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chris who

Vital 1st Team Regular
#61
I think you have a point on the risk - but maybe the message is being lost in all of the negativity and obvious man-love towards Fuller.

As it goes, I think this is the way that Evans’ does man management. He’s already said that Hodgson and Fuller won’t play a part. In bringing in another right back pronto, it might gently encourage Hodson and/or Fuller to leave if an offer comes along.
What are you on about Fuller is a good league one player that's it.Jackson to my knowledge has never proven himself at this level Perhaps Evan's is right only games will tell .But I feel that in my judgement it is a poor signing. The fact that Evan's gave up on Fuller before might just be could his judgement. IE he was too old then.Sorry based on there performances for us that I have seen there really is no contest.i do wonder if Evan's has seen Jackson in this league before if he had would have signed him?
 

chris who

Vital 1st Team Regular
#62
Can see it now...Ryan Jackson will be on top form for the first dozen games, then one error and dopey chris wont shut the fuck up about it until he leaves the club!
I have never singled out a player for abuse. I do give my honest opinion. If that goes against the majority on here so be it.Had Evans just got rid of Jackson I am certain most would agree with it and say he wasn't good enough.This is about your belief in Evans not a belief that Jackson is better that Fuller. If Evans had made to other judgement you would agree with that.
 
#63
What are you on about Fuller is a good league one player that's it.Jackson to my knowledge has never proven himself at this level Perhaps Evan's is right only games will tell .But I feel that in my judgement it is a poor signing. The fact that Evan's gave up on Fuller before might just be could his judgement. IE he was too old then.Sorry based on there performances for us that I have seen there really is no contest.i do wonder if Evan's has seen Jackson in this league before if he had would have signed him?
If you think that there’s some gulf in class between L1 and L2 you’re kidding yourself. One of the games last season in which we looked seriously second best was against Colchester in the Mickey Mouse cup. If you think signing one of the better performing players in the league below ours isn’t a decent realistic way forward, I’ll confine myself to saying I’m surprised.
 

chris who

Vital 1st Team Regular
#64
I really hope Fuller stays because I am totally convinced he will again prove the lot of you wrong. If he goes I am sure he probably will drop down so you will all be comfortable that you were correct.Fitness was probably the reason Bayo leaving wasn't seen as a backward step .But he has since proved people wrong. Fuller will do the same if he chooses to.
 

chris who

Vital 1st Team Regular
#65
If you think that there’s some gulf in class between L1 and L2 you’re kidding yourself. One of the games last season in which we looked seriously second best was against Colchester in the Mickey Mouse cup. If you think signing one of the better performing players in the league below ours isn’t a decent realistic way forward, I’ll confine myself to saying I’m surprised.
There is a gulf in class of course their might be two of three useful sides in league two but most are miles away from the top half of league one .If we are talking relegation bound clubs against those coming up of course are probably better .For that vast majority there is a gulf.Same as for example Andy Hessenthaler's last Gillingham side and the one we had last season.
 

Billy_Bleach

Vital Squad Member
#66
What are you on about Fuller is a good league one player that's it.Jackson to my knowledge has never proven himself at this level
If you're expecting all of our signings to be proven league one players then you're going to be disappointed mate, we don't have that sort of budget. What we do have is a management team with contacts and experience to get the basics of a decent squad together. Crucially unlike some recent managers with good contacts, SE and PR also have the coaching ability to build a good team looking up rather than down.
 

chris who

Vital 1st Team Regular
#68
If you're expecting all of our signings to be proven league one players then you're going to be disappointed mate, we don't have that sort of budget. What we do have is a management team with contacts and experience to get the basics of a decent squad together. Crucially unlike some recent managers with good contacts, SE and PR also have the coaching ability to build a good team looking up rather than down.
No I am not expecting a lot but if you make a first signing and in my view he is worse than what you have in that position already it doesn't exactly thrill me.We had a good defensive set up last season and most if not all could be gone by the time the season starts .The first replacement is not as good in my view.If we are able to keep Ogilvie and Tucker perhaps Jackson can be less if a problem. But if we are going for a young team and Jackson is one of our few senior players then that doesn't sound like something I want to celebrate.
 
#70
Never proven at L1 level, yet was a major part of the team that got our highest finish since the championship days.

How do you know he's no better than we already have?
If Fuller were to regress this season at the same rate he has from 2018/19 to this past season then we're in trouble and I doubt you've been watching Colchester closely over the past two seasons.
 
#74
You have your view I have mine.Whatever the right and wrong of Jackson if you have very limited funds you don't start with having 3 right backs.
Absolutely and having a view is fine. It's just that it's totally predictable what it'll be. Since Lovell left (I can't remember before) it's guaranteed that you will be negative about it. Much like in politics whenever the Tories do something you know someone from Labour will say its a mistake.

We don't know that the other right backs won't leave, the season is 6 weeks away, don't get too annoyed about the squad now.
 
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chris who

Vital 1st Team Regular
#75
Absolutely and having a view is fine. It's just that it's totally predictable what it'll be. Since Lovell left (I can't remember before) it's guaranteed that you will be negative about it. Much like in politics whenever the Tories do something you know someone from Labour will say its a mistake.

We don't know that the other right backs won't leave, the season is 6 weeks away, don't get to annoyed about the squad now.
For me it is one thing giving up on Hobson who has never looked like becoming a first teamer.Another giving up twice now on a guy who gives everything in every game.I think it is wrong to force him to leave .Which if Fuller is genuinely worried about the future of Gills then he is.If Fuller has agreed to go then fine give Jackson a chance. But if not in my view it is the wrong way to act.
 

mozzer59

Vital Squad Member
#78
I have never singled out a player for abuse. I do give my honest opinion. If that goes against the majority on here so be it.Had Evans just got rid of Jackson I am certain most would agree with it and say he wasn't good enough.This is about your belief in Evans not a belief that Jackson is better that Fuller. If Evans had made to other judgement you would agree with that.
Absolutely nothing to do Evans! I have always rated Ryan Jackson!