Old Red Fart
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Careful lads, you're starting to get into my territory.He won't get fooled again.
Careful lads, you're starting to get into my territory.He won't get fooled again.
Absolute fucking bell end
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/p...manding-government-helps-with-eu-visas/20/01/
It's all a bit odd.
I would have thought that if you are capable of learning a musical instrument, you are probably capable of sorting your travel admin out. The whingeing that is going on all seems to be about first world problems with glaringly obvious solutions.
As for Daltrey, fill your form in and shut up, ya big fanny.
You really are unconscionable - this is the destruction of one of the industries that we are actual world leaders in
This ruining millions of lives - It's not just about filling out forms
You say first world problems - you morons are dragging us back from being first world
It's a storm in a teacup; rousing by anti Brexit luvvies.
Though you may have a point, I can't ever remember any US musical acts touring Europe, ever!
I see you are trying a new argument about brexit issues- not teething problems now but first world problems only suffered by the middle classes or people with enough money to not care about.
Once again, might play well in mansfield but its not true is it. Food rotting in ports, people paying lots of extra charges for something they did for no extra charge before.
Again i ask for what? Sovereignty?
Its bullshit strett, stop pissing in our ears and telling us its raining, it wont wash.
It's a storm in a teacup; rousing by anti Brexit luvvies.
Though you may have a point, I can't ever remember any US musical acts touring Europe, ever!
I see you are trying a new argument about brexit issues- not teething problems now but first world problems only suffered by the middle classes or people with enough money to not care about.
Once again, might play well in mansfield but its not true is it. Food rotting in ports, people paying lots of extra charges for something they did for no extra charge before.
Again i ask for what? Sovereignty?
Its bullshit strett, stop pissing in our ears and telling us its raining, it wont wash.
Again you have literally no idea what you are talking about.Argument? I'm not arguing I'm holding the hands of people whining for no real reason.
As for this specific point, the EU proposals covered the artists but not the roadies and all other non-performing staff, this is why the UK government rejected them, they were looking out for the ‘little guy’
I suppose the poor fella who powders Sir Elton’s wig, and tells him how special he is as he comes off stage, is low on his priorities.
I have no tome for Champagne socialists who pretend to have a conscience.
Again you have literally no idea what you are talking about.
The vast, vast majority of bands have no roadies or other touring staff, and if you do, you are able to sort out visas easily.
Most touring bands stay on friends sofas because they already can't afford a hotel.
These are the people the government are screwing.
Again you have literally no idea what you are talking about.
The vast, vast majority of bands have no roadies or other touring staff, and if you do, you are able to sort out visas easily.
Most touring bands stay on friends sofas because they already can't afford a hotel.
These are the people the government are screwing.
WTF is difficult about sorting a visa out???
He really doesn't have a fucking clue he's a selfish britain hating leave voter
He's done more damage to this country than Hitler..they all have
Its not just bands its performers, theatre, stand up comedians, circus etc
They are basically ending the careers and lively hoods of millions of people
Just the basics of a small band or DJ playing in live venues in the nearest and most profitable market is now dead because of the costs of the paperwork and mark up on their merchandise and visas etc
And what makes it worse is the EU offered the Tory cu-nts exemptions from fees for live acts and performers but the Tory cu-nts turned it down
They didnt even ask for anything in return
Fucking leave voters destroying entertainment and joy
Fuck in ell
You really are a specific kind of daft
You're missing the point.WTF is difficult about sorting a visa out???
You are certifiably insane.
You're missing the point.
Visa applications cost money. Touring around the EU now has an additional cost of 80 quid per band member.
That will make touring prohibitively expensive for most bands, who are playing gigs pretty much for free or like £30 per gig, which is how most bands operate.
The assumption that all bands are travelling around with huge touring buses and staff is a bit wrong here. This isn't about Elton John, its about some experimental jazz band that aren't popular but enrich the cultural scene. In both directions it improves the culture. Its a classic example of 'things brexiters don't understand'.
I'm still holding out hope that government is just negotiating while there are no gigs happening.Well, if anything sums up the pointlessness of the EU, this is it. Have a lot of rules to make it harder and more expensive for artists to entertain their own people.
The EU are now depriving their own youth of a market they've enjoyed for decades, (including the 80s, prior to the EU, so not sure how they coped then).
They can always keep listening to their Euro-pop, and there's Eurovision don't forget.