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And the government has purposely placed asylum seekers where they will have the most impact on local people and do nothing to counter the lies perpetuated by Patriotic Alternative. In fact, Sewer Braverman parrots those lies. It is done to divide and encourage hate, as that is the only way that Tories can see to minimise their losses at the next election. There never has been a more base base.
 
bristolimp said:
a lot of words - i am not going to respond beyond saying I do not agree and that I am saddened that people I share a country with have these views.
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Sounds to me like one of us recognises that the prosperous UK has a moral and legal obligation to support genuine asylum seekers through well funded and managed official schemes which mitigate for the maintenance and non disruption of services to existing citizens and communities.

It also sounds like one of us is supportive of an anarchic, criminal free for all which funds people trafficing, manslaughter, child abuse, sex slaves and includes bogus asylum claims from some criminals and economic migrants, whilst simultaneously being dismissive of the genuine concerns of existing citizens and communities.

I agree that I am saddened that people I share a country with have the views of the latter.
 
hulloutpost said:
Sounds to me like one of us recognises that the prosperous UK has a moral and legal obligation to support genuine asylum seekers through well funded and managed official schemes which mitigate for the maintenance and non disruption of services to existing citizens and communities.

It also sounds like one of us is supportive of an anarchic, criminal free for all which funds people trafficing, manslaughter, child abuse, sex slaves and includes bogus asylum claims from some criminals and economic migrants, whilst simultaneously being dismissive of the genuine concerns of existing citizens and communities.

I agree that I am saddened that people I share a country with have the views of the latter.
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impede said:
Entered illegally because this racist, neo-fascist government made it impossible for them to claim asylum legally. You conveniently forgot that huge fact, I see.
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Perhaps you think it should be a free for all and the world would live in perfect harmony if everybody could do what they want, go wherever they want, whenever they want and there would be no significant down sides or repercussions. If so, I can see where you personally are coming from although I'm not sure that preventing unknown people entering a country willy nilly is neo fascism by definition. I would have thought preventing people leaving a country (perhaps that is communism:unsure:) or invading other peoples countries is more fascist; I digress.

Anyway, the government doesn't make it impossible for needy refugees, it does it's bit in this worldwide problem and is but one of dozens of other countries that each take a share of the different factions within the asylum/refugee categories. You can argue whether the UK does enough, where the budget should be set, could the systems be improved, but to say it makes it impossible is factually incorrect and a wild socialist trope.

For example:


Existing safe and legal routes to the UK
The boundaries between UK refugee resettlement schemes and other lawful routes have blurred. For example, calculations of the number of people “offered refuge” in the UK sometimes include people coming through routes that do not assess individuals’ needs for protection.

The UK currently operates several safe and legal immigration routes:

  • The UK Resettlement Scheme, Community Sponsorship, and the Mandate Scheme are refugee resettlement programmes.
  • Refugee family reunion visas are available to people who were immediate relatives of people granted refuge in the UK, before they left their country of origin (known as pre-flight relatives).
  • Nationality-specific bespoke immigration routes are available to some Afghans, Ukrainians, and people from Hong Kong.
Each route has eligibility criteria and conditions attached to the permission to stay. Not all the routes give beneficiaries refugee status and the associated rights and entitlements specified in the 1951 Refugee Convention.
 
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hulloutpost said:
It also sounds like one of us is supportive of an anarchic, criminal free for all which funds people trafficing, manslaughter, child abuse, sex slaves and includes bogus asylum claims from some criminals and economic migrants, whilst simultaneously being dismissive of the genuine concerns of existing citizens and communities.
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Everybody take back their assertion that he reads all his opnions in the Daily Heil. He also reads them in leaflets produced by Patriotic Alternative.
 
hulloutpost said:
Oooh a death threat, I am so triggered I must immediately go crying to the over stretched police so I can divert them even further them from the investigation of crimes like burglary and domestic assault. :ROFLMAO:
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no I have stabbed my self in the head rather then respond.
 
impede said:
And the government has purposely placed asylum seekers where they will have the most impact on local people and do nothing to counter the lies perpetuated by Patriotic Alternative. In fact, Sewer Braverman parrots those lies. It is done to divide and encourage hate, as that is the only way that Tories can see to minimise their losses at the next election. There never has been a more base base.
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It's all about the base, all about the base, no worries.

It could be worth looking into your point about refugee placements. I had assumed the centres were all in welcoming communities overwhelmingly populated by Guardian readers. Perhaps I was wrong.
 
impede said:
Everybody take back their assertion that he reads all his opnions in the Daily Heil. He also reads them in leaflets produced by Patriotic Alternative.
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I'd never heard of Patriotic Alternative, thanks for the heads up I will check them out :rofl:

Edit - I hope you are not doing your bit for spreading the 'extremist message' Impede. Have you ever considered starving extremist groups of oxygen and publicity rather than wetting your knickers over them, might be more effective in shutting down their 'words are violence'.
 
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Sorry to all those I have triggered through reasoned argument and fact based discussion regarding the complex and difficult, international subject of asylum and immigration.

I am currently working on developing a more extreme, emotional, subjective and feelings based approach, so I can better fit in with the 'current thing' (and only acceptable) thinking that must be unquestioningly adhered to.
 
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hulloutpost said:
Sorry to all those I have triggered through reasoned argument and fact based discussion regarding the complex and difficult, international subject of asylum and immigration.

I am currently working on developing a more extreme, emotional, subjective and feelings based approach, so I can better fit in with the current thing (and only acceptable) thinking that must be unquestioningly adhered to.
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I must applaud your dealer, he has obviously got you a strong blend this week!
 
hulloutpost said:
Sorry to all those I have triggered through reasoned argument and fact based discussion regarding the complex and difficult, international subject of asylum and immigration.

I am currently working on developing a more extreme, emotional, subjective and feelings based approach, so I can better fit in with the 'current thing' (and only acceptable) thinking that must be unquestioningly adhered to.
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*sigh*
 
Sincilbanks said:
Even part-time politician and full time idiot Nigel Farage disagrees with Hulloutpost

https://twitter.com/x/status/1637557996518604800
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Ah well Nige, probably the sort of outraged response the bed wetters were hoping for. Shouldn't really have fallen for that me old China.

The history, bravery and iconic status associated with Scampton is enshrined in lore and won't be affected by it's temporary sensible modern use.

What's that I hear........ Rwanda accommodation good to go...........Human Rights about to be signed off by the ECHR...........is that the sound of jet engines warming up on Scampton runway............oh it all begins to fall into place and make sense now 🛫
 
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