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LyttleByLyttle - 13/3/2018 19:54

Climate change is obvs fake news.
Scientists have the biggest fake news, the best fake news, really terrific. Everybody tells us how great our fake news is.
We're going to have the best climate change, record breaking. We'll displace more people than have ever been displaced. Hundreds of times more people.
We're going to spend billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars. Dollars like you wouldn't believe. And the ice caps are going to pay for it.
 
If the globe warms up then we just turn the a/c down a bit.

Dont know what all the fuss is about.
 
I keep reading through to the end of the thread hoping to see Bos and itto in full rip but all I keep getting is Sponsored telling me about roadcycling in Utah, and then trying to check the Championship tables there are ads down each side of the table obscuring some of the detail.
It's beginning to get annoying.

Any of you getting the same or is it just confined to Oz ?

 
I appreciate that this will most probably provoke an avalanche of mock indignation, but I couldn't help but notice that the launch of the Snowflake Railcard was so successful that it buggered the website up.

If, as I am led to believe, this generation are so impoverished because they cannot find work and have huge Student Loans to pay off, how are they managing to afford them?

Why does the qualification age stop at 30?

If you stop being a Snowflake at 30, what are the generation aged 31 through to the coffin dodging Baby Boomers called?
 
mao tse tung - 14/3/2018 08:44


If you stop being a Snowflake at 30, what are the generation aged 31 through to the coffin dodging Baby Boomers called?

Don't know what it's called but it's my generation.

In summary, we can see where we've come from and where we're going.

We have supreme clarity of thought, maturity of intellect and engage in debate with upmost objectivity.


:32: :67:
 
paplane - 14/3/2018 09:29

mao tse tung - 14/3/2018 08:44


If you stop being a Snowflake at 30, what are the generation aged 31 through to the coffin dodging Baby Boomers called?

Don't know what it's called but it's my generation.

In summary, we can see where we've come from and where we're going.

We have supreme clarity of thought, maturity of intellect and engage in debate with upmost objectivity.


:32: :67:

We also write the fooking tax cheques that pay for the railcards the snowflakes use to go on birthday weekends in Newcastle with a mate they once lived with at Uni.
 
paplane - 14/3/2018 09:32

paplane - 14/3/2018 09:29

mao tse tung - 14/3/2018 08:44


If you stop being a Snowflake at 30, what are the generation aged 31 through to the coffin dodging Baby Boomers called?

Don't know what it's called but it's my generation.

In summary, we can see where we've come from and where we're going.

We have supreme clarity of thought, maturity of intellect and engage in debate with upmost objectivity.


:32: :67:

We also write the fooking tax cheques that pay for the railcards the snowflakes use to go on birthday weekends in Newcastle with a mate they once lived with at Uni.

I think we are currently being called either the squeezed middle or just about making it (a rather ironic acronymn in jami as they r anything but).

Back in the day I think we were called ordinary people but no one wants to be one those nowadays.

 
in_the_top_one - 13/3/2018 15:33

I'm still waiting to hear your conclusion on whether or not the holocaust happened?


ffs.

Not denying many people died and suffered horribly at the German workcamps but debating on how they were killed, as posted below there is little evidence that the supposed gas chambers existed, could it be lack of food supply that accounted for there sufferings?

Maybe they need the food for high ranking Jews in Hitlers army?


INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW

An Orthodox Historian Finally Acknowledges:
There is No Evidence for Nazi Gas Chambers

Born in 1939, Jacques Baynac is a French historian who is the author of several books.1 A scholar whose sympathies lean to the left, he harbors a definite hostility toward revisionists (whom he calls "deniers"), and particularly toward revisionist writer and publisher Pierre Guillaume and myself. For years he affirmed the existence of Nazi homicidal gas chambers.

In 1996, though, Baynac acknowledged in two lengthy articles published in a Swiss daily newspaper that, taking everything into account, one is forced to admit -- even if it is "as painful to say as it is to hear" -- that the well-known "testimonies" are not sufficient proof of wartime homicidal gas chambers, and that it is simply not possible to prove, scientifically, that the homicidal gas chambers actually existed.

Given this lack of any direct proof, he continued, it will now be necessary to seek an indirect proof. Because one cannot prove that Nazi gas chambers existed, he goes on to write, it will instead be necessary to prove that it is impossible that they did not exist! Specifically, he writes: "If scholarly history cannot, because of the lack of documentation, establish the reality of a fact, it can, by means of documentation, establish that the unreality of this fact is itself unreal." 2

Baynac made these remarkable statements in two lengthy articles published in the Swiss newspaper Le Nouveau Quotidien de Lausanne, September 2, 1996 (p. 16), and September 3, 1996 (p. 14)
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n4p24_Faurisson.html


Jewish Senior Officers In Hitlers Army: Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called full Jews served in the German military with Adolf Hitlers knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler soldiers, including two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals), men commanding up to 100,000 troops.

Here's one of the pictures that corroborates this. The picture shows Jewish Senior Officers In Hitlers Army: Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs during a Nazi rally in Nuremberg, Germany, 12 Sep 1938.

<img src="https://rafzen.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/jewishs-nazi.jpg" alt="Flowers in Chania">

https://rafzen.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/jewish-senior-officers-in-hitlers-army-erhard-milch-wilhelm-keitel-walther-von-brauchitsch-erich-raeder-and-maximilian-von-weichs/


btw I aint been on off topic for a while , did you ever manage to post one of your snaps of ISS :3:
 
AdebolaCornflakes - 13/3/2018 13:41

Is it true that the real Paul McCartney died aged 17 and they replaced him with a look-a-like?

Some people been asking the same question about Stephen Hawking, still they certainly got good milage out of him, I wonder who NASA going to get as there main PR man?
 
orbitalforest - 13/3/2018 19:49

I see Boz is ranting again .
Absolute fruit loop.
Unbelievable Jeff . :59:

Just putting out there Orbs, up to folks to decide what to believe, what your governing politicians tell you or ordinary folk trying to get the truth out.

Here's a good read and the bloke offers $100 to any one finding factual fault in what's written

Here's a snippet.....

ADOLF HITLER: MAN OF PEACE?

http://www.tomatobubble.com/id570.html

Adolf Hitler's numerous, and reasonable, offers of peace to the Allied powers are a matter of indisputable historical record. Establishment 'Court Historians' cannot deny the reality of these reasonable offers, so they choose to simply ignore them instead.

If the truth of Hitler's pleas for peace were to become widely known, it would stand the conventional narrative of World War II (and subsequent events) on its head. Consider the following true statements and events, and decide for yourself who the?"aggressor" behind World War II really was.


as attacks against Germans living in Poland escalate, Hitler proposes that the region be placed under International control. Every German proposal is ignored. We now know that, behind the scenes, US President Roosevelt had been pressuring Poland to not make any deals with Germany.

LATE AUGUST - SEPTEMBER 1939?
?In?11th hour attempt to avert war, Hitler calls for emergency talks between Germany and Poland
.
Just three days before the actual outbreak of what was to become World War II, Britain agrees to come to the Poland's assistance in the event of a conflict with Germany. (Anglo Polish Military Alliance) This unecessary deal emboldens the Polish and Jewish militias who want the West to wage war upon Germany. To force Hitler's hand, terrorists begin murdering German civilians in large numbers. A British ex-Pat named William Joyce describes the events:

"On the nights of August 25 to August 31 inclusive, there occurred, besides innumerable attacks on civilians of German blood, 44 perfectly authenticated acts of armed violence against German official persons and property. These incidents took place either on the border or inside German territory.

On the night of August 31, a band of Polish desperadoes actually occupied the German Broadcasting Station at Gleiwitz. Now it was clear that unless German troops marched at once, not a man, woman or child of German blood within the Polish territory could reasonably expect to avoid persecution and slaughter."
?
And yet, just prior to ordering the invasion of Poland (September 1, 1939), Hitler is still trying to resolve the situation peacefully by summoning the Polish Foreign Minister for talks. Unbeknown to Hitler, the fix was already in. After the 3 week German-Polish War ends in victory for the Germans, Hitler declares:
.
"I attempted to find a tolerable solution. I submitted this attempt to the Polish rulers. You know these proposals. They were more than moderate. I do not know what mental condition the Polish Government was in when it refused these proposals. As an answer, Poland gave the order for the first mobilization, and my request to the Polish Foreign Minister to visit me to discuss these questions was refused. Instead of going to Berlin, he went to London.










 
boszi - 14/3/2018 09:33

orbitalforest - 13/3/2018 19:49

I see Boz is ranting again .
Absolute fruit loop.
Unbelievable Jeff . :59:

Just putting out there Orbs, up to folks to decide what to believe, what your governing politicians tell you or ordinary folk trying to get the truth out.

Here's a good read and the bloke offers $100 to any one finding factual fault in what's written

Here's a snippet.....

ADOLF HITLER: MAN OF PEACE?

http://www.tomatobubble.com/id570.html

Adolf Hitler's numerous, and reasonable, offers of peace to the Allied powers are a matter of indisputable historical record. Establishment 'Court Historians' cannot deny the reality of these reasonable offers, so they choose to simply ignore them instead.

If the truth of Hitler's pleas for peace were to become widely known, it would stand the conventional narrative of World War II (and subsequent events) on its head. Consider the following true statements and events, and decide for yourself who the?"aggressor" behind World War II really was.


as attacks against Germans living in Poland escalate, Hitler proposes that the region be placed under International control. Every German proposal is ignored. We now know that, behind the scenes, US President Roosevelt had been pressuring Poland to not make any deals with Germany.

LATE AUGUST - SEPTEMBER 1939?
?In?11th hour attempt to avert war, Hitler calls for emergency talks between Germany and Poland
.
Just three days before the actual outbreak of what was to become World War II, Britain agrees to come to the Poland's assistance in the event of a conflict with Germany. (Anglo Polish Military Alliance) This unecessary deal emboldens the Polish and Jewish militias who want the West to wage war upon Germany. To force Hitler's hand, terrorists begin murdering German civilians in large numbers. A British ex-Pat named William Joyce describes the events:

"On the nights of August 25 to August 31 inclusive, there occurred, besides innumerable attacks on civilians of German blood, 44 perfectly authenticated acts of armed violence against German official persons and property. These incidents took place either on the border or inside German territory.

On the night of August 31, a band of Polish desperadoes actually occupied the German Broadcasting Station at Gleiwitz. Now it was clear that unless German troops marched at once, not a man, woman or child of German blood within the Polish territory could reasonably expect to avoid persecution and slaughter."
?
And yet, just prior to ordering the invasion of Poland (September 1, 1939), Hitler is still trying to resolve the situation peacefully by summoning the Polish Foreign Minister for talks. Unbeknown to Hitler, the fix was already in. After the 3 week German-Polish War ends in victory for the Germans, Hitler declares:
.
"I attempted to find a tolerable solution. I submitted this attempt to the Polish rulers. You know these proposals. They were more than moderate. I do not know what mental condition the Polish Government was in when it refused these proposals. As an answer, Poland gave the order for the first mobilization, and my request to the Polish Foreign Minister to visit me to discuss these questions was refused. Instead of going to Berlin, he went to London.

Ok this is just getting stupid now. I couldn't even read through the entire post. Bosi do a google search on zyklon b or google pictures from the Auschwitz Gas Chambers and see the scratches in the cement from the peoples hands who were in those chambers.

This is pretty much and unmoderated forum and we let most things go and I am going to leave this so everyone can see how stupid you are. Put another post like this out here and I will ban you until hell freezes over. If you got a problem with me or my respnose you can talk to OKD, Vital Mgmt or Jesus H. Christ himself for all I really fooking care
 
boszi - 14/3/2018 13:35

in_the_top_one - 13/3/2018 15:33

I'm still waiting to hear your conclusion on whether or not the holocaust happened?


ffs.

Not denying many people died and suffered horribly at the German workcamps but debating on how they were killed, as posted below there is little evidence that the supposed gas chambers existed, could it be lack of food supply that accounted for there sufferings?

Maybe they need the food for high ranking Jews in Hitlers army?


INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW

An Orthodox Historian Finally Acknowledges:
There is No Evidence for Nazi Gas Chambers

Born in 1939, Jacques Baynac is a French historian who is the author of several books.1 A scholar whose sympathies lean to the left, he harbors a definite hostility toward revisionists (whom he calls "deniers"), and particularly toward revisionist writer and publisher Pierre Guillaume and myself. For years he affirmed the existence of Nazi homicidal gas chambers.

In 1996, though, Baynac acknowledged in two lengthy articles published in a Swiss daily newspaper that, taking everything into account, one is forced to admit -- even if it is "as painful to say as it is to hear" -- that the well-known "testimonies" are not sufficient proof of wartime homicidal gas chambers, and that it is simply not possible to prove, scientifically, that the homicidal gas chambers actually existed.

Given this lack of any direct proof, he continued, it will now be necessary to seek an indirect proof. Because one cannot prove that Nazi gas chambers existed, he goes on to write, it will instead be necessary to prove that it is impossible that they did not exist! Specifically, he writes: "If scholarly history cannot, because of the lack of documentation, establish the reality of a fact, it can, by means of documentation, establish that the unreality of this fact is itself unreal." 2

Baynac made these remarkable statements in two lengthy articles published in the Swiss newspaper Le Nouveau Quotidien de Lausanne, September 2, 1996 (p. 16), and September 3, 1996 (p. 14)
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n4p24_Faurisson.html


Jewish Senior Officers In Hitlers Army: Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called full Jews served in the German military with Adolf Hitlers knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler soldiers, including two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals), men commanding up to 100,000 troops.

Here's one of the pictures that corroborates this. The picture shows Jewish Senior Officers In Hitlers Army: Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs during a Nazi rally in Nuremberg, Germany, 12 Sep 1938.

<img src="https://rafzen.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/jewishs-nazi.jpg" alt="Flowers in Chania">

https://rafzen.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/jewish-senior-officers-in-hitlers-army-erhard-milch-wilhelm-keitel-walther-von-brauchitsch-erich-raeder-and-maximilian-von-weichs/


btw I aint been on off topic for a while , did you ever manage to post one of your snaps of ISS :3:

I think most people realize that both sides in WW2 were made up of personnel from many different countries and faiths, therefore it's not unsurprising that there were some 'Jewish' members of the Nazi party. I suspect it was only in name, propaganda I believe is the term.

As for the Death Camps, my eldest son was an Auschwitz Ambassador for a number of years, visiting many times. He is quite clear what happened there.
As a suggestion, rather than relying on third party information, why not visit the place see for yourself, and then make a judgement. I suspect you will have a different opinion if you do. It's like nowhere else I have ever been too.
By the way we are not a Jewish family either, that place goes beyond religion.

Regarding the ISS, well it's easy to see it pass over right here in Nottinghamshire, here's the passes for the next few days.

https://spotthestation.nasa.gov/sightings/view.cfm?country=United_Kingdom®ion=England&city=Nottingham#.Wqku6tHLehA

You can't miss it, and it's easy to photograph if you want, just don't expect detail.....something to do with pixels, or the lack of them I believe.

I appreciate that you believe that space flight is a hoax.

I often work in Florida near Titusville, so have seen numerous rocket and Shuttle launches. If those have all been fake, I would suggest that the powers that be have chosen a very elaborate ways to trick the public, and for what purpose?

One mission In particular I had the pleasure of being out there for the STS121 Return to Flight Mission of the shuttles.
Discovery was on Pad 39B for quite a while before launch, clearly visible to the KSC visitors, or those on Playlinda Beach. You could even get up close until a few days before she went.

I watched her launch, after which the pad was empty, a devilishly good trick if it's not a flying rocket, how would/could they do that?
It takes quite a while for a launching rocket to be out of view of the Cape, because it's obviously very bright, but also very high and climbing, it doesn't just drop behind the horizon like a normal commercial plane. It is obviously a completely different flight profile to earth bound traffic.

Twelve days later I watched her land, back at the KSC, clearly 'flying' as she passed very quickly overhead as she came in. No engines just one attempt to get it right, so it requires a complex and precise set of commands and positionings to get the flight path correct to achieve this.

A few hours later I got to see her being dragged off of the runway back to the Orbitor Processing Centre, very battered and scorched.

Now I understand that Discovery had been to the ISS on this mission. If, as you suggest that doesn't exist, can you give a rationale explanation as to where 121000kgs (at launch) of machinery had been hanging around for the 12 days between launch and landing, because I saw it go up and disappear out of The Atlantic and I cleary saw it come back down. Discovery obviously went somewhere and saw some serious action in that time.

For all those that don't believe this is some giant hoax by NASA and the various governments can I recommend Shiloh's Steak and Seafood Bar or New York New York Bar both in Titusville as being great places to witness a launch if you get the chance.

On topic now, did anyone else get kettled up by the police at the bottom of the steps of Ladybay Bridge on Sunday?
Apparently it's bad to say nasty things to Derby fans, but it's OK for them to spit, throw bottles and coins and other things down on to Forest fans held by Notts police with no reprisals.
Maybe the police should head back to crowd control school.





 
Boszi

okay just one thing (I bet the $100 has already been claimed)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

this is my waste of ten seconds replying to a foolish person. Thanks Wikipedia. There are sources etc at the foot of the page. "Polish desperadoes" my arsenal.
Did you miss out on a formal education or something?
 
part of war fare is spread of misinformation. Hitler spread the idea of the jewish army as propaganda and named the said generals to be of Jewish origin to save his own neck late in the war. 77 named jewish personnel against millions gassed (all verifiable, recorded in records on film and of returning British vets).

Problem is someone will read this tripe and may just question reality.

Can we get back to more important things like Football.