Pride of Lions
I am now official
Are we down yet?
Nah not exactly. Can you come back in about 2 weeks?
Are we down yet?
Dont apologise for reading the Mail Dumble, they are all as bad as each other, and besides its a decent article.I know it’s the daily fail but it’s in a few papers today and this one isn’t paywalled.
I’m going in circles on Smith. Was definitely in the change manager camp before lockdown as I’ve said before, and I don’t like his recen post match interviews, but increasingly feel like he’s been badly let down.
relegated or not, its going to be an interesting summer:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...rch-facing-axe-amid-concerns-recruitment.html
Would Heaton stay if we went down? Would have thought his england career would be based on if he was a premier league player.....but hed prob still be behind pickford, henderson and Pope? -stay
Reina - gone
Sarkic - gone
Steer - hardly happy to be back up again? Will stay if heaton goes
Nyland- had a plane to catch but missed it.
Guilbert - said he'd stay no matter what league
Konza / Hause / Engels / Elmo / Taylor dont really imagine any team coming in for them- stay
Targett- might leave.....meh not overly bothered
Mings - prob leave for more than we bought him for
El ghazi / Trez / Jota- prob leave, doesnt bother me in the slightest
Jack/ McGinn/ Luiz - Super Jack will go, McGinn at 25 would prob want to stay in the prem if a decent offer comes in. Luiz is putting in performances now that could attract offers. gone
Nakamba/ Hourihane - I'd imagine would stay
Lansbury- def stay, not giving up on that contract
Wesley/ Samatta/ Davis / Vassilev - I'd imagine all would stay unless an offer for Ally came in from Europe.
Even if we played some of the youngsters, we would still need a fair few players again.
Forwards are enough to compete in the championship. Would need a few midfielders and some creativity- Eze from QPR would be nice, doubt we'd get Berhama. Defence would prob be ok too, just need a new left back. Compared to the squad that went down before, reckon we're in better shape to come straight back up.......
I am in the sack Smith camp.
If we could get someone in quickly, this last few PL games we'll be turning up for, would give the new guy an opportunity to see what we have - or what we might have. He can see them in 'competitive action' so he has more idea of what is required for the new season in the Championship.
That to me would be the best thing movong forward because next season will be upon us very quickly.
Would Heaton stay if we went down? Would have thought his england career would be based on if he was a premier league player.....but hed prob still be behind pickford, henderson and Pope? -stay
Reina - gone
Sarkic - gone
Steer - hardly happy to be back up again? Will stay if heaton goes
Nyland- had a plane to catch but missed it.
Guilbert - said he'd stay no matter what league
Konza / Hause / Engels / Elmo / Taylor dont really imagine any team coming in for them- stay
Targett- might leave.....meh not overly bothered
Mings - prob leave for more than we bought him for
El ghazi / Trez / Jota- prob leave, doesnt bother me in the slightest
Jack/ McGinn/ Luiz - Super Jack will go, McGinn at 25 would prob want to stay in the prem if a decent offer comes in. Luiz is putting in performances now that could attract offers. gone
Nakamba/ Hourihane - I'd imagine would stay
Lansbury- def stay, not giving up on that contract
Wesley/ Samatta/ Davis / Vassilev - I'd imagine all would stay unless an offer for Ally came in from Europe.
Even if we played some of the youngsters, we would still need a fair few players again.
Forwards are enough to compete in the championship. Would need a few midfielders and some creativity- Eze from QPR would be nice, doubt we'd get Berhama. Defence would prob be ok too, just need a new left back. Compared to the squad that went down before, reckon we're in better shape to come straight back up.......
Agree with most of that. Definitely think Heaton would stay. Captain next season I think.
Also think we could persuade at least 1 of Mings, Luiz or Mcginn to stay as well. All 3 would be a cut above the championship and any of them staying boosts us enormously in that league.
As for the strikers I can see Samatta doing well enough in the championship. Wesley too if we give him some service.
If he was getting sacked he would have gone by now. He's here until the end of the season at least.
Looks like west ham do.Up a place due to Bournemouth getting battered by Newcastle. Good old Brucey. If Chelsea beat West Ham 5 nil we're out of the relegation zone. Don't think anyone down the bottom actually wants to stay up.
4 seasons out of 5 in the chumps league...at least. As bad as we were in 2016 I didn't see that blot on our record coming.Hopefully those we think that are dross, after a long hard season in the premiership and that experience under their belts, (should we get relegated) will probably find some good form in the Championship. With a few more months and a pre-season to gel the rest, I think we'll do fine. I never ever ever liked those comments from fans who'd wished we'd stayed down just to see us win more games, because for as long as you're in the second tier, you will never achieve more than an F.A cup, which has also lost it's importance somewhat - however I do think, with the right manager and retaining just enough quality, being relegated will probably stand us in better stead.
Sheff UTD, although now off the boil, show that work ethic and team cohesion are worth nearly as much as an individual quality. Sadly we lack both.
I don't see mings showing off his villa shirt on that train down to Bournemouth in late July. ...Since these Jack Grealish going to manure rumours he has gone of the boil which don't help same with Mcginn before the injury had gone off the boil these papers dont help unsettling players Mings thinks hes better than he is he couldn't get in the Bournemouth team thats why we had him even though they screwed us over on that .
Mings linked to Arsenal....imagine him and Luis as their centre backs. ...Agreed.... Heaton seemed captain material, might feel he "owes" us since being out for half a season. Reckon will stay.
Mings and Luiz are new internationals, might need the move to preserve their international status? Mings linked to Arsenal during the week.. McGinn was being talked about as a 50m buy last season, if silly money is offered, cant be blamed.. hope he stays too though.
Reckon wesley and samatta could destroy the championship, but they need service, they're prob too similar style wise or maybe im just saying that cos they are both being played up top by themselves.
Liverpool didn't even have to work for their goals. Arsenal were down to 10 men when we gave them two goals in the last 10 minutes. It's happened too many times . Simply not good enough.The killer is that we led man utd, Spurs in both games, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea and should have won 4 of those games. We just threw too many points away.