New Proposals
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The Chairman is in favour of the proposals:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/foot...S7pAq7QQ6dawjCQh64jcOb6SMr9pvZhkEHoP6pWwv3PM8
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/foot...S7pAq7QQ6dawjCQh64jcOb6SMr9pvZhkEHoP6pWwv3PM8
Interesting. Where did you get the £160m/£90m split?
Seems like the most sensible (albeit still crude) way to distribute £250m would be proportionally on lost gate receipts. If that is the case, it would be closer to 50:50 split for Champ:L1L2.
That said, I’d be pretty pissed off if I were an owner of a Prem team seeing the cash being used to prop up the likes of Southend / Wigan / host of Championship clubs who consistently run at a loss. The purpose of the cash is to compensate for the impact of COVID.
Seems like the most sensible (albeit still crude) way to distribute £250m would be proportionally on lost gate receipts. If that is the case, it would be closer to 50:50 split for Champ:L1L2.
That said, I’d be pretty pissed off if I were an owner of a Prem team seeing the cash being used to prop up the likes of Southend / Wigan / host of Championship clubs who consistently run at a loss. The purpose of the cash is to compensate for the impact of COVID.
Unless the chairman/ owners who are crying out for help/handouts change the way they run their businesses the £250m will just go into a big black hole. This financial issue in the EFL has not been caused by COVID, its just brought it to the fore.
How many clubs have had financial worries over the last however many years. Until chairman and owners take a responsible view of running their clubs this issue will keep happening. Just look at the combined losses of the Championship clubs last season, that is unstainable with or without £250m hand out.
How many clubs have had financial worries over the last however many years. Until chairman and owners take a responsible view of running their clubs this issue will keep happening. Just look at the combined losses of the Championship clubs last season, that is unstainable with or without £250m hand out.
This is also true.
It's crazy that people like Scally are the outliers and not the norm. It's also a shame that people like Scally get moaned at from some quarters (I do believe a minority) because he doesn't put money into the club. In my opinion this wouldn't happen if loads of clubs didn't have owners bankrolling.
Spend what you earn is the way forward. But you have to ignore a lot of fans' (league-wide) unrealistic expectations.
It's crazy that people like Scally are the outliers and not the norm. It's also a shame that people like Scally get moaned at from some quarters (I do believe a minority) because he doesn't put money into the club. In my opinion this wouldn't happen if loads of clubs didn't have owners bankrolling.
Spend what you earn is the way forward. But you have to ignore a lot of fans' (league-wide) unrealistic expectations.
Scally is such a conundrum. There are things he has does so very well. He has kept us sort of solvent and the majority of clubs cant say that. He has a decent sense of humour and he does love the club as much as we do, of that I am sure.
If only he could develop a bit of customer affinity and PR skills he would be a very good chairmen.
Unfortunately i cant remember where I saw this, but i read it in the same article as that which did a run down of the wealth of all the championship owners. Those figures make it very hard to justify giving championship clubs any money at all TBH.
It can only have come from a limited few sports websites - as I dont read many. It must have been either BBC, Daily Mail (a quote not just taking the reporters words for facts) or either the GIlls FB group or this site itself.
I'd imagine that probably is the shortfall of attendance income to be honest. Championship clubs have much much higher attendances overall than the L1 and L2.
It can only have come from a limited few sports websites - as I dont read many. It must have been either BBC, Daily Mail (a quote not just taking the reporters words for facts) or either the GIlls FB group or this site itself.
I'd imagine that probably is the shortfall of attendance income to be honest. Championship clubs have much much higher attendances overall than the L1 and L2.
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I said nothing of the sort. What i did say that they were not designed specifically to help relegated clubs get back into the greedy league (to quote yourself). I fully accept (and thought my post made it clear) i accept they were there to help relegated clubs. Or more specifically i feel it should be looked at quite differently. I believe the motivations are more driven by enabling teams coming up, and teams battling relegation at the bottom of the prem league to compete on slightly more even playing field with other prem clubs. A competitive EPL right down to the relegation zones is of great benefit to the saleability of the EPL to TV companies.
OK some misunderstanding so sorry.I do think they were designed to help clubs back into the greedy league and they needed to do that to get enough on board. If you are relegated from the Prem you get 3 years of parachute payments but get promoted back in the first year the payments stop. The real reward is the TV money.
I agree with your general observations.
I agree with your general observations.
The D3D4 guys did a good podcast about the proposals.
If what they were saying is true, then it appears the proposal is very, very good for nearly all L1 and L2 clubs, decent for half the Championship, but no good for the other teams in the Prem outside the top 9 long servers (and those bigger Championship clubs with aspirations to reach there).
Teams like us that basically have little chance or interest in getting to the top of the Premier league, may as well agree to it.
Just needs to have some strong guarantees that the rules don’t change and the proposals of how the ££ are split up are kept in concrete once the top 9 hold all the power.
Well worth having a listen to the podcast and the things said.
If what they were saying is true, then it appears the proposal is very, very good for nearly all L1 and L2 clubs, decent for half the Championship, but no good for the other teams in the Prem outside the top 9 long servers (and those bigger Championship clubs with aspirations to reach there).
Teams like us that basically have little chance or interest in getting to the top of the Premier league, may as well agree to it.
Just needs to have some strong guarantees that the rules don’t change and the proposals of how the ££ are split up are kept in concrete once the top 9 hold all the power.
Well worth having a listen to the podcast and the things said.
BSS - I think you are onto something.
i.e. 25% of not very much is not very much - if the Six begger off.
And if they succeed, they will destroy all the European pyramids - and competition and opportunity for medium-sized towns everywhere.
US-style, top-down licensed franchises are an abomination to competitive sport.
Monopolies rarely benefit the customer / fan.
i.e. 25% of not very much is not very much - if the Six begger off.
And if they succeed, they will destroy all the European pyramids - and competition and opportunity for medium-sized towns everywhere.
US-style, top-down licensed franchises are an abomination to competitive sport.
Monopolies rarely benefit the customer / fan.
