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The Political Compass test

MedwayModernist said:
Out of interest would the bold bit above make you reconsider some of your positions in the future?

With everyone so far finding out that they're a bit further left than they would have thought suggests more that the parties themselves have drifted to the right over time, with the Tories now a genuine right wing party. Authoritarian (Priti Patel as home sec anyone) and very very free market, low regulation, capitalist (Brexit and "reducing red tape" etc).

As an example, Ken Clarke was expelled by Boris for holding the government to account over Brexit etc, when he was the bloody chancellor under Major.

It's death by a thousand cuts.
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The point really is MM that nobody is right and nobody is wrong.
It’s just opinions.
I’m aware that my brother finds some of my political opinions distasteful as he’s quite a long way to the right.
Am I correct and he’s wrong?
Well, maybe not because the party that he supports is in power and has been for many years and probably will be for many more years.
I’m left complaining and pissing in the wind.
Only when Labour gets it head around the very simple fact that it’s about power and not ideals, then things may change.
 
shotshy said:
The point really is MM that nobody is right and nobody is wrong.
It’s just opinions.
I’m aware that my brother finds some of my political opinions distasteful as he’s quite a long way to the right.
Am I correct and he’s wrong?
Well, maybe not because the party that he supports is in power and has been for many years and probably will be for many more years.
I’m left complaining and pissing in the wind.
Only when Labour gets it head around the very simple fact that it’s about power and not ideals, then things may change.
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And you watch GB News !
 
MedwayModernist said:
With everyone so far finding out that they're a bit further left than they would have thought suggests more that the parties themselves have drifted to the right over time, with the Tories now a genuine right wing party.
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No. The authors of this Political Compass (there are others) have moved the centre line leftwards - to make the Conservative Party seem as "far right" as possible.
If you believed the chart, there are no policies possible that are more "right wing" than the current Conservatives.....
...yet in a minute or so, I listed several policy positions that would be more "right wing" - despite the chart suggesting no space available.

Try reading ConservativeHome comments.
Plenty of posters are complaining at the current Govt. is retaining and implementing socialist policies (e.g. Lockdown) - or doing nothing to protect free speech.

MedwayModernist said:
Authoritarian (Priti Patel as home sec anyone) and very very free market, low regulation, capitalist (Brexit and "reducing red tape" etc)..
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"Authoritarian" and "very very free-market" is an oxymoron

MedwayModernist said:
As an example, Ken Clarke was expelled by Boris for holding the government to account over Brexit etc, when he was the bloody chancellor under Major.
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"holding to account" ????
Clarke (and others) were "expelled" for blocking implementation of the largest democratic vote for anything in UK history.

MedwayModernist said:
It's death by a thousand cuts.
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What "cuts" ?
If only.....
....the government would stop spending large amounts of taxpayer's money on unproductive "government".
 
valenciagill said:
And you watch GB News !
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And RT & France 24 & CNN & BBC & Sky & NHK when the Sumo is on & Bloomberg, CNBC and Al Jazeera.
I browse the Guardian, Mail and anything else that grabs my attention.
I like a broad band of news which gives a better insight in to what is going on in the world and more importantly, from a different perspective.
Part of today’s problems are caused by the narrow mindedness of a percentage of the population. Basically if the narrative doesn’t fit the agenda, then it should be shut down.
“ I disagree, therefore I don’t want to listen”

In my opinion, everyone has a right to an opinion on any issue and as long as it’s expressed lawfully, then they are entitled to say it, whether I agree with it or not.
 
MedwayModernist said:
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This is mine - which is what I'd expect. The one below is the positions of the parties at the last election - which to me shows how the traditional right/left debate is largely out of date. We normally consider the lib dems to be very very central, but just look where they are on the scale below.

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think the Lib Dem’s are in the wrong place. Should be in purple not blue.
 
MedwayModernist said:
Out of interest would the bold bit above make you reconsider some of your positions in the future?

With everyone so far finding out that they're a bit further left than they would have thought suggests more that the parties themselves have drifted to the right over time, with the Tories now a genuine right wing party. Authoritarian (Priti Patel as home sec anyone) and very very free market, low regulation, capitalist (Brexit and "reducing red tape" etc).

As an example, Ken Clarke was expelled by Boris for holding the government to account over Brexit etc, when he was the bloody chancellor under Major.

It's death by a thousand cuts.
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To be honest with you, no. This is just a random online quiz. I would reconsider my position though based on policy and approach of politcal parties. There were policies from all parties I agreed with last election, rather than pinning myself to one side and shooting the other down. However in the end you have to decide which policies matter most and which ones hold the most policies you agree with.

We may have all drifted right but there is no way that Labour are as close to centrist as Lib Dem. Also if the Tories are that far right then where do the more extreme right wingers go? Even the Republicans in the US would be comfortably right of the Tories.
 
MedwayModernist said:
With everyone so far finding out that they're a bit further left than they would have thought suggests more that the parties themselves have drifted to the right over time, with the Tories now a genuine right wing party..
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The British National Party aren't on the list but do you really consider the Tories to be a few pixels away from them?

It should be noted that the website it says it is owned by Pace News Ltd which seems to be pro-Democrat, anti-Republican. The owner Wayne Brittenden is a political hack who I am guessing politically probably sits on the left. The site is also connected to a charity founded by Glenys "My husband Neil is probably more well known than me" Kinnock.

Read into the above what you will, but my personal suspicion is that the scoring is very much with a left leaning lens. Going back and redoing the test but looking at the questions more in the context of how I think the test is going to score each answer and I think it is probably only possible to get a result between the two not quite straight lines drawn below.

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The one observation was that any answer that could be even slightly authoritarian was by definition "right wing" and I am not entirely sure it is possible to fix your answers so that you can be left wing and have authoritarian tendancies.

Personally from my interpretations of where the various parties are, I think all the parties on the graph should be 2-3 grid points down and to the left. With exception of the SNP who I think should be a few points up.
 
MedwayModernist said:
Out of interest would the bold bit above make you reconsider some of your positions in the future?

With everyone so far finding out that they're a bit further left than they would have thought suggests more that the parties themselves have drifted to the right over time, with the Tories now a genuine right wing party. Authoritarian (Priti Patel as home sec anyone) and very very free market, low regulation, capitalist (Brexit and "reducing red tape" etc).

As an example, Ken Clarke was expelled by Boris for holding the government to account over Brexit etc, when he was the bloody chancellor under Major.

It's death by a thousand cuts.
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I don't think a couple of dozen questions in a random survey means people have found out that "that they're a bit further left than they would have thought"; I think it just means the survey has been tailored/designed that way. And a random survey certainly doesn't mean that the Conservative Party have "drifted to the right" even though that may be a popular view to present by those on the left.

I'd say both of the Tory and Labour Party are pretty centrist compared to some of the more extreme Tory and Labour Parties over the years, with the Tories very much centre right and labour centre left. We all know for lefties, Priti Patel, is the devil. but she has just as many haters on the right, who think that she's too soft on illegal migration. Do you think an "authoritarian" Tory Party, which has "drifted to the right" as much as you suggest, would allow the Police to behave in such a soft way that they have this week and generally in recent times - i.e. dancing with ER protesters and at Pride, painting their cars pink, taking the knee etc.?
 
Baghdad_Rob said:
The British National Party aren't on the list but do you really consider the Tories to be a few pixels away from them?

It should be noted that the website it says it is owned by Pace News Ltd which seems to be pro-Democrat, anti-Republican. The owner Wayne Brittenden is a political hack who I am guessing politically probably sits on the left. The site is also connected to a charity founded by Glenys "My husband Neil is probably more well known than me" Kinnock.

Read into the above what you will, but my personal suspicion is that the scoring is very much with a left leaning lens. Going back and redoing the test but looking at the questions more in the context of how I think the test is going to score each answer and I think it is probably only possible to get a result between the two not quite straight lines drawn below.

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The one observation was that any answer that could be even slightly authoritarian was by definition "right wing" and I am not entirely sure it is possible to fix your answers so that you can be left wing and have authoritarian tendancies.

Personally from my interpretations of where the various parties are, I think all the parties on the graph should be 2-3 grid points down and to the left. With exception of the SNP who I think should be a few points up.
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SNP are to the left of blairs labour - thats why they have taken the labour seats.
 
Baghdad_Rob said:
The British National Party aren't on the list but do you really consider the Tories to be a few pixels away from them?

It should be noted that the website it says it is owned by Pace News Ltd which seems to be pro-Democrat, anti-Republican. The owner Wayne Brittenden is a political hack who I am guessing politically probably sits on the left. The site is also connected to a charity founded by Glenys "My husband Neil is probably more well known than me" Kinnock.

Read into the above what you will, but my personal suspicion is that the scoring is very much with a left leaning lens. Going back and redoing the test but looking at the questions more in the context of how I think the test is going to score each answer and I think it is probably only possible to get a result between the two not quite straight lines drawn below.

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The one observation was that any answer that could be even slightly authoritarian was by definition "right wing" and I am not entirely sure it is possible to fix your answers so that you can be left wing and have authoritarian tendancies.

Personally from my interpretations of where the various parties are, I think all the parties on the graph should be 2-3 grid points down and to the left. With exception of the SNP who I think should be a few points up.
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Just took the test imagining I was an old fashioned Stalinist

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A gentle reminer that all, repeat all, questionnaires of this kind are BS. If on the internet they are double BS and probably fishing for data too. If you avoid social media then it is irrational to give any credence to them. To suggest that they indicate any organised body of political thought is absurd. Fill them in and you will place a target on yourself for the receipt of all sorts of other nonsense. If you complete one "honestly" they have all the info required to tailor what crap you receive.
 
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