I think if the right deal came about we could use small fees aswell
Summer Transfer Thread
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king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
Didn't know that, that is good news though. Gives us more flexibility.
Ooooooo to Be a Wiganer
Vital 1st Team Regular
Josh stones will have played in the same team as this lad.
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
The senior squad as it stands (not counting any of the young lads as we don't know who'll end up involved)
Keepers (2)
Tickle
Amos
Left backs (2)
McClean
Pearce
Right Backs (1)
Clare
Centre Backs (5)
Whatmough
Hughes
Morrison
Kerr (injured)
Watts (expected)
Centre Mids (3)
M Smith
Balagizi
McGrath
Attacking mids (5)
Lang
Aasgaard
McMannaman
J Smith
Jones
Strikers (3)
Humphreys
Wyke
Magennis (injured)
I think we definitely still need a def midfielder. I can see McGrath going and if he does that would be another centre mid and i think we'll need another striker as we can't bank on Wyke to be fit and Magennis is not up to much. After that is probably depends on how confident we are on the u21s stepping up to fill in any areas we are light. How the young lads do over the next few preseason games will probably influence that decision.
Keepers (2)
Tickle
Amos
Left backs (2)
McClean
Pearce
Right Backs (1)
Clare
Centre Backs (5)
Whatmough
Hughes
Morrison
Kerr (injured)
Watts (expected)
Centre Mids (3)
M Smith
Balagizi
McGrath
Attacking mids (5)
Lang
Aasgaard
McMannaman
J Smith
Jones
Strikers (3)
Humphreys
Wyke
Magennis (injured)
I think we definitely still need a def midfielder. I can see McGrath going and if he does that would be another centre mid and i think we'll need another striker as we can't bank on Wyke to be fit and Magennis is not up to much. After that is probably depends on how confident we are on the u21s stepping up to fill in any areas we are light. How the young lads do over the next few preseason games will probably influence that decision.
runcornfan1978
Vital Squad Member
I do believe KDZ that Magennis might actually thrive under the style of play Maloney adopts. And with the type of players he is bringing in to suit this style of play, hopefully our strikers (whomever they might be) will reap rewards from the service.
TRUE BELIEVER
Vital Football Hero
I totally agree Runcorn, I think we have not seen the best of Magennis in a Tics shirt as he hasn't had the service to suit his style of play.
There is a reason he keeps being selected for the international side which I think is that he is a better player than we have seen for us.
I hope you are right and he does thrive in the new style of football that Maloney is promising.
Ooooooo to Be a Wiganer
Vital 1st Team Regular
Think if he had been fit he would have been gone.
daleks.at.the.monaco
Vital 1st Team Regular
Minimum game time is also in the mix with loan fees and the % of the player's wage to be paid by the club
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
Who would've taken his wages? I think even if he was fit he'd be impossible to offload.
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
I hope you're right but you've got a lot more confidence in him than me.
Even with better service i'm not convinced he'll do anything. If his goal scoring record was poor but he was a good target man like say Heskey I'd be fine with that, but he's useless as a target man and when chances do come his way he tends to miss them too. So I just don't think he's up to much.
On his day he does look a good player but his day is about once every 10 games if that and the rest of the time he gets so easily pushed off the ball and loses all the headers despite being massive.
He had that one good season at Hull and he's not really done much else over his career, so with him coming up to 33 and recovering from a bad injury I'm not expecting much. I'd love to be proven wrong but from what he's shown in a Wigan shirt he's not looked anywhere near good enough.
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
I tried to find more on this rule but couldn't find it, have you got a link to it?
runcornfan1978
Vital Squad Member
True & I do get where you are coming from KDZ. But since he has been here, he has basically had the ball lumped to his head. In the few games I've seen him play since Maloney came in, he did seem to play that bit better.
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
Charlie Savage left off Man U pre season tour while a number of other young players go. So he's clearly going somewhere on loan imminently.
Rotherham, Cardiff and Portsmouth all apparently showing interest too.
Rotherham, Cardiff and Portsmouth all apparently showing interest too.
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king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
Under Maloney he was very good against Stoke, he was like a prime Jason Roberts that day. But other than that one game I'm not sure he showed much more than he did under any other manager.
If he could play like he did against Stoke every week he'd be some player.
57.1.2 Players signed on an International Loan must sign an employment contract with the Transferee Club in a form equivalent to the Standard Contract;
I think it's because of variations in employment law. To avoid players working in the UK having fewer rights than domestic players they are required to sign a contract with the club. Because they sign a contract with the club they can't be considered a loan player.
Although I note the rules do not appear to be as clear as they used to be. So that may have been a loophole that has since been closed.
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
57.1.2 Players signed on an International Loan must sign an employment contract with the Transferee Club in a form equivalent to the Standard Contract;
I think it's because of variations in employment law. To avoid players working in the UK having fewer rights than domestic players they are required to sign a contract with the club. Because they sign a contract with the club they can't be considered a loan player.
Although I note the rules do not appear to be as clear as they used to be. So that may have been a loophole that has since been closed.
I think it might be closed as when i was trying to find info I came accross an article about Sunderland in L1 having the issue of max of 5 loans and one was from Germany but wasàà counted towards the quota.
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jeffs right
Vital Football Hero
Good for what?
He looked quite ok under Leam when he played up top with a strike partner for a few weeks in the promotion season.
king_dezeeuw06
Vital Football Legend
I've mentioned about the squad size in the past and there has been conflicting info but i just saw this on the EFL rules page.
Seems the squad size is still in place but hasnt dropped to 20 players as was originally planned and is 22 outfield players over 21.
Loan players regardless of age count towards the quota. So at the moment i think we are at 20 if you include the likely arrival of Watts.
Seems the squad size is still in place but hasnt dropped to 20 players as was originally planned and is 22 outfield players over 21.
Loan players regardless of age count towards the quota. So at the moment i think we are at 20 if you include the likely arrival of Watts.
AndABusShelter
Vital Youth Team
This season will be very interesting as looking at the players that we have signed, they certainly all fit the profile of what Maloney wants us to play but they're all gambles. Jonny Smith and Sean Clare, for example, not really players many people rate very highly from their previous work in League One but they've always been described as having "potential". James is another one as he's only had 4 months of senior experience at Crawley before getting injured.
Of the remaining players we've signed I'm quite excited for Smith and Morrison. Surely they are good enough for this level.
Of the remaining players we've signed I'm quite excited for Smith and Morrison. Surely they are good enough for this level.
Good for not losing a million quid a month!
