Detritus
Vital Squad Member
Depends whose truth it is, doesn't it. You rail against right wingers being barred from speaking after ranting about other extremists being allowed to speak.Stopping people speaking the truth will never work.
Depends whose truth it is, doesn't it. You rail against right wingers being barred from speaking after ranting about other extremists being allowed to speak.Stopping people speaking the truth will never work.
It's clear they meant incitement to violence and hatred but you've taken the phrase even more out of context than I did. Of course, freedom of speech is paramount but the people barred are spouting pure hatred, they're holocaust deniers and they've been invited to the UK by proscribed neo-nazi groups; sort VG either belongs to or has strong sympathies.The phrase "conducive to the public good" is far, far too vague for my liking. It could, in theory, be used to deny entry to this country of anyone from abroad who happens to disagree with current government policy (not saying that this is currently happening, just that it theoretically COULD be) and is open to misuse. The right to free speech should be absolute EXCEPT in cases where it is an incitement to violence or is intended to cause disorder (the usual example being shouting "fire!" in a crowded public space). Teaching a dog to do a Nazi salute is neither of those things, it is tasteless and unfunny sure, but is not going to lead to anyone going out and actually doing something (in this case against the Jewish community) that they wouldn't already have done. While I'm on the subject neither is posting the lyrics of a (freely available) rap song on Facebook in tribute to a deceased friend!
Examples pure hatred please Wayne ?It's clear they meant incitement to violence and hatred but you've taken the phrase even more out of context than I did. Of course, freedom of speech is paramount but the people barred are spouting pure hatred, they're holocaust deniers and they've been invited to the UK by proscribed neo-nazi groups; sort VG either belongs to or has strong sympathies.
If these people are as wrong as you say they are then you should welcome the chance for them to make fools of themselves! Shutting down debate just allows them to play the victim and doesn't do anything to refute them. If anything it allows them to become more popular because they are not challenged and refuted.It's clear they meant incitement to violence and hatred but you've taken the phrase even more out of context than I did. Of course, freedom of speech is paramount but the people barred are spouting pure hatred, they're holocaust deniers and they've been invited to the UK by proscribed neo-nazi groups; sort VG either belongs to or has strong sympathies.
And haranguing and intimidating elderly men outside local mosques?
Assuming a muslim perpetrator behind every public incident before facts emerge. Oh yes and then failing to apolgise for making stuff up.
Suggesting that Islam encouages and condones child rape under the banner of rape jihad.
Ignoring the numerous instances of serious child abuse perpetrated by gangs and members of far right groups. One of Britain’s most deadly paedophile rings operated in Blackpool. A white child abuse gang consisting of BNP officials and supporters linked to the disappearance of Charlene Downes, with two people convicted of the murder of another young teenager Paige Chivers.
Plenty of violent unpleasantness on your side valencia, very little free speech, or tolerance and lots of big, fat lies.
But you're intolerant of opposing viewsThat's what's great about freedom of speech.
We can all voice our opinions !
Returning to Free Speech...It's clear they meant incitement to violence and hatred but you've taken the phrase even more out of context than I did. Of course, freedom of speech is paramount but the people barred are spouting pure hatred, they're holocaust deniers and they've been invited to the UK by proscribed neo-nazi groups; sort VG either belongs to or has strong sympathies.
Get your facts right. The Labour Party is only anti-semitic according to the [unelected zionist] Jewish Council whose previous chair is now chief executive of the conservative party - get it? No wonder there is malicious intent behind the the latest flimsy accusations of antisemitism against Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party. Yes, members have been suspended and so they should be.In the meantime, there is serious concern at the rise of antisemitism, especially under extreme right wing governments [your buddies] in central and Eastern Europe. You may not think you're denying anything but you are in a way; you are using the same vile rhetoric that Hitler espoused in condemning jews and slavs when you talk about islam and it's followers. You are no different. I'm not at all anti-semitic - anti zionist or anti Israel maybe but so are many orthodox jews. I'm only pro-Palistinian because they have been illegally kicked out of their homelands. The irony is that the state of Israel's pro-settlement Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, enjoys good relations with the very far right political forces in Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic who are fanning bigotry against minorities, including Jews. Typically, your arguments are based on ignorance peddled by far right wing groups; you fall for it every time and you have the nerve to visit war graves.I've visited Belsen while serving in Germany.
I'm not denying anything. I have seen the evidence for myself.
In the meantime , there is mounting pressure on Labour to eradicate anti-semitism
Jeremy Corbyn and momentum are in denial , according to The Jewish Council/ Board .
People like you will always be against the Jews ,whatever they do ,and
you will always be pro-Palestinian Arabs
( or whatever other islamic cause you take )