Fully agree with you on Mings and for the record, he's 28, 29 in March. So we have about a year to get out money back on him before he hits the big 30 and becomes worthless or his value plummets rather. High stock value, England international time to move him on. We've let too many run down their contracts and walk for free. Not sure who would buy him thoughFair bit on Mings in this podcast
(also in the Brighton thread)
Sell sell sell, start the car mate.Fully agree with you on Mings and for the record, he's 28, 29 in March. So we have about a year to get out money back on him before he hits the big 30 and becomes worthless or his value plummets rather. High stock value, England international time to move him on. We've let too many run down their contracts and walk for free. Not sure who would buy him though
Fully agree with you on Mings and for the record, he's 28, 29 in March. So we have about a year to get out money back on him before he hits the big 30 and becomes worthless or his value plummets rather. High stock value, England international time to move him on. We've let too many run down their contracts and walk for free. Not sure who would buy him though
I think there would be plenty of takers if we were looking to sell Mings, he's an England international. Look at all the CB partnerships in the premier league and you could pick faults with basically all of them. With the way defenders are asked to play out from the back these days they are all prone to a mistake or two. Maguire & Stones are considered Englands best 2 CB's yet they get loads of abuse (especially on here) for being shite.
I'm not suggesting Mings is perfect, but he's not as bad as some would suggest and a stronger midfield in front of them would solve some of our defensive issues.
I don't see any clubs that would want him, if Slabhead and Stones are the best England have then you can see why Coady and Mings are backups
I think Mings is trading on his brilliant gutsy performances from the Championship, and fans who still rate him probably still think SJM is a 50m player and Conor Hourihane should still be in the squad, I think they might have given up on Jed now though.
I agree an England CB should fetch good money but who would actually spend it on him? I can't think of a single team even Burnely have better CB's, I think he's bog-standard. Top 6 clubs no way, the rest are no better than us that leaves Newcastle and he's allegedly fallen out with Howe. Personally, I think Konsa is far better and so do most of us.
The secret of running a self-funding club is selling at the right time and now is the right time or the next 12 months is.
But Mings, partly because he's 28, has more experience in a wider sense, and I think has better vision then the other options including Konsa. That's why it's often Mings who makes the vital block, and why he's the one to organise the defence. Konsa's very good, but having Mings alongside helps.Mings is a 28 year player with the match experience and game time of a 24 year old rookie. Thats really the issue IMO. Konsa is a bit of a prodigy but they both have about the same amount of game time and match experience. I don't think Konsa should be as far along as he is but Mings shouldnt be as poor as he is either.
Thats where I see Tuanzebe as a starter as pure folly, he'd come in and do a job here and there but a starter? That was a Steve Bruce mistake from Deano and he should have known better. Vastly over estimated his own ability and Axels.
Unless we see total competence from Mings between now and the end of the season we should get a good, solid and reliable partner for Konsa in the summer.
Everton - good call. Good fitWell it's coming down to personal opinions now I suppose, but with a better midfield in front of the backline they wouldn't be as exposed so much. The video above points out that Mings plays better for England than Villa, I'd also say the same about Stones and Maguire but they usually have a solid base of Rice and one other DM in front of them - we don't get that with our midfield.
As for Mings leaving - he'd walk into Evertons backline, no way is Holgate or Mina better than him. Newcastle is another although he had a fall out with Howe so that isn't happening. Burnley wouldn't pay the fee but I don't see Ben Mee as an improvement and Tarkowski has been getting stick off Burnley fans this season for his form. Palace, Southampton are others but they probably couldnt afford him either.
It would obviously depend on our valuation but unless it was silly money I'm positive there would be buyers. Personally I dont think he's our weakest link, so wouldn't be looking to make a change there. Midfield and potentially LB are our biggest concerns for me.
This is spot on. Konsa is much better and if we want to push up the table we should be doing better than Mings.Mings is a 28 year player with the match experience and game time of a 24 year old rookie. Thats really the issue IMO. Konsa is a bit of a prodigy but they both have about the same amount of game time and match experience. I don't think Konsa should be as far along as he is but Mings shouldnt be as poor as he is either.
Thats where I see Tuanzebe as a starter as pure folly, he'd come in and do a job here and there but a starter? That was a Steve Bruce mistake from Deano and he should have known better. Vastly over estimated his own ability and Axels.
Unless we see total competence from Mings between now and the end of the season we should get a good, solid and reliable partner for Konsa in the summer.
This is spot on. Konsa is much better and if we want to push up the table we should be doing better than Mings.
He only gets a game against the shite teams that's probably whyInteresting you don't see aimless punts down the left from him when playing for England.
Interesting you don't see aimless punts down the left from him when playing for England.