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Bit of Brexit info required.

in_the_top_one said:
You can start with anyone that hangs out with AfD, Trump or Steve Bannon.
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So which members of the ERG? Farage is not in the ERG, don't think Boris is, and as far as I'm aware Rees Mogg doesn't "hang out" with the AfD. Trump also happens to be the President of the USA, and though he is a nasty bloke, he is nothing compared to the Chinese leader, IRA terrorists etc and he represents 300 million US citizens, and unlike Juncker, Barnier, Tusk etc he was democratically elected.
 
Lienking said:
Trump also happens to be the President of the USA, and though he is a nasty bloke, he is nothing compared to the Chinese leader, IRA terrorists etc and he represents 300 million US citizens,
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I don't know what point you are trying to make with this. This is relativism. You can think of worse people so he isn't a fascist? He is.
 
toms said:
Dearie me. Crimea is practically Russian by population. The Europeans pumped a great deal of money into Ukraine to destabilise it. And having closer ties with Russia would be no bad thing geopolitically
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More far right nonsense from our resident card holder. Why is Crimea piratically Russian? Perhaps it has something to do with the Russian invading a few centuries ago. Before that it was definitely not Russian

Next you'll be saying the same about Estonia, Latvia, Poland to name a few are practically Russia.
 
toms said:
Dearie me. Crimea is practically Russian by population. The Europeans pumped a great deal of money into Ukraine to destabilise it. And having closer ties with Russia would be no bad thing geopolitically
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If the people in the Eastern side of the Ukraine wanted to become independent or return to being part of Russia, that's a matter for them.
Russia should abide by international law. They can't just annex a part of a sovereign state. Are you an apologist for Putin's aggression now? How can you justify this??
 
Who'd have thought our resident far right member would be a commie.

@toms: I suppose you can also blame the EU for the illegal Russian invasion of Georgia.
 
in_the_top_one said:
If the people in the Eastern side of the Ukraine wanted to become independent or return to being part of Russia, that's a matter for them.
Russia should abide by international law. They can't just annex a part of a sovereign state. Are you an apologist for Putin's aggression now? How can you justify this??
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I believe in self determination and that is what the people of Crimea voted for. I also feel the democratically elected Ukrainian pm was subverted which caused the issue in the first place.

On the other hand Bremen Salisbury was a disgusting act of aggression I don’t and can’t countenance.

Bremen I haven’t said anything that is far right in the least. Is advocating a national immigration policy far right? If so, please apply to Japan, australia, the Us, china and many other countries
 
in_the_top_one said:
What do you mean by this?
The EU had a very impressive track record of stabilising nations, not the other way around.
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#huge youth unemployment throughout the mediterranean

You really are an apologist for decline and mediocrity.

I see Uk unemployment fell again. Oh dear. Another awful nail in the coffin of project fear!! You must be devestated
 
in_the_top_one said:
He consistently uses words of war:
This is a surrender. This is the document of a nation that has been defeated in war. This is a war of the people against politicians. Etc.
He said he would have to pick up a rifle, ffs.
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And Lammy has used warlike connotations by using terms like worse than the nazis....

It quite clearly is Parliament and Bercow v the people. He is already stating what leavers and democratically aware remainers are saying and indeed what mps have said. I’m not aware of rifle comment. Context, how he put it? Will check for myself

Why don’t you admit you are so scared that he threatens your uber socialist paradise that you shake at the knees when he utters anything.
 
Bremen Tree said:
More far right nonsense from our resident card holder. Why is Crimea piratically Russian? Perhaps it has something to do with the Russian invading a few centuries ago. Before that it was definitely not Russian

Next you'll be saying the same about Estonia, Latvia, Poland to name a few are practically Russia.
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Might be worth having a discussion with the 90 odd percent of crimeans who wanted to be Russian and not part of the eu in the future
 
Bremen do you actually know what being far right is. I’d love you to properly define without some quite unintelligent throwaway comment about me... go on have a go.
 
Bremen Tree said:
Have you actually read the speech in full or just the few lines in the BBC article?

The speech is not overly racist but Franco and Brussels bashing. It seems that the AfD are now aiming their anger at the French.

Frau Weidel is a somewhat interesting character, who appears to hate all foreigners, apart from her film making Sri Lankan partner and their illegally employed Syrian refugee. Plus they live in Switzerland, presumably for tax reasons.

JRM should stay clear of any party that consistently toes the line with Putin, defends their invasion of Crimea and want closer tie to Russia and a less active role with NATO.
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The speech is not "overly" racist? It just isn't racist at all. Criticising France for it's failed policy of centralisation, which would be EU emperor Macron now wants to foist on the rest of the EU. Central army, centralized tax rates, EU finance minister, centralized economy, centralized debts (ie getting Germany to cover France's massive debts !).......
 
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