I recall an interview with Evans last year where he said Scally refuses to take any debt on, Evans was constantly demanding the budget be increased but Scally stood firm so as not to risk the future of the club (and therefore his own income).
Harris: In or Out
- Thread starter Trashbat
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I share your pain. I'm the same vintage . Many times over the years I've told myself I don't care and that I don't need this misery in my life but somehow I never quite manage to stop caring. Its totally ridiculous, its just football but I guess you are stuck with the team you grew up with.
Sturdy Gill
Vital Squad Member
Too true
SE1_Gills
Vital 1st Team Regular
If you’re an investor, why would you put money into a club that’s at the bottom of the football league? It’s a risky move. If they exist I hope they aren’t tempted to sit on their cash until we are more stable.
that couple with it costing a fair few quid to sack the leadership team and hire a new manager
that couple with it costing a fair few quid to sack the leadership team and hire a new manager
Rob_b100
Vital 1st Team Regular
2 posts that sum up how I feel.
After 10 games I posted Harris in, just. But I felt improvement had to be made, just more organisation and a shot or two on goal in 90 minutes of football. We did show some improvement in the next couple of games but appear to have slipped back to woefully inept.
Today was the first game I’ve not seen this season but judging by early reports it was the same old mundane, pedestrian shit.
I am afraid it is just not good enough, people may say the quality isn’t there, but fuck me these are professional footballers, if they can’t muster a shot on target in 90 minutes for the umpteenth time then a change has to be made. And that change is the management team.
As Jerry says, we’re not expecting promotion, just a competent setup, tactics and 90 minutes where we actually look like troubling the keeper. I truly don’t know what the fuck the strikers do in training, probably washing the managements cars judging by what is served up on match days.
Harris out for me now.
GillsBluenose
Vital Football Hero
Fair enough, if the new manager can get rid of Harris's players and (eventually) those Evans signed on longer contracts, but otherwise I think the team is "set up" as well as it could be from an organisational point of view (Northampton who are third have conceded two more goals) and I am not sure what wrong tactics are being used.
It is so easy to think the only option is "change in the management team" but the replacement may be less organised so only result in us conceding more goals.
A pundit (possibly Agbonlahor) on Talksport was talking about Aston Villa today, further to Gerrard's sacking, and asked rhetorically why the players are never blamed. Things improving for them though with a 4-0 drubbing at Newcastle today. What were their tactics? The likes of Paisley and Clough always said it is a simple game, all about the quality of the players.
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Rob_b100
Vital 1st Team Regular
But since the start of the season the issue has been scoring goals. In fact, strike that, just creating some chances would be a start. Yet NH (as a prolific lower league striker) doesn’t seem to know how to fix it.
I’ve said time and again, these players may not be best we’ve seen in ME7, they may not even be NH’s preferred targets, but they are still professional footballers and if Harris can’t coach them and set them up to muster a shot on target in 90 minutes, then it’s time someone else was given the chance to.
I’d wager LSB, Nibbles and MarkinKent would at least test the opposition keeper given a couple of training sessions together and 90 minutes.
HerrLjunga
Vital 1st Team Regular
And not as a one off or even an occasional issue, virtually every single one of his 34 matches. And to say the previous management regime weren't up to it...wow, have a look at yourself mate.
The Derry Girl
Vital Reserves Team
Hmmm out after the fabled 10 games and out now 
DoctorEvil
Vital Reserves Team
So not just out then? Out outHmmm out after the fabled 10 games and out now
markinkent
Vital Football Hero
Current owner has disengaged and on a sabbatical. Why would he even consider borrowing money. He'll leave that to the new owners
Thats really interesting, could you share the source or link?
If thats accurate then honestly I can blame Harris, thats an awful playing budget and it cant be the original sales pitch
Im not sure that is the case. Things change in a few months and Scally wasn't planning to step away when Harris took over we know that much.
OneSirKeefy
Vital Football Hero
Lark posted it in the “disappointed in Harris” thread. A couple of websites about playing budgets. But to me they both sound way off the mark. Not doubting our budget this year is lower tho.
SteveTreacle
Vital 1st Team Regular
We still don’t know for sure whether the club is being sold and, if it is, when it will be sold. If PS is looking to sell and the club is as hard-up as made out. Maybe borrowing a small amount of money (which would be against the club not his own money) to get a new management team makes financial sense. Selling a club who’s 15th next year rather than rock bottom may fetch considerably more money than someone rock bottom looking at the NL.
jogills
Vital Football Hero
A small and unwelcome voice is getting louder inside my head. Perhaps whispers of it will be better soon and rumours of a rich American about to take over are just the BS of old about a new stadium, new investment etc. Perhaps we really are just in the shit. Other more positive voices are available.
wxgill
Vital 1st Team Regular
Apart from the salary PS takes each year, how does anybody make money out of a football club?
Unless you have mega tv money and sponsorships how do you make these pots of gold?
Even some of the premiership teams are millions in debt - how does that happen when they have such a vast income?
Why would anybody buy GFC UNLESS there IS a way of making some decent money?
PS100-200k is not exactly vast - is it?
Unless you have mega tv money and sponsorships how do you make these pots of gold?
Even some of the premiership teams are millions in debt - how does that happen when they have such a vast income?
Why would anybody buy GFC UNLESS there IS a way of making some decent money?
PS100-200k is not exactly vast - is it?
markinkent
Vital Football Hero
I cant imagine the clubs credit rating is great given financial events over the years. Finding someone to lend the money might be tough.
You are correct that we dont actually know that there will be a take over. Everything seems to be on that though. Seems unlikely scally will be back ready to charter a new course for the good ship gillingham fc.
Rob_b100
Vital 1st Team Regular
Looking at the poll we have 19 undecided and 11 Harris in.
Serious question to these that have voted in this way - what would change your mind to vote for NH out.
A defeat in the first round of the FA cup to Fylde?
A further 5 games of minimal attacking play and (if the quota continues) another 1, maybe 2 goals in those 5 games?
Actually dropping into the bottom 2?
All of which are a real possibility in the next few weeks,
Or would something else change your vote?
Serious question to these that have voted in this way - what would change your mind to vote for NH out.
A defeat in the first round of the FA cup to Fylde?
A further 5 games of minimal attacking play and (if the quota continues) another 1, maybe 2 goals in those 5 games?
Actually dropping into the bottom 2?
All of which are a real possibility in the next few weeks,
Or would something else change your vote?
