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Bromley_GFC

Vital Squad Member
#62
The loss of the EFL cup is the biggest positive from it all. It's a nothing cup that neither lower league or premier league clubs care about at all. Yes it's a bit of silverwear, but winning it certainly wont keep you your job as a manager. The fans just dont care about it.
Really? On the morning our Tottenham away 3rd round EFL Cup tie went on sale it took me 75 calls to get just one ticket for the match. I think fans of smaller clubs do care about any Cup that gives you a chance of playing a top team. Getting rid of that extra chance is certainly not a positive in my book.
 

Captainreblue

Vital Squad Member
#63
Agree Bromley, the problem is these proposals put forward by the 'big cheeses' are to look after their interests whilst pretending to give a shit about the EFL. The EFL cup to them is like the paintpot trophy to us, unwanted games they'd rather not have to deal with.

Rather ironic that in 'helping' the EFL clubs out financially they want to take away one of the two potential money spinner opportunities smaller clubs get each season of a cup run.
 

Lark

Vital 1st Team Regular
#65
Financial package being prepared for clubs in Leagues 1 and 2 but not the Championship yet.
Seems to consist of grants and interest free loans which makes you wonder how we will be able to pay them back?
 
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HerrLjunga

Vital Squad Member
#67
Financial package being prepared for clubs in Leagues 1 and 2 but not the Championship yet.
Seems to consist of grants and interest free loans which makes you wonder how we will be able to pay them back?
BBC saying £50m bailout agreed for L1 & L2, be interesting to know how that's divided up.
 

jokerman

Vital 1st Team Regular
#68
I always liked the idea of one playoff place reserved for a struggler in the higher division. Just imagine the agony of trying to battle you way to safety up the league table and then having to endure the humiliation, intimidation and, let's face it, outright violence of playing at least twice against a team of lower league kamikazes.

That's how we encountered Sunderland, I believe.
 

Foxinthebox67

Vital Reserves Team
#69
Whatever the motivation of the two clubs who proposed the changes, at least it has got the premier league looking at the real problems within football and a dialogue looks like it will take place.

There does seem to be a recognition that there is a need to distribute the wealth across the leagues and this will hopefully safeguard the future of all lower league clubs and, in particular, ours.

So whilst the motives might be questionable, at least it might be a catalyst to finding a solution that is long overdue.
 

markinkent

Vital 1st Team Regular
#70
I always liked the idea of one playoff place reserved for a struggler in the higher division. Just imagine the agony of trying to battle you way to safety up the league table and then having to endure the humiliation, intimidation and, let's face it, outright violence of playing at least twice against a team of lower league kamikazes.

That's how we encountered Sunderland, I believe.

Yep I agree it seems fair to let the challenger from the league below to slug it out with the team fighting to stay in the higher league.
 

The Roone

Vital Squad Member
#71
Yep I agree it seems fair to let the challenger from the league below to slug it out with the team fighting to stay in the higher league.
That is how it used to be when in 1987 we beat Sunderland over two legs to relegate them. We went on to lose in the final to Swindon after three games.
 

blueworm

Vital Youth Team
#73
BBC saying £50m bailout agreed for L1 & L2, be interesting to know how that's divided up.
It's being reported that it's divided between Leagues 1 and 2 in the same proportion as the existing solidarity payments, which would mean 13/20ths going to League One, or £32.5m.

I assume that's equally to all clubs, which would be £1.35m each.

The last time I saw any GFC accounts the annual turnover was around £5.5m. I'm not sure how much of that is match day income, but presumably well over half. So, £1m or so is material but presumably nowhere near enough to cover any shortfall over a full season. Maybe it's enough if stadiums open next year?
 
#74
Financial package being prepared for clubs in Leagues 1 and 2 but not the Championship yet.
Seems to consist of grants and interest free loans which makes you wonder how we will be able to pay them back?
What percentage will be grants & what percentage will be loans.
Loans have to be paid back, so although being a life saver to some clubs in the short term, what damage will it cause long term. Not so generous as it first seems!
 

Alderman Barnes

Vital Squad Member
#75
You need to ask yourself one thing: when have the big clubs ever, even once, come up with an idea that wasn't designed to pull up the ladder and fuck over everybody else?

Once you've figured that out, you'll have rough idea where this is going.

NIce football club you've got there. Wouldn't want anything to happen to it. Here's some quick money now while you don't worry your pretty little head about the rest of the things we're up to.
 

alphabet_king

Vital 1st Team Regular
#79
I'm going to "like" your previous post. It is complete bollocks, but it is cool to hate premiership teams and I want in
Lol. AB asked for an example (in a pretty arrogant fashion), got one good one within 7 minutes, and then brilliantly arrogantly ignored it. brilliant.

It does seem to be popular to hate prem teams. Literally everything they do, certain people are desperate to look for the worst in it. Or then moan 'it's not enough'. I think some should be thankful they are keen to help L1 and L2 clubs - rather than insulting them further. I think they have a very good point witholding any help to championship clubs given their very rich owners, but it's clear that they realise L1 and L2 are not in such a position. Their help is gratefully received from me.
 

Tarian

Vital Squad Member
#80
Mandatory sell-on fees ?
To (say) Age 25 ?

Surely sell-on fees as standard would be a better way of incentivising smaller clubs than relying on hand-outs from the PL ?

The principal could be compared to:
- retaining a Share in a start-up company
- Patenting an invention
- Licensing use

Microsoft started in Bill Gates' garage. How much is one of its original shares worth now ?
Microsoft made its m/billions by Patenting and licensing its Operating System to be paid by future Users.

Sell-on fees may not be the immediate answer to the financial hole....
.... but it might dampen any support for more monopolising and anti-competitive ideas from the Big Six.