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Study: up to 95 percent of 2020 U.S. riots are linked to Black Lives Matter - The Frontier Post

A small quote from the article:
The cause of violence is not the police. It is not poverty. It is not one’s race. To say so is in fact a smear against poor people and people of the racial group identified. The cause of violence is the people who have chosen to be violent.

An interesting take on who are behind most of the violence in the US. It's enough to make you think that the biggest threat to US democracy and freedom is from Marxist extremists.

I'm guessing the other 5% of the threat is coming from the white supremacists. Perhaps they will do a piece on those nutters as well. It would be nice to have full balanced context on where the threat is coming from.

Not your usual source of info either. Apparently it's a Pakistan based magazine whose main contributor is recognised by Amnesty International for the struggles he has faced. Can't imagine Amnesty giving a free pass to anyone that has failed the 'holding acceptable opinions' test.

Then again they may have to review his status after that piece.
 
Y'all remember the US presidential elections when Biden was slating Trump about his handling of the Covid pandemic and how he (creepy Joe) had a plan and was going to fix it?

Now bearing in mind one of the men didn't have a vaccine and one does (can you guess who does), yup that hasn't aged at all well.

More Americans have died of COVID-19 on Biden’s watch than on Trump’s – American Digest

COVID Death Toll Under Biden Set to Surpass Trump, In Less Time - Nwo Report

"During his final debate with Trump, Biden asserted that “anyone who’s responsible for that many deaths” – 220,000 at the time – “should not remain as President of the United States of America.”

Will you be doing the decent thing then Joe? LGBTQ (LetsGetBidenToQuit)
 
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hulloutpost said:
Study: up to 95 percent of 2020 U.S. riots are linked to Black Lives Matter - The Frontier Post

A small quote from the article:
The cause of violence is not the police. It is not poverty. It is not one’s race. To say so is in fact a smear against poor people and people of the racial group identified. The cause of violence is the people who have chosen to be violent.

An interesting take on who are behind most of the violence in the US. It's enough to make you think that the biggest threat to US democracy and freedom is from Marxist extremists.

I'm guessing the other 5% of the threat is coming from the white supremacists. Perhaps they will do a piece on those nutters as well. It would be nice to have full balanced context on where the threat is coming from.

Not your usual source of info either. Apparently it's a Pakistan based magazine whose main contributor is recognised by Amnesty International for the struggles he has faced. Can't imagine Amnesty giving a free pass to anyone that has failed the 'holding acceptable opinions' test.

Then again they may have to review his status after that piece.
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Love to see the definition of "riot" used in that study...
 
Meanwhile in Tucker Carlson land

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucke...-better-journalist-than-nbc-and-cbs-reporters

Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night heaped praise on far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, claiming the Sandy Hook hoaxer is a “better journalist” than reporters at NBC and CBS while defending Jones’ participation in the Jan. 6 riot.

Just a quick reminder for those who might have forgotten what a batshit insane, nutjob piece of shit Alex Jones is..

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nasa-denies-that-its-running-a-child-slave-colony-on-mars
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...amages-sandy-hook-school-shooting-connecticut

For which his lawyers defence was: "No reasonable person would believe anything he says"

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-p...suit-argue-no-reasonable-person-believe-says/

The exact same defence Fox News used when challenged

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/9177...s-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Not to worry, Carlson's lawyers said. In written briefs, they cited previous rulings to argue Carlson's words were "loose, figurative or hyperbolic." They took note of a nonjournalist's use of the word "extort," which proved nondefamatory because it was mere "rhetorical hyperbole, a vigorous epithet."
 
Sincilbanks said:
Love to see the definition of "riot" used in that study...
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Contact the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) if you feel so strongly it may materially change the context of the article. It would appear they were the people collecting the data.

Here's the link to their website to help you:

ACLED (acleddata.com)

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) is a disaggregated data collection, analysis, and crisis mapping project.

ACLED is the highest quality and most widely used real-time data and analysis source on political violence and protest around the world. Practitioners, researchers, journalists, and governments depend on ACLED for the latest reliable information on current conflict and disorder patterns.

ACLED is a registered non-profit organization with 501(c)(3) status in the United States.

Please contact admin@acleddata.com with comments or queries regarding the ACLED dataset.
 
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Sincilbanks said:
Meanwhile in Tucker Carlson land

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucke...-better-journalist-than-nbc-and-cbs-reporters

Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night heaped praise on far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, claiming the Sandy Hook hoaxer is a “better journalist” than reporters at NBC and CBS while defending Jones’ participation in the Jan. 6 riot.

Just a quick reminder for those who might have forgotten what a batshit insane, nutjob piece of shit Alex Jones is..

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nasa-denies-that-its-running-a-child-slave-colony-on-mars
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...amages-sandy-hook-school-shooting-connecticut

For which his lawyers defence was: "No reasonable person would believe anything he says"

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-p...suit-argue-no-reasonable-person-believe-says/

The exact same defence Fox News used when challenged

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/9177...s-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Not to worry, Carlson's lawyers said. In written briefs, they cited previous rulings to argue Carlson's words were "loose, figurative or hyperbolic." They took note of a nonjournalist's use of the word "extort," which proved nondefamatory because it was mere "rhetorical hyperbole, a vigorous epithet."
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Meanwhile not taking one's eye off the ball: Rittenhouse used lawful self defence to protect himself from violent protestors at a BLM inspired riot (fact not opinion, for the avoidance of any doubt :grinning:).

Then we have his lawyers preparing defamation claims against such luminaries as the President of The USA and various media outlets like MSNBC and CNN for their lies and misrepresentation about the facts of the case and his character.
 
hulloutpost said:
Contact the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) if you feel so strongly it may materially change the context of the article. It would appear they were the people collecting the data.

Here's the link to their website to help you:

ACLED (acleddata.com)

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) is a disaggregated data collection, analysis, and crisis mapping project.

ACLED is the highest quality and most widely used real-time data and analysis source on political violence and protest around the world. Practitioners, researchers, journalists, and governments depend on ACLED for the latest reliable information on current conflict and disorder patterns.

ACLED is a registered non-profit organization with 501(c)(3) status in the United States.

Please contact admin@acleddata.com with comments or queries regarding the ACLED dataset.
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Ah now I get it. They highlight the data, but disagree with the conclusions drawn by the same organisation they are drawing it from...

A report accompanying the data project, however, reads like an upscale attempt to blame the police for criminals’ decision to steal, kill, and destroy. Several times the report explicitly does so, such as here: “Although federal authorities were purportedly deployed to keep the peace, the move appears to have re-escalated tensions. Prior to the deployment, over 83% of demonstrations in Oregon were non-violent. Post-deployment, the percentage of violent demonstrations has risen from under 17% to over 42% (see graph below), suggesting that the federal response has only aggravated unrest.”

The report also attempts to downplay the wave of BLM-linked violence sweeping the nation this summer, even while documenting it.
“The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity,” it states. “Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests.”
 
Sincilbanks said:
Ah now I get it. They highlight the data, but disagree with the conclusions drawn by the same organisation they are drawing it from...

A report accompanying the data project, however, reads like an upscale attempt to blame the police for criminals’ decision to steal, kill, and destroy. Several times the report explicitly does so, such as here: “Although federal authorities were purportedly deployed to keep the peace, the move appears to have re-escalated tensions. Prior to the deployment, over 83% of demonstrations in Oregon were non-violent. Post-deployment, the percentage of violent demonstrations has risen from under 17% to over 42% (see graph below), suggesting that the federal response has only aggravated unrest.”

The report also attempts to downplay the wave of BLM-linked violence sweeping the nation this summer, even while documenting it.
“The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity,” it states. “Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests.”
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There you go, two takes on the same data. People can access the information, read for themselves and draw their own conclusions.
 
Sincilbanks said:
Love to see the definition of "riot" used in that study...
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If its anything like this country it will be White supremacists doing a "peaceful protest" and antifa BLM turning out in high numbers determined to kick their heads in.

We get the same here. EDL do their drunken rambles and the UAF go in there trying to poke the dog and have a rumble.
 
hulloutpost said:
There you go, two takes on the same data. People can access the information, read for themselves and draw their own conclusions.
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Well one of them is apparently a well respected organisation and the other is apparently a main stream media outlet..

Looks like you are a one of those "lot of people"
A lot of people now seem to take their starting points from what they are told via the media and repeat stuff parrot fashion rather than actually doing their own research and coming to their own conclusions and thoughts.
 
Sincilbanks said:
Well one of them is apparently a well respected organisation and the other is apparently a main stream media outlet..

Looks like you are a one of those "lot of people"
A lot of people now seem to take their starting points from what they are told via the media and repeat stuff parrot fashion rather than actually doing their own research and coming to their own conclusions and thoughts.
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Except looking at the data as I did and you have - Most of the protests are conducted peacefully (good) in line with the 1st amendment (good). They are not the problem.

The problem is that in over 200 areas the protests descended into BLM related riots. They are the problem, just like the January 2021 riot (equally unacceptable) which was the fault of the extreme right.

Looking at those facts and stats it is quite clear that the overwhelming majority of those unacceptable USA riots were related to the extreme Marxist BLM. In my opinion that makes them a bigger problem and far more active threat than the unacceptable riot committed by the extreme right wing fascists.

Just saying that the majority of the protests were peaceful does not excuse the horrendous numbers of riots that were not, nor does it deflect from them unless of course the purpose is to try and down play the full extent of the problem.

My own conclusions and thoughts arising from research made available by the respected organisation ACLED :grinning:

Like I said previously, people can read the facts/stats and make up their own mind and reach a different conclusion. I wouldn't tell them what they must think and what are the only acceptable conclusions even if I'm not afraid to voice my own opinions.

The truth, free thinking and knowledge are the enemy of political extremists. That's why they spend so much time trying to advance lies, suppress information, misrepresent facts and spew propaganda via their politicians, social network platforms and pet news channels. That applies to all hues of political extremism (imo ;))
 
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impede said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ns-photo-congressman-michigan-school-shooting
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And so it goes on. 'Everyone' can have a gun and they are readily available. Criminals arm up, the police and law abiding citizens arm up to defend themselves from the criminals or simply because they can.

Guns are glamourized and we see the never ending cycle of deaths arising from homicides, accidents and self defence.

It's been covered in depth earlier on this thread but until something tangible is done regarding access to, and educating attitudes to guns, there will be no reduction in the number of deaths - whether criminal, tragic or legally justifiable.
 
 
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