Cash seems to have made the step up pretty seamlessly and fair play to him.
TAA is the only one ahead of him on his recent showing.
Class player and some of the residents experts said he was shit CP, just as they do Yates, Grabban, Joe etc etc
TAA is the only one ahead of him on his recent showing.
Class player and some of the residents experts said he was shit CP, just as they do Yates, Grabban, Joe etc etc
Yates is a fantastic player and if we develop him right will be the next one we sell for big money.I rate Cash very highly, but come on, you can’t start putting Yates in the same bracket as Lolley or Grabban - he’s done absolutely nothing to merit being put in a bracket with those two.
I’m not dismissive of anybody but he’s been okay... long way to go before I’m convinced he’s our best option in the middle.
Did you pay for it?When sky realised they can milk more money out of this situation, cash is playing well made one really good last ditch challenge.
Yates is a fantastic player and if we develop him right will be the next one we sell for big money.
He will get even better alongside better players.
Some people only focus on when Grabban misses a chance; no doubt they would rate a striker higher if he wasn't good enough to get in position to miss in the first place. Perhaps the sort of people who would believe Trump's idea that if America didn't test so much they wouldn't have as many Covid cases.
Likewise, some only seem to focus on the times Yates misses a pass or the things he can't do (often stuff he's not even meant to be doing).
Yates has bad games and can be ineffective in some. Even I was hoping to see someone else in his spot at the end of last season because we needed people with a bit more attacking impact.
But he has come on even in these last three months and we look a better side with him in it
Totally agree. He is far, far away from being a fantastic footballer. Right now he is bang average. Like you I want to like and support him, and hope he develops. He is not worthy of a starting place, but I would rather him be around the squad and develop over Fred and Cafu types.Yates is a player I WANT to really like - combative, forest fan from the academy, but I just don’t really see what makes him a ‘fantastic’ player.
He works hard, he can make a good tackle no doubt, but I’m never particularly convinced by his positional sense, his passing for me isn’t particularly expansive and I think he gives away ridiculous fouls that don’t need to be committed as a result of being slow.
He’s not disciplined enough to be the main holding man, he’s not expansive enough to dictate the midfield and he’s not skillful enough to be a serious attacking threat (although he can grab the odd goal to be fair), so I genuinely couldn’t say we’re a better team with him in it.
Is there a player in there? Yes of course and I certainly haven’t written him off, but I really think he has a long way to go before I believe he can be core player in a promotion chasing team.... in my opinion of course!
No, paid the odd £10 for a forest game but no way is anyone paying £15 to watch two sides they don't support.Did you pay for it?
Must have missed something.
When do we have to name our 25 by?
There's a middle ground between fantastic and not worth his place in the team.
He's our highest rated player this season. Confortably the most successful tackler in the side. Solid pass rate, good interception rate, good clearance rate. He even offers a little going forward.
He has limitations but right now he's comfortably outperforming Colback for instance. He absolutely deserves to be alongside Arter as our central 2.
Most of the negative comments being aimed at Yates now were being aimed at John McGovern 40 odd years ago, and he didn't do too badly for us & indeed others. Both he & Brian Clough knew he wasn't the most gifted technically, but still a vital cog in the team. I believe Clough used to tell him it was his job to win the ball then give it to someone who could be more creative.
Please get off Yates' back and give him chance to develop, he is still learning and will have poorer games