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Bollocks.
Then where the fuck are they?
Bollocks.
Almost 800 posts on the managerial position and it's noteworthy that all the apologists who were fighting to keep him in post have now buggered off to a dark corner now the consequences of that decision are a very close reality.
What exactly would you like me to say MiW? I've given my version of what's happened in recent games - including last night - and I'll acknowledge that Cook holds some of the blame for our position....... as do the team as a whole, and specifically, a few individuals.Then where the fuck are they?
What exactly would you like me to say MiW? I've given my version of what's happened in recent games - including last night - and I'll acknowledge that Cook holds some of the blame for our position....... as do the team as a whole, and specifically, a few individuals.
Taking the lead against Reading, Bristol, Derby, and Hull means we're doing summat right. Unfortunately, the fact we've only got one point from those games may be down to a number or reasons.
Bottle? Belief? Fright? Nerves? Complacency? Amateurism? Laziness? Uncertainty?
Maybe some of those can be down to the Manager........ but others are a little more intangible.
Cooks sending his team out to win. That's patently obvious by us taking the lead so often. However, mistakes let the opposition back in, and then these additional factors come into play.
Just thought. I interpreted your response as "where are the bollocks?"!!!........ I now suspect you meant "where are his defenders?"
I'll still be here mate.
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........ Yet on the other side of the coin - last night Reading score in the 97th min- attributed perhaps to belief n determination where perhaps our players mentality towards the end of games are focused on a nice hot shower!!!!
Almost 800 posts on the managerial position and it's noteworthy that all the apologists who were fighting to keep him in post have now buggered off to a dark corner now the consequences of that decision are a very close reality.
It's not a dark corner that we buggered off too, it was the likes of Bristol and Hull, you should try going to some of these places and then realise that's why we don't spend all our time on here!Almost 800 posts on the managerial position and it's noteworthy that all the apologists who were fighting to keep him in post have now buggered off to a dark corner now the consequences of that decision are a very close reality.
It's not a dark corner that we buggered off too, it was the likes of Bristol and Hull, you should try going to some of these places and then realise that's why we don't spend all our time on here!
............ If we would've went on results and performances we'd have got rid of Marinez in his first season but he somehow managed to keep us up 3 years and win the FA Cup despite being garbage the vast majority of the time over those 4 years -.............
....... No doubt that you'll return waving the Pom Poms and banging the tambourines when someone new is installed in the summer to manage us in league 1......
No need MiW. No need. Makes you sound like Whitty.
It's not blind faith ........ it's just not wanting to change things every bloody time summat goes wrong.There is a need. They need to understand the consequences of this blind faith and not keep repeating it.
KDZ, you've posted some excellent posts on here, so I'll give you credit for them,......... but this is not one of your better ones.
Given our budget, compared to that of most of the rest of the league, just what did you expect when we were in the Premier league? Neither Jewell nor Bruce sought to establish long term foundations re club development. Martinez endeavoured to put that long term strategy in place ....... but didn't have a massive budget for players ..... especially after Bruce spent it all !
The illuminating thing though, is that your endearing memory of his tenure here is "garbage" ........... whereas mine is
a) beating all of the "top 6"
b) that amazing run where we played probably the best football ever played by any Tics side, ever ................ and of course .....
c) that day in May.
I don't know what you expected KDZ, but he exceeded all of mine.
It's not blind faith ........ it's just not wanting to change things every bloody time summat goes wrong.
To repeat the act of sacking a Manager who's just got us promoted would have been daft. Maybe in in hindsight, it might seem the right thing to do ......... just like in hindsight, maybe it was the wrong thing to do the first time round ....... and that's not to even mention Rosler !
Is your life so empty that you need someone to argue with. I know what you're like you'll go over the same ground time after time just for the sake if it. I think you're one if those people that thinks if you have the last word it means you've been proved right.
My last post on this subject was that I would keep him because the club needs continuity. I don't know the figures but I suspect there were over 100 players moved either in or out of the club in 2 years because of constant changing. That is madness.
The reason this supposed Happy Clapper hasn't posted isn't because he's been hiding away. Its because his view hasn't changed. You may feel the need to constantly repeat things as a means of self justification. I don't. I know you'll try your best to stretch this argument out but not with me you won't. You know my position. If it changes I'll say.
Until it does don't be so mouthy and arrogant as to presume I've crawled under a stone somewhere to hide.
KDZ ..... budget ......expectations ........ ???
I understand (and agree with) the terrible (harsh?) and mediocre aspects - though disagree with the percentages - but it just goes to show how a premature sacking might be the wrong thing to do. After all, if he'd have gone when you say, then we wouldn't have seen any of the exceptional stuff.
Checkmate.