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People Trafficking

LancsGordoRoad

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Disgusting and very sad that people traffickers are getting away with so much criminality. This dreadful "trade" has a considerable foothold both in the UK and abroad and there are a lot of wicked people getting very rich out of it.

Police from Essex (and Kent) will be engaged in the complicated task of identify the deceased that were so cruelly and wickedly left to suffocate in the refrigerated trailer discovered in Grays. The investigation will be long and protracted and won`t be helped by years of substantial cuts in police capacity to monitor and investigate Organised Crime.

There`s an awful lot we don`t know yet but it seems apparent that a high number of victims are of Vietnamese origin. If this turns out to be the case then I would speculate that some of them, maybe a lot of them, would have found themselves "imprisoned" and forced to "farm" at Cannabis growing sites up and down the UK. The market for this kind of disgusting trafficking (yes, any form of people trafficking is disgusting) has grown significantly over the last decade. Organised Crime thrives on exploiting weakness. It`s been making the most of the government`s gamble to resist adequate funding of the many facets that collectively enable national security. The dreadful discovery in Grays will only be the tip of the iceberg.

To my mind, addressing the horrid trade in human trafficking needs to be elevated to the top of the political agenda. Politicians should be embarrassed that they`ve allowed this horrendous criminality to expand to the level it`s reached and should urgently fund proper and effective enforcement against the perpetrators.

Thoughts go to the families of the people, yes human beings, killed by profiteering low-life vermin gangsters. Are we really in the 21st century !!!!!
 
A driver was interviewed at Grays and didn't know what was in the refrigerated container. If nothing else, surely there are rules [very least a paper trail] regarding what is known of 'known' and 'unknown' cargo?

A very, very sad incident and it won't be the last sadly.
 
A driver was interviewed at Grays and didn't know what was in the refrigerated container. If nothing else, surely there are rules [very least a paper trail] regarding what is known of 'known' and 'unknown' cargo?

A very, very sad incident and it won't be the last sadly.

Most trailers are security sealed now, especially coming into the country. Most imported trailers will not be excepted by the receiving company if there is either no security seal on the container or it has been tampered with. A fair percentage of imported trailers will be picked up at ports by a tractor unit, so the driver will not be aware of what is in his container.

A lot trailers and containers just travelling within this country now have security seals on them.

Sky now saying that there are reports that there were 3 of these migrant trailers travelling to the UK and this one was diverted and delayed.

It's sad that the bastards at the top of the chain will probably never even see a container let alone be stuck in one. Horrible way to go.
 
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The trafficking gangs promise the earth to these desperate people and then take their savings.
There is no money back if you don't make it. No insurance and if you die en route it's someone else's problem. Utter scum but good cross border intelligence is key to bringing some of the main players to justice.
 
People that provide these services = scum
People that use these services = desperate

I'm sure it's not as simple as that
 
Utter scum but good cross border intelligence is key to bringing some of the main players to justice.

We have a good cross border intelligence infrastructure, which will remain whether or not we leave the EU. What we don`t have are sufficient law enforcement and associated assets to deliver intelligence.
 
My reading of the situation as an average citizen is that there are simply not enough people to enforce the law. Boris talks of recruiting thousands of police officers but it's probably election talk and no more. We have organised crime that deals in drugs and people trafficking among other crimes. The chiefs don't do the leg work or dirty work but rely on people that have been left behind by society - kids and adults on the edge, people who have committed petty crime and know of no other way, people who have been abandoned and have lived in institutions all their lives. Far more police on the streets will help; more police to hit the gang leaders will help and more specialists will help too but also we have to put back what so many youngsters are missing to-day; the police can't do it on their own. Cut backs in the fifth largest global economy have seen playing fields closed; social care at a bare minimum and little or nothing to do after school or work. It's a mess.......
 
We have a good cross border intelligence infrastructure, which will remain whether or not we leave the EU. What we don`t have are sufficient law enforcement and associated assets to deliver intelligence.

There was someone from the union who represent border force workers on tv on Friday and they said there was simply not enough manpower, land space or time to search every container or trailer that comes into this country every day, about 250,000.
 
Perhaps if the migrants entering the UK illegally knew they would be immediately deported , then this horrible trade wouldnt be so prevalent.
At the moment , only around 6% are removed from the country.
 
There was someone from the union who represent border force workers on tv on Friday and they said there was simply not enough manpower, land space or time to search every container or trailer that comes into this country every day, about 250,000.

Yes Captain, the inaptly named Border Force is trying to do the job of a number of previously separate agencies, such as HMCE. Customs had various specialised teams who were very good at their job and were far better resourced than the current mishmash. But, you don`t necessarily have to search every container/trailer/rigid that comes in or out; if the resource was there to allow effective investigation of organised crime there would be a far more successful "targeted" regime leading to more substantive and positive outcomes.
 
Perhaps if the migrants entering the UK illegally knew they would be immediately deported , then this horrible trade wouldnt be so prevalent.
At the moment , only around 6% are removed from the country.

I take your point, Valencia but the migrants are misled by traffickers who simply see them as a smuggling commodity. Criminals, particularly those with logistical means and knowledge, can easily exploit our very weak borders. People Trafficking carries less risk of a lengthy prison sentence than does importing class A drugs and in some cases, smugglers of drug related cargo might even find it more profitable to smuggle people. Whilst there are plenty of UK nationals involved in this wicked trade it is also the case that there are substantial numbers of UK hosted Eastern European (Organised Crime) groups that have a deepening foothold on this kind of disgusting crime.
 
The penalties have to be made so severe as to discourage traffickers. Imprisonment for life without parole for a start.
 
I take your point, Valencia but the migrants are misled by traffickers who simply see them as a smuggling commodity.

Is that really true, because it doesn't seem true based on the BBC website story on the 2 Vietnamese that are suspected to have been amongst the dead? They travelled through Europe, and then got into a shipping container for travel to the UK - they must have known this was illegal?
 
Great. I agree then, arrest them and put them in jail.
The main man in the UK is an Albanian. It is no wonder that the EU is very reluctant to welcome Albania as members given the number of their citizens involved in a range of criminal activities.
 
I would not be surprised if the Triads who operate throughout Western Europe or a Mafia type gang are at the heart of the trafficking to the UK and they are probably untouchable, the ones who get caught here and jailed will not cause those at the top any sleepless nights.
Time does not allow for more than a small percentage of trucks and containers to be inspected in our ports however many we have in the police or border force, otherwise the long line of trucks waiting to board on the Continent and containers waiting for shipment to the UK would be logistically impossible to operate.