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War is ugly.

Despots killing their fellow citizens is uglier still - whether in Libya, where intervention prevented genocide, or Syria where the west failed to intervene, allowed Assad to commit genocide, secure his position with Russian support and as an unforeseen by-product assisted the rise of IS shows that sometimes ugly choices have to be made.

Iraq showed what happens when ugly choices are made for the wrong reasons.
 
Chesterimp said:
War is ugly.

Despots killing their fellow citizens is uglier still - whether in Libya, where intervention prevented genocide, or Syria where the west failed to intervene, allowed Assad to commit genocide, secure his position with Russian support and as an unforeseen by-product assisted the rise of IS shows that sometimes ugly choices have to be made.

Iraq showed what happens when ugly choices are made for the wrong reasons.
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Hindsight is a magical thing, is it not?
 
Chesterimp said:
War is ugly.

Despots killing their fellow citizens is uglier still - whether in Libya, where intervention prevented genocide, or Syria where the west failed to intervene, allowed Assad to commit genocide, secure his position with Russian support and as an unforeseen by-product assisted the rise of IS shows that sometimes ugly choices have to be made.

Iraq showed what happens when ugly choices are made for the wrong reasons.
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And yet, all a result of failed Western interventions and historical Imperialism in the Middle East. Study some history.

It's not our problem other than we created it and fucking made it worse.
 
Chesterimp said:
War is ugly.

Despots killing their fellow citizens is uglier still - whether in Libya, where intervention prevented genocide, or Syria where the west failed to intervene, allowed Assad to commit genocide, secure his position with Russian support and as an unforeseen by-product assisted the rise of IS shows that sometimes ugly choices have to be made.

Iraq showed what happens when ugly choices are made for the wrong reasons.
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We created Syria and every genocidal conflict in the ME.

The US supported Saddam Hussein's regime until he invaded Kuwait.

The UK and US still support Saudi Ariabi's oppressive regime because, oil.

Do you get it yet?
 
Chesterimp said:
War is ugly.

Despots killing their fellow citizens is uglier still - whether in Libya, where intervention prevented genocide, or Syria where the west failed to intervene, allowed Assad to commit genocide, secure his position with Russian support and as an unforeseen by-product assisted the rise of IS shows that sometimes ugly choices have to be made.

Iraq showed what happens when ugly choices are made for the wrong reasons.
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So, despots are bad. I'll ask you again. When do we militarily intervene in North Korea and China.

Respond, or shut the fuck up.
 
Chesterimp said:
War is ugly.

Despots killing their fellow citizens is uglier still - whether in Libya, where intervention prevented genocide, or Syria where the west failed to intervene, allowed Assad to commit genocide, secure his position with Russian support and as an unforeseen by-product assisted the rise of IS shows that sometimes ugly choices have to be made.

Iraq showed what happens when ugly choices are made for the wrong reasons.
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Meanwhile Robert Mugabe somehow got a pass from the rest of the civilised world for decades...
 
Chesterimp said:
War is ugly.

Despots killing their fellow citizens is uglier still - whether in Libya, where intervention prevented genocide, or Syria where the west failed to intervene, allowed Assad to commit genocide, secure his position with Russian support and as an unforeseen by-product assisted the rise of IS shows that sometimes ugly choices have to be made.

Iraq showed what happens when ugly choices are made for the wrong reasons.
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Absolutely. When do we invade Israel for their oppression of the Palestinian minority?

You understand how we helped create that situation, right?

Ugly choices have to be made.
 
So, Ed Miliband is a war criminal, Chesterimp?

Who have you voted for? Let's examine your voting record and see exactly who is the war criminal.
 
NottyImp said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/31/how-the-us-created-a-world-of-endless-war

War is peace.
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At least with Trump, Bush (twice), Reagan etc we knew what utter ***** they were. Obama came with a new ‘hope’ and gave us more of the same. The thought that Biden would be any different on foreign policy, or is somehow solely to blame for this latest disaster, is quite bizarre. I guess the point is is that the so called ‘Leader of the Free World’ only does what his handlers tell him to do…

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016...ng-About-More-Halliburton-KBR-and-Dick-Cheney

Quite how that makes Ed Milliband, at the time Leader of the Opposition (and a hopeless one according to the ‘free’ press) a war criminal I’m not too sure.
 
MaineRoad_96 said:
At least with Trump, Bush (twice), Reagan etc we knew what utter ***** they were. Obama came with a new ‘hope’ and gave us more of the same. The thought that Biden would be any different on foreign policy, or is somehow solely to blame for this latest disaster, is quite bizarre. I guess the point is is that the so called ‘Leader of the Free World’ only does what his handlers tell him to do…

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016...ng-About-More-Halliburton-KBR-and-Dick-Cheney

Quite how that makes Ed Milliband, at the time Leader of the Opposition (and a hopeless one according to the ‘free’ press) a war criminal I’m not too sure.
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The moral of the story is that Americans are Americans and always will be, doesn't matter what shape or colour they come in, they are all Americans. They cannot be trusted any more then the Taliban.
 
MaineRoad_96 said:
At least with Trump, Bush (twice), Reagan etc we knew what utter ***** they were. Obama came with a new ‘hope’ and gave us more of the same. The thought that Biden would be any different on foreign policy, or is somehow solely to blame for this latest disaster, is quite bizarre. I guess the point is is that the so called ‘Leader of the Free World’ only does what his handlers tell him to do…

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016...ng-About-More-Halliburton-KBR-and-Dick-Cheney

Quite how that makes Ed Milliband, at the time Leader of the Opposition (and a hopeless one according to the ‘free’ press) a war criminal I’m not too sure.
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As I understand it, Trump was unusual in that he was the first US President in quite some time not to start a new war or conflict. He was also the one that agreed to the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.

Whatever Trumps faults are, it would appear that being the same on foreign policy as other recent US presidents is one that can't be levelled at him; if you are solely judging him by starting conflicts or doing nothing to end the one that started before taking office.

It appears we can agree that Biden is a puppet being handled by his masters.
 
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NottyImp said:
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/sep/06/supreme-court-trump-texas-abortion-law-democracy

America's slide into Fascism takes another lurch down the slope.

Never mind the law itself, which abhorrent enough, take a look at the legal and constitutional consequences.
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Never mind the "snitches websites" which are active, those snitching on anyone who either has an abortion or aids someone in getting one gets a 10,000 dollar bounty
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-abortion-law-bounty-hunters-citizens/
 
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