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Must admit having just done one for my mom, i think the online form is very simple, but that some might need help as you have to upload proof of this, that and the other (which is fair enough)

I would have to be educated (genuinely) why some of the non physical disabilities would need a badge and in effect, possibly take the space for someone who can't walk properly.

I can't see how they would deem Parkinsons as invisible, my brain disease would be deemed the same, the brain is in the head, the central nervous system, etc is inside the body. I have had a 'well you look alright' a fair few times over the years (especially when younger). I have asked before 'what do you need me to do, put on a limp?'

I do think people with blue badges owe a debt of responsibility as well, I know a few who let their spouses use them for instance (NOT THE IDEA). I know I only use mine when I am having a flair up, if not, I park in normal spaces. I don't need to do that, my legs hurt 24/7 there is never a break from that, but if I can do a further distance, it is right to do so - and also good for me.
 
The Fear said:
I would have to be educated (genuinely) why some of the non physical disabilities would need a badge and in effect, possibly take the space for someone who can't walk properly.
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Simply put, it's so parents of autistic kids can park closer to places such as shops, play places, hospital/doctors etc. Many autistic kids struggle with road safety and have literally no sense of danger when around roads and vehicles, etc. It's not necessarily for physical reasons more mental/behavioural.

It's also about routine and knowing what to expect - autistic kids (and adults, to be fair) hate surprises and unexpected turn of events.
 
JuanPabloAngel said:
Simply put, it's so parents of autistic kids can park closer to places such as shops, play places, hospital/doctors etc. Many autistic kids struggle with road safety and have literally no sense of danger when around roads and vehicles, etc. It's not necessarily for physical reasons more mental/behavioural.

It's also about routine and knowing what to expect - autistic kids (and adults, to be fair) hate surprises and unexpected turn of events.
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Yes. The planning element can be key. Always Child/person specific with autism , but if they now a parking space is going to be available and also exactly where it will be then it can be a big comfort.
 
Yep my granddaughter has Aspergers, she looks "normal", she's very clever and can even ride a bike which apparently many can't, You wouldn't know she has anything wrong with her but spend a couple of minutes with her you would.
However, to my knowledge, they don't have a blue badge as she doesn't know she has Aspergers.
Her life is a misery, at school she is that weird kid we all knew but they didn't have a tag back then. We've come a long way since my day but still not far enough.
I'll leave it there because if you know someone with Aspergers you will know what I mean if you don't just google it
 
Villan57 said:
Yep my granddaughter has Aspergers, she looks "normal", she's very clever and can even ride a bike which apparently many can't, You wouldn't know she has anything wrong with her but spend a couple of minutes with her you would.
However, to my knowledge, they don't have a blue badge as she doesn't know she has Aspergers.
Her life is a misery, at school she is that weird kid we all knew but they didn't have a tag back then. We've come a long way since my day but still not far enough.
I'll leave it there because if you know someone with Aspergers you will know what I mean if you don't just google it
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Yup Sir Dennis jnr has aspergers , school was a nightmare for him , but his college which is a specialist college have been the making of him , he even did a talk about it at Villa Park once at an Autism awareness event. Knowing a fair bit about it , I can tell pretty quickly if some people are autistic and it doesn't half help when judging or dealing with them.
 
sirdennis said:
Yup Sir Dennis jnr has aspergers , school was a nightmare for him , but his college which is a specialist college have been the making of him , he even did a talk about it at Villa Park once at an Autism awareness event. Knowing a fair bit about it , I can tell pretty quickly if some people are autistic and it doesn't half help when judging or dealing with them.
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Yes, mate, she sits all through the games at Villa Park with her headphone and Ipad. We had some strange looks at Wembley too. She loves the day out the football is secondary. She thinks Wembley is an annual day out! Shes' 10 now and has hat a ST since she was 4

My old boss has it and he had to tell me he had it and I'd know him for 5 years when he did that, I just thought he was a bit strange but it didn't stop him being my manager.
 
Villan57 said:
Yes, mate, she sits all through the games at Villa Park with her headphone and Ipad. We had some strange looks at Wembley too. She loves the day out the football is secondary. She thinks Wembley is an annual day out! Shes' 10 now and has hat a ST since she was 4

My old boss has it and he had to tell me he had it and I'd know him for 5 years when he did that, I just thought he was a bit strange but it didn't stop him being my manager.
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Most are intelligent , it's just the way they process/perceive things. Sir D jnr obviously gets his intelligence from me though lol. Seriously he still has times when he can't manage going to games , but as it's generally been a way of life for him so is "normal" for him although he is never really relaxed when he has got to his seat as that's his personal space .
 
Indeed, anything different and you are the weird kid.

Kids are very cruel, without really understanding what they are doing I think.

People are actually frightened of anything different I think. I know after my brain chop, people talked to me differently, and some used to shout. I wasn't deaf, I wasn't thick, I was just different! And the amount of people who went out of their way to avoid me (although I do realise there might well be a joke lurking in that last bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Said it before in this thread, we are brought up to 'look away' 'don't stare' etc when we see disabled people, and the films all have the badies as disabled/scarred/different.

Still the last lot of people that no one really gives a damn about. Look at the taking the knee in football, our club is nicely vocal against racism, fine, I agree, but when I bring up the lack of disabled facilities (not for me by the way) which I have banged on about/championed for years, it doesn't get the same reception and also, last time, it was pointed out that it is costly.

More costly than taking the knee or fucking banners, agreed. Any less important?
 
sirdennis said:
Most are intelligent , it's just the way they process/perceive things. Sir D jnr obviously gets his intelligence from me though lol. Seriously he still has times when he can't manage going to games , but as it's generally been a way of life for him so is "normal" for him although he is never really relaxed when he has got to his seat as that's his personal space .
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I remember before we knew she had anything"wrong" with her she had a meltdown going through the turnstiles because we were running late and we didn't have time to go and get anything to eat first, I mean a meltdown I dragged her through by her hood in the end because she wasn't coming in.
 
The Fear said:
Must admit having just done one for my mom, i think the online form is very simple, but that some might need help as you have to upload proof of this, that and the other (which is fair enough)

I would have to be educated (genuinely) why some of the non physical disabilities would need a badge and in effect, possibly take the space for someone who can't walk properly.

I can't see how they would deem Parkinsons as invisible, my brain disease would be deemed the same, the brain is in the head, the central nervous system, etc is inside the body. I have had a 'well you look alright' a fair few times over the years (especially when younger). I have asked before 'what do you need me to do, put on a limp?'

I do think people with blue badges owe a debt of responsibility as well, I know a few who let their spouses use them for instance (NOT THE IDEA). I know I only use mine when I am having a flair up, if not, I park in normal spaces. I don't need to do that, my legs hurt 24/7 there is never a break from that, but if I can do a further distance, it is right to do so - and also good for me.
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For less complex mental health PIP standard rate mobility can be given (that's the low rate)

Though it must be 8 point award on mental health mobility only to get a blue badge without an assessment of further evidence.

So if you get 4 points on mental health and 4 points on the moving around, for physically difficulties as I do, whilst you get 8 points you will required to send in physical evidence of mobility issues.

Also there was a court case on it. It said people with mental health only were being discriminated against as they couldn't get a blue badge for various mental healths as others could with physical. The case was upheld

Regarding other mental health if you are classed with severe anxiety, panic attacks, agoraphobia and so on you can be awarded a blue badge depending on what happens during the episodes.

A person can become a danger to themselves and others depending on the scenario's
 
Warning: may create rage

You couldn't make this **** up

Governmental dept DWP have decided in the wake of all the wrong decisions they make which has been proven by courts, inquests etc that they are going to change the colour of their envelopes from brown to white, so people won't be so scared of it when it comes through the door.

I kid you freaking not! Its not the bloody colour of the envelope that terrifies them! Its the contents cos of all the wrong uncaring decision making, based on non qualified, uncaring, power crazy, stats and budgets performance based from the government down to the assessors

The stats overturned at appeal average 68%. Yes that's 68 in every hundred which shouldn't be in that position in the first place. That's not a few percent. That's two thirds of all claiments appeals

FYI: Unclaimed benefits and overpayments/fraud. Read carefully and let it sink in.

Unclaimed benefits: 22 billion a year

Over payments and fraud: 4 billion a year

That's 18 billion credit 🤔

Disclaimer: Not all assessors and D.M's are like this however they are few and far between that are good at what they do.

Assessors and DWP staff given two days training and a manual to go off and make decisions that fit in the DWP box. Newly employed are mainly under 25 do they can pay less in minimum wage.

Nothing changes, if nothing changes. Yes we live in a country where we have this however its all relative and the most vulnerable are paying the price for this government austerity and hitting the charities and vulnerable the hardest.

Watch out for white envelopes folks cos they going to make you feel better 🙄 It's a bit like Jacob Rees Mogg "Happy fish"

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/4342-dwp-makes-mockery-of-calls-for-change?utm_source
 
This was my first post in this thread. Feb 2013.


This country is becoming more evil by the year. The channel four show dispatches, Britain on benefits. Seriously, if you haven't seen it, try to get it on repeat or online catch up.

You may well be able bodied but it won't hurt you to see how the Tories are treating your less abled brothers and sisters. A marine, a hero, lost a leg in combat. At the medical he was asked to wiggle his toes. He doesn't have a leg ffs. ATOS, the agency being paid 390 million for this evil farce carried out this medical. Yes, you read that right, 390m.

Hang your evil head in shame Cameron.
 
ITV 7-30 PM "Tonight" which is also the name of the program

"Hidden disabilities: what's the truth?"

Worth a watch or/and catch up, on catch up TV
 
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