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Lady Thatcher dies

badge73 - 18/4/2013 15:22

Tellamuir - 18/4/2013 14:44

She may have been a great hero in the likes of Chile and Iraq, mainly due to her cosy friendship with horrible inhumane monsters like Mr Pinochet and Mr Saddam. She is probably delighted to be reunited with them, what a tea party, imagine the banter!, that will be.

Maybe not such a hero in the likes of new S.Africa, probably due to her fondness of apartheid and her stupidly labelling the great Nelson Mandela as a terrorist. Kind of sums her up really and shows what she and her kind are all about.

Horrible way of thinking even for such a horrible woman.

even a leftie paper suggests she had a lot to do with the release of mandela

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/10/margaret-thatcher-apartheid-mandela


And they took their fucking time. How can they be so right when theyre so wrong?
 
holtelower - 18/4/2013 21:06

I think you will find a treaty was signed in 1984

It's still totally different to the Falklands. Hong kong was a leased colony and returned, in all parties best interests and with strict guidelines, to China (albeit maintaining independence).

The Falklands is a british colony from it's days as an unoccupied territory. It was invaded by a foreign dictatorship against the wishes of it's people.

How you can compare the two and use it as a way to slag off Thatcher is bonkers. Both issues were dealth with in absolutely the correct way.
 
holtelower - 18/4/2013 17:56

Funny how she "fought" for the Falkland Islands, but then sold Hong Kong isn't it

Mind you , you don't get much for the Falklands.

Hong Kong was only leased to the UK (99 years), and was always going to be handed back to China when that lease expired regardless of who the government was and, in case it escaped your attention, Tony Blair was PM when that lease did expire.

Yes, an agreement was signed by Magie in 1984. An agreement to guarantee certain rights of the people of Hong Kong so that they didn't become subject to the full weight of a communist state when the lease did expire.

Try to stick to the facts and be a little bit less pathetic with your arguments in future.


 
As for her 'fondness for apatheid' another pathetic argument.

She was against sanctions against SA yes, because she, quite rightly, knew that they would hurt the poor black population much more than the affluent Afrikaaners.

Another fine example of not letting the truth get in the way of villifying Maggie.


 
Some of the arguments against her are ridiculous. Everyone knows she made mistakes (as we all do), but a lot of the things being used as a stick to beat her with - are things that she did well.

It's like slagging off Wimbledon for winning the cup in 1988, but not metioning their shocking bully boy tactics and terrible style of football!!
 
Well, my knees are bad. She took my milk. I'm calcium deficient.

Make your own mind up?

(The school milk was a f***ng torture and always warm btw! LOL)
 
How come she gets slagged off for calling Mandela a terrorist, but not for calling/treating Gerry Adams as one?

Is it because Adams targetted the British and Mandela targetted white South Africans? Thats a bit racist isnt it?
 
The teacher who organised vile Thatcher ‘death parties’ and compared the Baroness to Hitler, bought her council house using the Iron Lady's right-to-buy scheme and then doubled her money, it was revealed today.

Romany Blythe, 45, made £150,0000 when she sold her North London home four years after buying it off the local authority in Islington.

Lady Thatcher wanted to increase house ownership in the 1980s after she came to power, so she let council property residents snap them up for bargain prices from local authorities.

And it appears that extreme anti-Thatcherite Miss Blythe used the scheme to make a huge sum of cash

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311559/Thatcher-death-party-organiser-150-000-council-home-bought-PM-s-right-buy-scheme.html#ixzz2Qu5nfWNm

you cant beat the champagne socialist, with the some are more equal then others .... wonder how many others made money from maggies policies, yet continue to put her down?
 
The Fear - 19/4/2013 11:16

Well, my knees are bad. She took my milk. I'm calcium deficient.

Make your own mind up?

(The school milk was a f***ng torture and always warm btw! LOL)

She had no choice, there just wasn't any milk available. Someone had been going around pushing cows over all over the country and the milk became contaminated.
 
No frills airlines, do you want to pay £50 for your flight to Spain. Or would you rather pay £100 and you get a "free" dried up microwave meal on your flight?

Milk in school, do you want your parent's tax to stay the same. Or would you rather your parents pay more tax so that children get their "free" bottle of warm milk? (that has been sitting on the windowsill in the sun all morning)

- The moral of the story is; Things cost money and someone has to pay.
 
Jonah - 19/4/2013 11:11

As for her 'fondness for apatheid' another pathetic argument.

She was against sanctions against SA yes, because she, quite rightly, knew that they would hurt the poor black population much more than the affluent Afrikaaners.

Another fine example of not letting the truth get in the way of villifying Maggie.



Maggie, caring friend of the black South African poor? Do me a favour. She didnt even care for the poor in her own counrty never mind anywhere else. Compassion wasnt exactly her strong point.

You must have missed Cameron apologising for Maggies misguided South African policy then.

As for Mandela, suit yourself. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. You will be telling me Jesus Christ was a terrorist next. Truth, ha.

BTW, rumours filling in her grave with concrete is taking longer than first expected, seemingly taking a few extra days to build the sufficently large dance floor on top of it. But all that concrete should make for a good foundation, and also ensure she doesnt attempt to escape.
 
James06 - 19/4/2013 11:23

How come she gets slagged off for calling Mandela a terrorist, but not for calling/treating Gerry Adams as one?

Is it because Adams targetted the British and Mandela targetted white South Africans? Thats a bit racist isnt it?



Such a dumb question, even for a bean counter. :2:

And Gerry will just have to get his own thread.
 
Poor bean counting you. Classy? have you read some of the drivel you put up? Classy is right. Did you sort out them muslims yet? Classy. What was that great anti muslim chant you liked so much the other day again? Classy. FACT. So classy Jonah had to remove it. What was your Boston joke again? Classy. Cry me a river and get over yourself. Poor you. Maggies not for returning so deal with it. And if I was going to insult you properly I would have called you a moron not a bean counter, and I will endeavour to continue to resist temptation.
 
I have found this with a large percentage of anti-thatcher people, not all admittedly, but I have mentioned it earlier in the thread: they tend to be abusive and insulting and stray well off the actual topic of discussion, and turn things into a slanging match. it explains the anarchist, may day shop looters etc.... who go choose that style of putting their point across rather than calmly talking about issues, and more importantly listening.

A middle ground is what we need in the UK, a political system that does suit everyone and treat everyone fairly, but there is simply no debating or reasoning with the Jeremy Kyle generation that Tony Blair has raised.
 
Gents,do remember if you could see the smile on people's faces or the glimmer in the eyes you'd not read everything as quite as black and white as it comes out online.

Quite a bit is tongue in cheek and :56:

Live and let live I say, unless it is someone on my execution list obviously.