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radfordinlondon said:
tbf I'm not sure they did. Things were going well for them under Cameron until he started getting bullied by Boris and co.

the original sin for the tories was agreeing to a referendum. no one was asking but them. since that point, no serious work on running the country has taken place. We hadn't finished brexit before covid started and we'd hardly finish covid before Ukraine.

can you think of a single strand they enhanced? 44 hospitals? levelling up? sunny uplands?

not like they even have a plan now beyond the aspiration to cut taxes lmfao
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Radford-the issue is uncontrolled immigration. Everything stems from that. the system can cope.

Regarding the referendum, Cameron needed to do it or he was losing that election-he just never thought he was going to lose
 
toms said:

Is this what they mean by Net Zero?​

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Labour’s private school tax raid ‘could cost taxpayer £1.6bn a year’​


POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT17 March 2024 • 7:00pm


Labour’s private school tax raid could cost the taxpayer £1.6 billion a year as it forces a quarter of pupils into the state sector, a new report has found.
Sir Keir Starmer’s party has made introducing VAT on independent school fees a flagship policy, claiming it would generate £1.7 billion to spend on state education.
But an analysis by the Adam Smith Institute (ASI), a free market think tank, warned that the policy was based on flawed assumptions and could cost the public purse billions across a single parliament.
Sir Keir has already unveiled seven policies that would be funded by his tax raid to the tune of £1.3 billion, the amount the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) has estimated that it would raise annually.
In its report, titled Short Term Thinking, the ASI said the £1.3 billion figure, as well as projections that only three to seven per cent of children would move to the state sector, failed to take into account higher inflation, fiscal drag and rising mortgages and house prices.
Modelling by the ASI showed that Labour’s policy would raise no money at all if between 10 and 15 per cent of private school pupils migrated to the state sector. If this rose to 25 per cent – as previously predicted by the Baines Cutler consultancy – the policy would have a net negative cost of £1.6 billion a year.
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about time. these wealthier parents need to be donating funds to the local schools if they think they arent up to standard
 
toms said:
How come no-one is mentioning the excellent inflation news today? Interest rate cuts coming as promised.

Why risk it with Robot Reeves and Nasalarmer?
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'cos of morals and I.Q. Along with the fact we know the tories screwed everyone but are only suggesting Labour will do.
 
toms said:
Radford-the issue is uncontrolled immigration.
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We are aware thats your take on things and why you get melt so often onn the subject.

Be it legal or illegal migration,numbers are going to rise exponentially around the globe over the next 20 years.
Countries can cry and scream and build walls, maybe have some form of hunger games going.. or the intellects in the world can figure out how its managed at massive scale and how we can all benefit from it..

Those da choices, despite the crazy ranters, the stop the boaters and the rwanda is beautifull tshirt wearers in UK, its absolute chicken feed arguements compared to the global picture
 
paz1967 said:
We are aware thats your take on things and why you get melt so often onn the subject.

Be it legal or illegal migration,numbers are going to rise exponentially around the globe over the next 20 years.
Countries can cry and scream and build walls, maybe have some form of hunger games going.. or the intellects in the world can figure out how its managed at massive scale and how we can all benefit from it..

Those da choices, despite the crazy ranters, the stop the boaters and the rwanda is beautifull tshirt wearers in UK, its absolute chicken feed arguements compared to the global picture
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Melt down...hardly
 
radfordinlondon said:
tbf I'm not sure they did. Things were going well for them under Cameron until he started getting bullied by Boris and co.

the original sin for the tories was agreeing to a referendum. no one was asking but them. since that point, no serious work on running the country has taken place. We hadn't finished brexit before covid started and we'd hardly finish covid before Ukraine.

can you think of a single strand they enhanced? 44 hospitals? levelling up? sunny uplands?

not like they even have a plan now beyond the aspiration to cut taxes lmfao
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I was responding to this bit, " they were too occupied with public opinion and screeching commentators, rather than being a right-wing, market driven, low tax, capitalist government that the country voted for."

Truss tried to do that. It didn't go well for her.
 
toms said:
Exactly so don't vote Labour or Lib dems...serial losers, multiple times. terrible track record in major cities. For someone who though Brexit was a terrible move, Im genuinely surprised you'd risk the recovery on Reevarmer ...but heh
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Conservatives have been leaving it in a mess since the 60s.
"Good luck, old cock... Sorry to leave it in such a mess."
 
in_the_top_one said:
I was responding to this bit, " they were too occupied with public opinion and screeching commentators, rather than being a right-wing, market driven, low tax, capitalist government that the country voted for."

Truss tried to do that. It didn't go well for her.
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She should have stuck to her guns and prepared a better plan. What a chance she had...now we are going to be left with more of the same but left leaning. Tragic
 
in_the_top_one said:
Well, if you will insist on bringing up Liam Byrne as some kind of 'evidence'...

We could talk about Black Wednesday for that matter too. Such safe stewardship!
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It's a historic document...I think its fair enough and as for Black Wednesday... really that one day is the best you've got....markets have recovered somewhat since then
 
toms said:
Radford-the issue is uncontrolled immigration. Everything stems from that. the system can cope.

Regarding the referendum, Cameron needed to do it or he was losing that election-he just never thought he was going to lose
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If that is the case then how in the Jesus Joseph and Mary can you possibly be happy wiv brexit when that has led directly and unambiguously to a huge rise in immigration?

are you going to dance on the head of a pin with 'controlled'?
 
in_the_top_one said:
I was responding to this bit, " they were too occupied with public opinion and screeching commentators, rather than being a right-wing, market driven, low tax, capitalist government that the country voted for."

Truss tried to do that. It didn't go well for her.
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the coalition was probably the last time we had a govt that actually spent time on this country.
 
radfordinlondon said:
If that is the case then how in the Jesus Joseph and Mary can you possibly be happy wiv brexit when that has led directly and unambiguously to a huge rise in immigration?

are you going to dance on the head of a pin with 'controlled'?
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Im happy with Brexit because we are free from potential further EU integration. Brexit itself is the concept...its implementation (in so far as it relates to immigration) has thus far been shocking.

But to be fair I'm coming to the conclusion that with or without Brexit politicians cant or wont control immigration because they all believe in open borders .
 
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