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Steve Sutton

Seriously what the actual fook

Mayhem lost 144 files on a Westminster nonce ring whilst she was in charge of the active investigation, that alone should have made any decent person not vote for the tories..that says a lot about the people who did. Suppose its ok to be a nonce if you are friends with Mayhem

Lets not forget they have doubled the national debt in 7 short years - could they get on record breakers? I can hear Roy Castle playing the theme tune

Have increased immigration - look up their record over the last 7 years

And now are making deals with the DUP ( UVF, UR) - incredible

When you read the above points you would think their is no way any Tory would vote Tory

But yep they did

Wouldn't it be incredible if the DUP rejected the Tories for being too extreme ...

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I hear Corybn is now going to offer free beer to all football fans during and after a match and children under 25. He plans to remove the alcohol ban while watching football in grounds.

I also understand all Manu fans are getting free sky sports for life.

They will say anything to young naive voters and bloody fecking teachers to get into power.

Last night on EMT. "why did you vote Corbyn?" young kid "cos he is going to keep the minimum wage or someat"

This mess is all the Tories fault.
 
Realblustone - 10/6/2017 08:43

I hear Corybn is now going to offer free beer to all football fans during and after a match and children under 25. He plans to remove the alcohol ban while watching football in grounds.

I also understand all Manu fans are getting free sky sports for life.

They will say anything to young naive voters and bloody fecking teachers to get into power.

Last night on EMT. "why did you vote Corbyn?" young kid "cos he is going to keep the minimum wage or someat"

This mess is all the Tories fault.

It is just mental

Just apply everything that has been said about the Labour party over the last 2 years and look at the Tory party now..everything that was said about them has actually turned out to be true except it isn't Labour is it? it is the dirty noncing, economy destroying, unchecked immigration, terrorist supporting Tories

It must be satire of the highest calibre, no?
 
toms - 10/6/2017 07:40

AdebolaCornflakes - 10/6/2017 07:38

You seem like you're hurting Toms x

I am AC. Where we are is an utter disaster for this country.

We are where the Tories and Teresa May has put us.

Over 40% of the electorate voted for Corbyn. You can't just rely on Mickey taking any more.

What is more significant is that 52% of votes went to centre left parties.

What is FAR more significant is that 52% of votes went to parties opposed to hard Brexit.

52% majority was enough for the Brexiteers to declare remainers disenfranchised and claim the argument won.

Well, now we have a new mandate. May fought this election on hard Brexit and the soft Brexit parties won. This was an election where the positions were much clearer than in the referendum.

The Tories now have no mandate to leave the single market. The right have NO mandate for hard Brexit. The people have spoken clearly on this and the Brexiteers need to respect the will of the people.
 
Just imagine when you are at The City Ground with your kids or Nephs and Neices

That you are sitting near or next to Tory voters who are happy to have a PM and party that are

Nonce apologists

Forget all the economic bollox i'll say it again and don't care how you want to dress it up you cannot defend it

Nonce apologists
 
Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.
 
toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.

What an insulting pile of steaming shit that is.

 
toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.



Yeah most of them have probably been fiddled with by a Tory MP and then watched as the then then Home Secretary lost the files


And then had to listen to people doing mental gymnastics that would win them gold to defend it

Pedophiles

Nope

Toryphiles

 
da fuq - 10/6/2017 09:28

toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.



Yeah most of them have probably been fiddled with by a Tory MP and then watched as the then then Home Secretary lost the files


And then had to listen to people doing mental gymnastics that would win them gold to defend it

Pedophiles

Nope

Toryphiles

You are truly unhinged
 
Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:05

toms - 10/6/2017 07:40

AdebolaCornflakes - 10/6/2017 07:38

You seem like you're hurting Toms x

I am AC. Where we are is an utter disaster for this country.

We are where the Tories and Teresa May has put us.

Over 40% of the electorate voted for Corbyn. You can't just rely on Mickey taking any more.

What is more significant is that 52% of votes went to centre left parties.

What is FAR more significant is that 52% of votes went to parties opposed to hard Brexit.

52% majority was enough for the Brexiteers to declare remainers disenfranchised and claim the argument won.

Well, now we have a new mandate. May fought this election on hard Brexit and the soft Brexit parties won. This was an election where the positions were much clearer than in the referendum.

The Tories now have no mandate to leave the single market. The right have NO mandate for hard Brexit. The people have spoken clearly on this and the Brexiteers need to respect the will of the people.

Loads of points here.

1. The British people voted against av. we have a first past the post system

2. The only centre left party remaining is the lib dems

3. If the other side think you won't walk away, you will get a worse deal.

4. A controlled managed immigration policy espoused by both parties is not accepted by the Eu if the uk does not stay in the single market

5. All the other parties wanted to remain in the Eu. Labour changed its position to appease its core voters who were turning to despicable ukip in their droves because of immigration. This was evident from the vote

6. No one I know wants a hard brexit and neither do I and neither do quite a lot of the Conservative party. The uk needs a good deal which addresses the concerns of a lot of your core voters.

 
Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:26

toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.

What an insulting pile of steaming shit that is.

Why is that? Are you saying that as a general rule the 18-24 age group has more experience than say 35-45 age group?
 
Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:29

da fuq - 10/6/2017 09:28

toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.



Yeah most of them have probably been fiddled with by a Tory MP and then watched as the then then Home Secretary lost the files


And then had to listen to people doing mental gymnastics that would win them gold to defend it

Pedophiles

Nope

Toryphiles

You are truly unhinged


Let me get this straight

Theresa May Lost 144 files during an active investigation of a Westminster nonce ring and people voted for her

And i'm unhinged?

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toms - 10/6/2017 09:42

Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:26

toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.

What an insulting pile of steaming shit that is.

Why is that? Are you saying that as a general rule the 18-24 age group has more experience than say 35-45 age group?

Experience of what?

I know 18 year olds who have seen far more of the world than many 60 year olds

I know 16 year olds who have been through more shit than most will experience in their whole lifetime.

I know plenty of utterly bigoted, uneducated, tiny minded 60 year olds. Given that we had the utterly appalling secondary moderns schools that 70% of the elderly went to perhaps by your logic we should argue that 70% of the over 65s don't have the educational level necessary to vote?

A vote is a vote. They are of equal value.

Only in a tyranny do you have people trying to stop groups voting or hoping they don't vote
 
Realblustone - 10/6/2017 08:43

I hear Corybn is now going to offer free beer to all football fans during and after a match and children under 25. He plans to remove the alcohol ban while watching football in grounds.

I also understand all Manu fans are getting free sky sports for life.

They will say anything to young naive voters and bloody fecking teachers to get into power.

Last night on EMT. "why did you vote Corbyn?" young kid "cos he is going to keep the minimum wage or someat"

This mess is all the Tories fault.

I think it's mays fault and her clique of advisors. arrogance in abundance. Lack of charisma. Lack of hope and lack of judgment. She needs to go but not to be replaced by communist Corbyn
 
Pope you were wrong about Jeremy Corbyn and you were wrong about Dougie

2 wrongs usually make a right?...but not in this instance
 
Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:49

toms - 10/6/2017 09:42

Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:26

toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.

What an insulting pile of steaming shit that is.

Why is that? Are you saying that as a general rule the 18-24 age group has more experience than say 35-45 age group?

Experience of what?

I know 18 year olds who have seen far more of the world than many 60 year olds

I know 16 year olds who have been through more shit than most will experience in their whole lifetime.

I know plenty of utterly bigoted, uneducated, tiny minded 60 year olds. Given that we had the utterly appalling secondary moderns schools that 70% of the elderly went to perhaps by your logic we should argue that 70% of the over 65s don't have the educational level necessary to vote?

A vote is a vote. They are of equal value.

Only in a tyranny do you have people trying to stop groups voting or hoping they don't vote

Eh. I didn't say an age group shouldn't have the vote. You've taken what I've said and twisted it. I seem to remember a lot of people saying leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

The critical experience you have missed out is living through an era. They have not done that and I think neither have you. The ideology sounds splendid but the practice is anything but
 
da fuq - 10/6/2017 09:52

Pope you were wrong about Jeremy Corbyn and you were wrong about Dougie

2 wrongs usually make a right?...but not in this instance

I was wrong about Jeremy Corbyn and happy to admit as much. I've rejoined the party and could teach you a thing or two about political loyalty.

Wasn't wrong about DF at all and you can't prove otherwise.

You've been wrong about pretty much every manager at every signing we have made for years. More importantly you were absolutely categorically wrong for years about our owner.

NONE of that is relevant to the general election. We are all talking about the election and you are ranging and raving about @@@@@philes. I'm not sure anyone even understands what you are raving about
 
toms - 10/6/2017 09:57

Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:49

toms - 10/6/2017 09:42

Pope John XXIII - 10/6/2017 09:26

toms - 10/6/2017 09:24

Crazy Joe Davola - 10/6/2017 08:49

I'm neither young or a teacher and not naive. Maybe It is you who needs to step back consider and think am I right.

You may not be but the youth propped up the labour vote and although I'm sure many are bright people most don't have sufficient experience to realise what the end result of a socialist government is.

What an insulting pile of steaming shit that is.

Why is that? Are you saying that as a general rule the 18-24 age group has more experience than say 35-45 age group?

Experience of what?

I know 18 year olds who have seen far more of the world than many 60 year olds

I know 16 year olds who have been through more shit than most will experience in their whole lifetime.

I know plenty of utterly bigoted, uneducated, tiny minded 60 year olds. Given that we had the utterly appalling secondary moderns schools that 70% of the elderly went to perhaps by your logic we should argue that 70% of the over 65s don't have the educational level necessary to vote?

A vote is a vote. They are of equal value.

Only in a tyranny do you have people trying to stop groups voting or hoping they don't vote

Eh. I didn't say an age group shouldn't have the vote. You've taken what I've said and twisted it. I seem to remember a lot of people saying leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

The critical experience you have missed out is living through an era. They have not done that and I think neither have you. The ideology sounds splendid but the practice is anything but

No but you are belittling their votes. You are saying that Corbyn only did well because of the young, and they don't really understand.

Well, they understand that there was absolutely NOTHING in that Tory manifesto for them but more pain and more removal of opportunity from them to the old.

It's breathtaking arrogance and dereliction of duty to completely ignore a whole section of society and offer them nothing

Labour went from 24% gap to a 2% gap because they offered something for everyone.

You argue they can't do it. But they costed everything and they believed they could. At the very least, you could rely on them to try. Theirs was a message of hope, that a wealthy country doesn't need to behave like a poor one.

The Tories message was just about what people cannot have whilst putting more money in the trust funds of the 1% and in the hands of businesses which frankly aren't doing their part in society that well.

You say the young haven't lived through an era but that is so myopic Toms. I have lived through two Tory eras and seen nothing but decay, lies, wealth heading to the top, narrowing of opportunities and destruction of equality and public services. I grew up in a mixed Tory/Labour family but having lived through two Tory eras I have them and would never vote for them.

You have lived through he same eras and thought it was great.

So don't be so arrogant as to assume that if the young had experienced a labour government they would automatically think the same as you do about it