its a fact, it will never go away and i hate it as much as anyone else, i was running a pub in tipton, back in the early 90s, a bomb had gone off,
and a local mob, came in, one said the gaffers irish aint he, i thought i was in for it, but luckily i knew one of them, and i heard him say,,hes alright though and they went away, lucky because they had wrecked mad orourkes pie factory, just before. lifes full of ups and downs, you just have to get up and dust yer self down,,,seanie
This is absolutely correct in terms of sentiment but I don't buy this as a definition. I kind of see this as a scramble to redefine/ lighten an expression that is clearly quite incendiary. Sort of like how people try to redefine what 'defund the police' means because it's clearly not a palatable enough of a statement to get the message over.This is another one of those things Pangloss that I find gets misinterpreted by both sides. You don't need to be out in your daily life finding and eliminating racism. However, it is saying if you are sitting with a friend and they drop the N-word or do some sort of joke about Asian people's eyes then you speak up. A lot of people don't.
I know when people say actively fighting they do mean doing more than that too so I get it.
My issue with all this stuff is its either unrealistic or its like Telephone and the original idea deviates away from what was intended.
This is absolutely correct in terms of sentiment but I don't buy this as a definition. I kind of see this as a scramble to redefine/ lighten an expression that is clearly quite incendiary. Sort of like how people try to redefine what 'defund the police' means because it's clearly not a palatable enough of a statement to get the message over.
I think the expression of if you're not actively fighting racism you're complicit is unhelpful. It's bandied about a lot by people who are effectively left wing extremists.
This is really pot calling the kettle black isn't it.I am not a left wing extremist, and I use it. Your generalisation here is symptomatic of the problem. The way we feel the need t label everyone.
I got told to "take my **** kids and go back to Ireland" I just looked at the person as if they were mad.
This had come about as I had called my 3rd child name down the street which is clearly Irish.
I looked at her and said "I was born here, I'm not Irish. That's their dad. Has my children are half English half Irish how do you plan to do that? Chop them in half"
Another one where I worked said at coffee break said "they all need to go back to Ireland"
I said "really" she went bright red and said those words "I don't mean your family" I rolled my eyes and went back to work.
Loads of incidents like that. When the GG agreement was put in place it all died down. It them turned on Islam. Certain sections of society will always do hate
This is really pot calling the kettle black isn't it.
I see, so you are OK with racist tweet being posted? You think we shouldn't challenge this when we see it?
I didn't make a blanket claim, I said that expression is used by a lot of left wing extremists not that it is a term exclusive to them. This is quite simple comprehension.
You're not being censored at all, there's no need to get so insecure. From my perspective I simply took issue with the claim you made about not being active = complicit. Only CDX offered any sort of actual attempt to debate on that.
I don't exactly agree with Sil's points and I said that before but it's quite a reach to label him as a racist.
As this is the Royal Family Thread I thought I would post this in here.
Prince Harry and his wife Meghan are being paid a reported $100 million by Netflix to throw mud. Netflix expect a big return on their investment and even if it only borders on the truth they will include it because some of the mud will stick.
I dont have Netflix but if I did I certainly would not waste a few hours of my life watching such crap.
Fair enough, I was in the middle of responding but point taken. Going massively off piste given then intention of the thread.Yes, think the rest of the stuff, after nudges by both MF and me, can go to PM or anywhere else.
Thanks for putting it back on track Astonion.
So it's out of the realms of possibility that Harry (a grown man) can be controlled and manipulated? So coercive control is only when men do to women?None of this interests me at all. It's tabloid journalism. It also just gives ammunition to those misogynists that want to claim Meghan is leading Harry astray. He's a grown man, and quite capable of making his own decisions.
yes i was lucky that day, one of the guys played football for tipton town, who i was involved with at the time, but i had a great up bringlng in aston, which i am very grateful for and will never forget,,seanie
It's the same reason in the USA politics thread noone other than Biden lovers post there. Because anything negative towards biden just gets a bombardment of attacks
It's the same reason in the USA politics thread noone other than Biden lovers post there. Because anything negative towards biden just gets a bombardment of attacks by the chosen few.