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Having worked alongside Holocaust survivors during two stints working on a Kibbutz in the mid 90's i find your posts sickening Boszi.
Try a visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem and see if you still have your warped views afterwards.
And no i'm not Jewish and couldn't give a fook about any religion as it happens.
This is real people i'm talking about , i used to be a labourer for a lovely little Hungarian bloke called Catan fixing pipes and doing general maintenance , he lost his whole family during the holocaust , mum & dad , brothers and sisters , seven in total , he was 14 years old at the end of the war having gone through all that.
I think the holocaust was pretty real to him.

You are a waste of blood .

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orbitalforest - 14/3/2018 20:01

Having worked alongside Holocaust survivors during two stints working on a Kibbutz in the mid 90's i find your posts sickening Boszi.
Try a visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem and see if you still have your warped views afterwards.
You are a waste of blood.

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Ignore him he’s an idiot & he won’t listen. Know someone who was part of the British Army that liberated Belsen & I cannot express the insult I feel from people implying or accusing those people of lying.
 
Woanz - 14/3/2018 20:04

orbitalforest - 14/3/2018 20:01

Having worked alongside Holocaust survivors during two stints working on a Kibbutz in the mid 90's i find your posts sickening Boszi.
Try a visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem and see if you still have your warped views afterwards.
You are a waste of blood.

:21:

Ignore him he’s an idiot & he won’t listen. Know someone who was part of the British Army that liberated Belsen & I cannot express the insult I feel from people implying or accusing those people of lying.

I know mate it's piss poor.
 
boszi - 14/3/2018 13:35

in_the_top_one - 13/3/2018 15:33

I'm still waiting to hear your conclusion on whether or not the holocaust happened?


ffs.

Not denying many people died and suffered horribly at the German workcamps but debating on how they were killed, as posted below there is little evidence that the supposed gas chambers existed, could it be lack of food supply that accounted for there sufferings?

Maybe they need the food for high ranking Jews in Hitlers army?


INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW

An Orthodox Historian Finally Acknowledges:
There is No Evidence for Nazi Gas Chambers

Born in 1939, Jacques Baynac is a French historian who is the author of several books.1 A scholar whose sympathies lean to the left, he harbors a definite hostility toward revisionists (whom he calls "deniers"), and particularly toward revisionist writer and publisher Pierre Guillaume and myself. For years he affirmed the existence of Nazi homicidal gas chambers.

In 1996, though, Baynac acknowledged in two lengthy articles published in a Swiss daily newspaper that, taking everything into account, one is forced to admit -- even if it is "as painful to say as it is to hear" -- that the well-known "testimonies" are not sufficient proof of wartime homicidal gas chambers, and that it is simply not possible to prove, scientifically, that the homicidal gas chambers actually existed.

Given this lack of any direct proof, he continued, it will now be necessary to seek an indirect proof. Because one cannot prove that Nazi gas chambers existed, he goes on to write, it will instead be necessary to prove that it is impossible that they did not exist! Specifically, he writes: "If scholarly history cannot, because of the lack of documentation, establish the reality of a fact, it can, by means of documentation, establish that the unreality of this fact is itself unreal." 2

Baynac made these remarkable statements in two lengthy articles published in the Swiss newspaper Le Nouveau Quotidien de Lausanne, September 2, 1996 (p. 16), and September 3, 1996 (p. 14)
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n4p24_Faurisson.html


Jewish Senior Officers In Hitlers Army: Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called full Jews served in the German military with Adolf Hitlers knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler soldiers, including two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals), men commanding up to 100,000 troops.

Here's one of the pictures that corroborates this. The picture shows Jewish Senior Officers In Hitlers Army: Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs during a Nazi rally in Nuremberg, Germany, 12 Sep 1938.

<img src="https://rafzen.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/jewishs-nazi.jpg" alt="Flowers in Chania">

https://rafzen.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/jewish-senior-officers-in-hitlers-army-erhard-milch-wilhelm-keitel-walther-von-brauchitsch-erich-raeder-and-maximilian-von-weichs/


btw I aint been on off topic for a while , did you ever manage to post one of your snaps of ISS :3:

Have you ever been to Auschwitz?

I have- four times.

What do you imagine the slats in the ceilings of the gas chambers were for? Out of interest?

Given that those rooms had no running water and were linked by a door to a crematorium? What about the room that is full of empty cans of Zyklon B? What do you imagine those were being used for? Because it would need to be a rat infestation on a continental scale to need the thousands of cans I saw.

How are you explaining the hundreds of transports that are fully documented as having visited the Operation Reinhard camps (Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor) in 1943, full of people, and then left with no one? Where do you imagine those people went?

Something in the region of 1.2 million are documented 'visiting' Treblinka in 1943. Look at a map of the place. Look at the barracks. There aren't any. There is room for less than a hundred prisoners - sonderkommando in other words. These were not work camps. There was no work to do and nowhere to stay.

Where then did those 1.2 million go if they didn't leave but there was no capacity for them to stay?

Auschwitz actually was the one you wanted to go to if you were sent to a death camp as you had a chance of survival if you went in 1944 at least. The others you had no chance. And yet 1.5 million at least died in Auschwitz. And you think they all starved to death?

It is well known and we'll documented that the Nazis learned the use of gas chambers on disabled German children. Children like my little boy were taken from their parents under the cover of getting the best medical treatment and put terrified into the back of a van and then gassed over the course of half an hour with its own diesel fumes. This started because a father wrote to Hitler personally asking for permission to euthanise his disabled child, and Hitler sent an SS doctor to make a judgement. We know this because the Nazis documented EVERYTHING.

People like you think you are free thinking and that by rejecting the consensus you are being intelligent.

All you are actually doing is transfering your trust from the evidence to cretinous trolls and parroting their bullshit.

People far more intelligent than you have already pieced this together, not that it was hard given that both victims and perpetrators are in agreement about what happened
 
Apollyon - 15/3/2018 05:07

But the Earth is flat right?[/

One of my grandsons, 25 years old I think, and otherwise sound in wind and limb, and brain so far as I know insists that the earth is flat and he's deadly serious. The other day I asked him why the oceans don't run off the edges. Haven't heard yet.
 
As it happens my wife's granny had her entire family murdered in the camps and herself was sent to slave training camp.

After the war she received a pittance of compensation and was featured in a documentary about the children that were taken.

Think there is more than enough on this thread for young people to recognise bozi and his opinions do not match the historical facts and living testimonies.

It's embarrassing to hear this from a nottm born person and quite shameful.

An open apology would not be out of place imo
 
You will be waiting forever because he believes he is the only one who can see the truth.

On other topics others join in with him but the principle is the same. Flat Earth is the only conspiracy theory we have found that he does not subscribe to.
 
We all know how flakey he is, ITTO, but at the end of the day you did challenge him on the subject.

"I'm still waiting to hear your conclusion on whether or not the holocaust happened?


ffs."


It was as certain as night following day what his response would be.



 
in_the_top_one - 15/3/2018 10:33

You will be waiting forever because he believes he is the only one who can see the truth.

On other topics others join in with him but the principle is the same. Flat Earth is the only conspiracy theory we have found that he does not subscribe to.

Understand his cynicism towards media and written histories but I do think people need to be evidence led. As surely as the earth is round the holocaust did in fact happen and the evidence is conclusive and completely unambiguous.

If the world is flat I wonder if the fabled revolving strip of land is at the edge :83:
 
If we r re-writing history with hitler as a man of fooking peace ffs lets also have stalin as funeral industry supporter, Idi am in as friend of the Asians and David Pl**t as a football genius.

 
in_the_top_one - 15/3/2018 10:33

You will be waiting forever because he believes he is the only one who can see the truth.

On other topics others join in with him but the principle is the same. Flat Earth is the only conspiracy theory we have found that he does not subscribe to.

And I've told you time and time again why, its manufactured by spooks at Langley, along with the likes of David Icke, Alex Jones info wars etc...

And I'm not the only one that can see this, here's writings of someone else who can see what the game is, try and read it to the end chap it may give you an insight into how things really operate....

Addendum February 19, 2018:

I can't believe the whole SpaceX story still has legs. Are people really buying the Falcon Heavy launch and the red car in space? I don't think they are, but since the media just reports what it wants to report, everyone thinks their neighbors are buying this.

Talk to your neighbors. They aren't buying this any more than you are. Everyone can see this is a fraud. It isn't even as believable as the new Star Wars movies.

If you can't see that, here are some hints for you. Look closely at the people narrating the event, who claim to be engineers. That was my first big laugh.

Do those people look like engineers to you?

No, they are actors reading from a Teleprompter. Next, notice the constant cheering, which is obviously pre-recorded in a studio.

Why would these bozos be cheering for an hour non-stop? Then watch when they pan across the people cheering. Do they look like scientists or engineers?

No, it looks like SpaceX only hires people off Malibu Beach and the halfpipe.

Then watch as the rockets come back down and land. Rockets don't land like that. You can't reverse a take-off like that. Those are films run in reverse and synched.

But the reason I am attaching this addendum is that the media is reporting some people are crying foul on SpaceX, but it pretends everyone who thinks this is fake is a Flat Earther.

I told you a couple of years ago when this Flat Earth stuff began to be promoted heavily at Youtube and online that this was why.

The mainstream creates its own lunatic-fringe opposition, so that when you disagree with them they can lump you in with this lunatic fringe.

"Oh everyone who thinks SpaceX is fake is a Flat Earther."

No.

I think Space-X is fake and I am not a Flat Earther.

So try again. But they can't try again because they have nothing else. They have no rebuttal. The only thing they have is a knee-jerk dismissal based on a Flat-Earth theory their own people created, so once you get past that it is silence.

You will tell me there are some people on Youtube saying this is fake, and then promoting Flat Earth.

Yes, of course they are, because that is part of the project. They want you to think there is some connection between Flat Earth and criticizing NASA or SpaceX. There isn't. That connection has been manufactured. Just as there are no real Communists, there are no real Flat Earthers. Every single one of them is an agent in disguise, pretending to be a Flat Earther.

Even before Flat Earth began being promoted and before SpaceX came out, I told you this is how they do it. I was telling my readers the Flat Earth Society was a NASA front a decade ago.

Back then it was used to protect NASA from criticism, but now it is used to protect SpaceX. That way, they don't have to respond to the actual content of your criticism, they can just dismiss you as a Flat Earther or other wingnut.

This is the way it is done. I have been the premier naysayer in many fields for many years, so I know this firsthand. Not once have these people addressed the content of my papers. They are not paid to address the content in a scientific manner, and couldn't do so if they were. They are paid to misdirect, talking about anything but the facts at hand.

If the subject is photons for instance (on my science site), they immediately misdirect the discussion into Flat Earth, or my hair, or ballet, or some joke I made about Jim Fetzer, or how I once misspelled a word. It is called sophisty. It is also called pettifogging. It is also called being paid liars and spinners, and the mainstream has an infinite well of those.



http://mileswmathis.com/musk.pdf




 
And I've told you time and time again why, its manufactured by spooks at Langley, along with the likes of David Icke, Alex Jones info wars etc...

And I'm not the only one that can see this, here's writings of someone else who can see what the game is, try and read it to the end chap it may give you an insight into how things really operate....

Addendum February 19, 2018:

I can't believe the whole SpaceX story still has legs. Are people really buying the Falcon Heavy launch and the red car in space? I don't think they are, but since the media just reports what it wants to report, everyone thinks their neighbors are buying this.

Talk to your neighbors. They aren't buying this any more than you are. Everyone can see this is a fraud. It isn't even as believable as the new Star Wars movies.

If you can't see that, here are some hints for you. Look closely at the people narrating the event, who claim to be engineers. That was my first big laugh.

Do those people look like engineers to you?

No, they are actors reading from a Teleprompter. Next, notice the constant cheering, which is obviously pre-recorded in a studio.

Why would these bozos be cheering for an hour non-stop? Then watch when they pan across the people cheering. Do they look like scientists or engineers?

No, it looks like SpaceX only hires people off Malibu Beach and the halfpipe.

Then watch as the rockets come back down and land. Rockets don't land like that. You can't reverse a take-off like that. Those are films run in reverse and synched.

But the reason I am attaching this addendum is that the media is reporting some people are crying foul on SpaceX, but it pretends everyone who thinks this is fake is a Flat Earther.

I told you a couple of years ago when this Flat Earth stuff began to be promoted heavily at Youtube and online that this was why.

The mainstream creates its own lunatic-fringe opposition, so that when you disagree with them they can lump you in with this lunatic fringe.

"Oh everyone who thinks SpaceX is fake is a Flat Earther."

No.

I think Space-X is fake and I am not a Flat Earther.

So try again. But they can't try again because they have nothing else. They have no rebuttal. The only thing they have is a knee-jerk dismissal based on a Flat-Earth theory their own people created, so once you get past that it is silence.

You will tell me there are some people on Youtube saying this is fake, and then promoting Flat Earth.

Yes, of course they are, because that is part of the project. They want you to think there is some connection between Flat Earth and criticizing NASA or SpaceX. There isn't. That connection has been manufactured. Just as there are no real Communists, there are no real Flat Earthers. Every single one of them is an agent in disguise, pretending to be a Flat Earther.

Even before Flat Earth began being promoted and before SpaceX came out, I told you this is how they do it. I was telling my readers the Flat Earth Society was a NASA front a decade ago.

Back then it was used to protect NASA from criticism, but now it is used to protect SpaceX. That way, they don't have to respond to the actual content of your criticism, they can just dismiss you as a Flat Earther or other wingnut.

This is the way it is done. I have been the premier naysayer in many fields for many years, so I know this firsthand. Not once have these people addressed the content of my papers. They are not paid to address the content in a scientific manner, and couldn't do so if they were. They are paid to misdirect, talking about anything but the facts at hand.

If the subject is photons for instance (on my science site), they immediately misdirect the discussion into Flat Earth, or my hair, or ballet, or some joke I made about Jim Fetzer, or how I once misspelled a word. It is called sophisty. It is also called pettifogging. It is also called being paid liars and spinners, and the mainstream has an infinite well of those.



http://mileswmathis.com/musk.pdf

Even if all that were true you don't seem to be aware of the effect you have on others- it tends to come across as prosletyising. Not to put to fine a point on it but your ego means it is hard to tell the difference between you and the other BS artists.