and mine, thanks Steve....That brought a smile to my face
and mine, thanks Steve....That brought a smile to my face
Well - we won't win our game in hand which is away to Chelsea because we never win there. We also have games against Arsenal, Liverpool and City to come. If Ange doesn't adapt the formation/tactics in those games and we know he won't then we will lose those games as well - and we will lose them handsomely because one thing that Arteta/Klopp and Pep will do is set their teams up to expose our obvious weaknesses.Well if our Deluded Dreamer wins his game in hand HH mate,then we are level on points with Emery's Villa so what's the difference.
For that, I raises me 'at to ya Walt. But do me a favour; break that 32 games down to progressive quarters and show me at which quarter the 60 points came from, cause I don't think they've been coming lately. That might show an interesting trend.Comparison with past seasons (first 32 matches)
Tottenham's record after 32 matches in the same league/divisionIf the above isn’t progress , I.m not sure what is .
GP W D L GF GA Pts * Comparison 2023-2024 32 18 6 8 65 49 60 - 2022-2023 32 16 5 11 58 51 53 +7 pts 2021-2022 32 18 3 11 56 38 57 +3 pts 2020-2021 32 14 8 10 54 37 50 +10 pts 2019-2020 32 12 9 11 51 44 45 +15 pts
Also , this is the first season in the last five that we have had a coach for a complete season .
We're just as capable of pulling a rabbit out of the hat as we are of dropping our trousers below our ankles. You just never know what team may turn up.I figure we need 12 points from 7 games to finish 5th and 15 points to finish 4th.
Let’s see what happens.
games 1 to 8 - 20 ptsFor that, I raises me 'at to ya Walt. But do me a favour; break that 32 games down to progressive quarters and show me at which quarter the 60 points came from, cause I don't think they've been coming lately. That might show an interesting trend.
I'd do it meself but don't have the nous.
Don't be churlish LC, he clearly achieved relative success with the limited resources he had at both those clubs in their respective top leagues.I don't recall him achieving anything at all with Espanyol or Southampton?
All fair points HH mate but we are such a Jeckyl and Hide team whose to say we won't get at least 5 points from those 3 huge games,we could possibly. Also I was thinking the same about Newcastle,don't think it will happen but you never know.Well - we won't win our game in hand which is away to Chelsea because we never win there. We also have games against Arsenal, Liverpool and City to come. If Ange doesn't adapt the formation/tactics in those games and we know he won't then we will lose those games as well - and we will lose them handsomely because one thing that Arteta/Klopp and Pep will do is set their teams up to expose our obvious weaknesses.
I would be more concerned about Newcastle overtaking us than fooling ourselves into thinking we can catch Villa.
You are right Vinnie - you never know with spurs. Here's hoping!All fair points HH mate but we are such a Jeckyl and Hide team whose to say we won't get at least 5 points from those 3 huge games,we could possibly. Also I was thinking the same about Newcastle,don't think it will happen but you never know.
Great point. Right now - it could get quite toxic very quickly. We have seen it before. There were boos at half time on Saturday. One big performance against Arsenal and it could turn in our favour again. I am not optimistic but you never know.When all is said and done, it was hugely disappointing performance.
And the measure of the coaches now, is to get almost the whole under performing team to respond.
Do that, and this whole sorry mess goes away, fail badly again and the end of this season will be a shit fest.
It certainly is, I should know I have had many Old Dogs and they do learn! simples! Lol!Is it going to be possible to teach an old dog new tricks.
Thanks TQ2, that was quick!games 1 to 8 - 20 pts
games 9 to 16 - 10 pts
games 17 to 24 - 17 pts
games 25 to 32 - 13 pts
Emery also has Villa playing a high line and they've conceded 49 goals this season - the same as us. Different system but same end result.
Emery lasted less than 18 months at Arsenal. He was absolutely pilloried for his tactical naivety and tinkering even though he had been a serial winner previously. I didn't agree the with the Gooner fans then but it shows the futilty of making such quick judgements.
I'll bet if Emery had been available to us when we signed Ange not too many Spurs fans would have been impressed.
Eddie Howe has won endless plaudits for his coaching and tactical skiils at Newcastle yet they've conceded 53 goals this season. In fact, every team below us other than Everton has conceded the same or more goals than us. And that includes respected and courted coaches such as EtH, de zerbi, Moyes, Poch etc.
Let's give our 'deluded dreamer' time to reflect on this season and find solutions to the problems. And maybe even be appreciative that we're still in with a strong shout of a Champions League place at this late stage in the season. Very few predicted we would be at the start of the season.
I think the second quarter (9-16) was when we had all of the injuries to Maddison, Bentancur and other important players.Thanks TQ2, that was quick!
Quarter 1-8 (1/3 of total) is when we took them by surprise, followed by a steep decline, supposedly when coaches woke-up, but that sharp recovery in quarter 17-24 is interesting.
Now for a bit further analysis we need to see who we played in quarters 1-8 and 17-24 combined, compared to quarters 9-16 and 25-32 combined.
I aint going to do it, first 'cause I don't have the nous and second I drove a total 715.1 km today (5hrs each way) and I'm off to bed - night all....
I'd also like to add that the leagues were weaker back then. And what has he gone on to do with Spurs, PSG and Chelsea?Don't be churlish LC, he clearly achieved relative success with the limited resources he had at both those clubs in their respective top leagues.
Yes TQ2, yr right, didn't dawn on me. Let's put that aside and regardless, we see a progressive decline from a very promising start. Which has been identified and commented on by most on this site.I think the second quarter (9-16) was when we had all of the injuries to Maddison, Bentancur and other important players.
I wouldn't disagree with that, I'm beginning to wonder whether these players are in tune with Ange's philosophy.Yes TQ2, yr right, didn't dawn on me. Let's put that aside and regardless, we see a progressive decline from a very promising start. Which has been identified and commented on by most on this site.
The poorer showing in the second quarter was a result of the Chelsea game, suspensions, and significant long-term injuries to key players. It was impossible to deal with. We still have not quite recovered.Thanks TQ2, that was quick!
Quarter 1-8 (1/3 of total) is when we took them by surprise, followed by a steep decline, supposedly when coaches woke-up, but that sharp recovery in quarter 17-24 is interesting.
Now for a bit further analysis we need to see who we played in quarters 1-8 and 17-24 combined, compared to quarters 9-16 and 25-32 combined.
I aint going to do it, first 'cause I don't have the nous and second I drove a total 715.1 km today (5hrs each way) and I'm off to bed - night all....