coaches for them, macron as been ethnic cleansing in paris for months, preparing for the olympics and he dont give a toss,,,seanie
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 If you believe that you will believe anything. If that was true it would be all over the media and it isn't 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
BringbakMON said:
this sort of thing ?

www.independent.co.uk

Paris police accused of clearing out migrant camp in pre-Olympics ‘social cleansing’

French police have evicted migrants from a makeshift camp in Paris a few steps away from the Seine River
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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And because it isn't in the main stream media of course it isn't true.

We (as a collective) bang on about main stream media being poison and not trust worthy.

BUT when we need main stream media as evidence we will lean on it.

Jesus Christ. This is all just a cycle of hypocrisy. Just one big cycle.

So if BBC reported this? It would be true? The same BBC that actively covered up glitter and saville?


Here is a picture from the media showing all men in dingy = it's wrong. It's fake. It's cropped. It's only one photo. It's the narrative. It's the Tories.

Here is a picture of one man claiming he is a doctor with no ID = how dare they. They are killers. Genocide. This is disgusting.

And the cycle continues non stop.
 
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I thought some posters were against main stream media channels anyway? Because they can't be trusted? I thought that was the purpose of the strange twitter links and the links to websites no one has ever heard of before?
 
kefkat said:
I don't know what the link is as it showing nothing.

Erm these people aren't. They certainly aren't marching. They are worn out and tired. They don't march down with boats either.

The boats are hired at scandalous prices.

I am not blaming the wrong country either as I am not blaming this country.

I am putting the responsibility for this right where it lies with this vile Tory in name only party
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0pen your eyes and turn the telly up, it was the main news all day, im not a wind up merchant , also it was nice to see the french coastguards escorting them out, making sure, there gone out of their waters and dont come back ,, shocking,,,seanie
 
colavfc said:
And because it isn't in the main stream media of course it isn't true.

We (as a collective) bang on about main stream media being poison and not trust worthy.

BUT when we need main stream media as evidence we will lean on it.

Jesus Christ. This is all just a cycle of hypocrisy. Just one big cycle.

So if BBC reported this? It would be true? The same BBC that actively covered up glitter and saville?


Here is a picture from the media showing all men in dingy = it's wrong. It's fake. It's cropped. It's only one photo. It's the narrative. It's the Tories.

Here is a picture of one man claiming he is a doctor with no ID = how dare they. They are killers. Genocide. This is disgusting.

And the cycle continues non stop.
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The Independent is mainstream media
 
Some of you are obsessed. They were clearing an illegal migrant camp. We do the same thing at times, moving on all sorts, including gypsies and the like.

Absolutely sick of the right-wing bollox being spouted, this site is becoming unpleasant to be on.

People marching through the streets, ffs, they are far from marching, many of them are poor, wretched souls, victims of organised and vile gangs, promised all sorts in the countries they come to, and then left to rot on the streets, or die in the sea.

And then you come on here and some ignorant **** tells others to open their eyes.

Just fuck off. Had enough of this pollution.
 
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