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FAB - Fan Advisory Board - Your comments welcome

I know very little about your input with FAB JF but I am sure I must have benefited from it over the years.
Thank you.
 
"Merd" said:
It'll take some doing to change the culture of the average Villa supporter tho' :ROFLMAO: and they'll have to make the surrounding area more appealing. We'll be having
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As someone who was born and raised a stones throw from Villa Park I have no problem saying the area has become a shit hole and the sooner I am away from it after a game the better. Sorry if that offends anyone.
 
wittonite said:
As someone who was born and raised a stones throw from Villa Park I have no problem saying the area has become a shit hole and the sooner I am away from it after a game the better. Sorry if that offends anyone.
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My mom grew up close to Villa Park too and she would say exactly the same.
 
wittonite said:
As someone who was born and raised a stones throw from Villa Park I have no problem saying the area has become a shit hole and the sooner I am away from it after a game the better. Sorry if that offends anyone.
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my grandparents and great grandparents were all from Aston, Victoria Road , when i look at the old pics of them at home and their house its unrecognisable now . Sad really
 
Most of us cheered when NSWE arrived & I was one of them. The vision for success sounded great but the reality I’m seeing now is not what I thought we were going to get.

UE & co are very welcome but the continuation of the corporatation, if there is such a word, of the club, is not. Heck has just announced 3 more senior staff, so more bodies to pay for. One of them is a statistician & analyst, which can only mean maximising revenue through yield management like hotels & airlines do. So wait for the package growth linked to seats for prime games & other tricks to grow revenue from existing fans, tourists & corporate entertaining.

Is this really the only way to compete with the big boys? I say Brighton to that.

Heck talks about fans at his last venture being happy to pay big bucks for the right to buy tickets. Villa membership is already a stepping stone to that. NWSE are in danger of killing the goose. Seems to me things will only get worse. Typical Americanisation of making assets (you & me) sweat.
 
Gordonsleftboot said:
for. One of them is a statistician & analyst, which can only mean maximising revenue through yield management like hotels & airlines do. So wait for the package growth linked to seats for prime games & other tricks to grow revenue from existing fans, tourists & corporate entertaining.

Typical Americanisation of making assets (you & me) sweat.
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Absolutely, I did an equivalent yield management role for an American owned consumer goods company and it’s sweat the asset and screw the consumer as hard as you can, to satisfy some obnoxious and aloof shareholder in Manhattan.

Fine in my industry, but as someone posted earlier, football is a different business.

They’ll sweat every seat for every penny they can. I do fear for those of you in prime positions, as those of us in poor positions like mine in L8 have already been shafted.
 
JP Healy said:
Frederick Road, only really remember Aston Park, learned to walk there apparently.
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Remember watching the 77 FA Cup final at my great grandparents house was a lovely sunny day and we went out in the yard after and recreated the goals (or tried to)
 
VillaTomB38 said:
I do see it as a privilege to represent so many people much in the same way I see the union reps at work. I don’t know how many people are registered to this site active or inactive and social media too but it must be in the hundreds at least maybe even thousands? To be that person that goes and represents so many peoples views and asks questions on their behalf, airs grievances and so on is a great responsibility and even honour.

Sorry if anything I’ve said in black and white has come across as ungrateful or rude but some of these things the people at the club are doing are a proper wind up.
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No, more than happy to be called out, by a fellow fan. Bit protective of sirdennis because he is new to this, and stepped in to help me, as my health deteriorated (and my frustrations with the 'consultation' grew to be fair).

Agreed. Great responsibility. Never took it for granted (know you aren't saying I did) and often wondered how the feck I ended up doing some of the things I've done (even the latest thing and the reaction to it) and yes, in some ways, that is an honour, that some have listened.

But still say, for someone helping me out, communicating and stepping in for the site, just deserves thanks and also patience, as we work out the way forward with all this, if indeed, I want to keep this sites name associated with 'so called consultation' where we end up with massive price increases (I posted here what my statement to the meeting was, when discussing this - only to find out it had already been decided AND THEN they announced it saying 'after consultation' therefore putting the likes of me front and centre of something we had zero say on........) or frigging corporate in THE Holte End.
 
Gordonsleftboot said:
Most of us cheered when NSWE arrived & I was one of them. The vision for success sounded great but the reality I’m seeing now is not what I thought we were going to get.

UE & co are very welcome but the continuation of the corporatation, if there is such a word, of the club, is not. Heck has just announced 3 more senior staff, so more bodies to pay for. One of them is a statistician & analyst, which can only mean maximising revenue through yield management like hotels & airlines do. So wait for the package growth linked to seats for prime games & other tricks to grow revenue from existing fans, tourists & corporate entertaining.

Is this really the only way to compete with the big boys? I say Brighton to that.

Heck talks about fans at his last venture being happy to pay big bucks for the right to buy tickets. Villa membership is already a stepping stone to that. NWSE are in danger of killing the goose. Seems to me things will only get worse. Typical Americanisation of making assets (you & me) sweat.
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A little transparency wouldn't hurt and its hardly insider's secrets that will be stolen by competitors. I am unlikely to ever be in a position to have a season ticket or go to more than handful of games a year. However I am in full solidarity with every single paying fan of the past 30 years (and more).

The vast majority of revenue this club will make will be thru TV Rights and Commercial sponsorship. I get the lure to control what you can control (things we actually set prices for) but it seems like only the German clubs have a handle on things. We're not customers, we don't support the club because of brand loyalty and we certainly don't go changing our affiliations after a tough year (or 50).

It's a bit rich to suggest 5-10% increases need to happen to compete at the top when senior leadership makes a succession of poor decisions that end in a payoff (Gerrard, and his cronies + Coutinho). We know you can't knock everything out of the park but don't give us that. Certainly don't do a Chelsea and tell us you can't afford to subsidize a bus after you fluff away 1B in 12 months.

SirDennis and Fear probably have no hope of ever being able to hammer it home to these types of people (the top 1%). Nonetheless it is the truth. The ticket sales thing is one of the biggest jokes ever. Even if you assume the rosiest of rosey outcomes is another 10m really making a big difference to Aston Villa Football Club? Or is having a better recruitment policy, new commercial sponsorship deals and improving your league position going to have a much bigger impact on the financial wellbeing of the club?

Increasing ticket prices? Its the laziest and lowest-hanging fruit available. I'd seriously suggest Heck is not doing his job if this ticket increases like this are really the solution.
 
CDX_EIRE said:
A little transparency wouldn't hurt and its hardly insider's secrets that will be stolen by competitors. I am unlikely to ever be in a position to have a season ticket or go to more than handful of games a year. However I am in full solidarity with every single paying fan of the past 30 years (and more).

The vast majority of revenue this club will make will be thru TV Rights and Commercial sponsorship. I get the lure to control what you can control (things we actually set prices for) but it seems like only the German clubs have a handle on things. We're not customers, we don't support the club because of brand loyalty and we certainly don't go changing our affiliations after a tough year (or 50).

It's a bit rich to suggest 5-10% increases need to happen to compete at the top when senior leadership makes a succession of poor decisions that end in a payoff (Gerrard, and his cronies + Coutinho). We know you can't knock everything out of the park but don't give us that. Certainly don't do a Chelsea and tell us you can't afford to subsidize a bus after you fluff away 1B in 12 months.

SirDennis and Fear probably have no hope of ever being able to hammer it home to these types of people (the top 1%). Nonetheless it is the truth. The ticket sales thing is one of the biggest jokes ever. Even if you assume the rosiest of rosey outcomes is another 10m really making a big difference to Aston Villa Football Club? Or is having a better recruitment policy, new commercial sponsorship deals and improving your league position going to have a much bigger impact on the financial wellbeing of the club?

Increasing ticket prices? Its the laziest and lowest-hanging fruit available. I'd seriously suggest Heck is not doing his job if this ticket increases like this are really the solution.
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It is the lowest hanging fruit screwing season ticket holders and general ticket prices. I also expect they are also screwing sponsors and everyone else as well. It's the way of the EPL. Will they kill the goose that laid the golden egg? No sign of it yet.
 
IMO the club has taken a damaging course of direction where the fans are concerned.
As good as our owners are they have no public face with the supporters and unfortunately this has permeated throughout the club. Consultations and surveys are pointless when agendas have already been decided upon.
The Holte End has been divided into the haves and have nots creating a them and us chasm that I can only see going one way. Heck (another faceless bod) appears to be overseeing this, so I’m wondering if his surname stands for Holte End Corporate King.
I know I’m being squeezed out financially. My season ticket has increased from £370 to £610 in the blink of an eye. I know it will continue to rise rapidly (based on the last 2 seasons) to unsustainable levels for my wallet.
Maybe others like me will have to give up going to games? Who will cheer the team on then? Who will sing the Villa songs? Who will create the atmosphere? Who will keep going when the team are doing poorly?
It won’t be the camera laden day trippers bedecked in their half and half scarves that I’m being squeezed out for.
I’m Villa til I die and I wanted to choose for myself when I’d eventually stop going to Villa Park (I thought when I’d be physically incapable of doing so). However it looks increasingly likely that the club are deciding this for me. After 53 years of attending VP and potentially another 20-30 years, I am disappointed in my club and I never thought I’d even think that of Aston Villa.
 
I think what has hit home with me was realising what I am being asked to shell out for the Everton Cup game is basically what my season ticket costs per game £36. I'm no longer working and 36 quid is now a hell of a lot of money to watch a football game in midweek. A season ticket spread over the year is £15 a week but adding to that is getting a bit silly, especially as they have put the concession to 66, which leaves me in limbo for a year
 
Old Trinity Villan said:
There is also the fact OAP concession was 50% its now a fair bit less than that.
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Yes that's something that should be brought up , as we all get there eventually and we all take a hit giving up work , despite the current narrative that the baby boomer generation are all multi-millionaires with massive pensions and no mortgages.
Most are not they are people who have lost at least a thrid of their income and in my case 75% of my working income
 
Right apparently there are no minutes coming from Saturday as it has been decided to use that as a means of setting a better structure for future meetings. Basically the time constraints put paid to the agenda being completed , but a further meeting has been proposed for next week.

These are my notes from the meeting as I relayed to Our Mighty Leader last weekend

Bullet points.

Going to monthly meetings either face to face or zoom or rotate.

Separate specialist meetings if you like so a meeting just to discuss transport , ticketing etc. Good idea that , things get a bit lost when there are so many topics to discuss.

Badge rebranding costs 12 million apparently to change everything. Purslow didn't think of that apparently !!!. I get the feeling we might go back to the old badge like it or not.

Shirt sponsor he is not a fan of . Got a new commercial bloke in now I forget his name but he thinks he can do better so we will see.

Terrace is here to stay . Can't do much about it except can it but they've spent a fair bit on it. It's nice up there shouldn't be in the Holte end but he has laid his store out and said we might not like it but he wants more hospitality so at least he was honest. We did say got to cater better for the "normal " fan which he said he gets. Time will tell. The Holte Suite to be offered as a bolt on package as well.

10th October is decision time for the 2028 euros so will finalise the plans for the new stand. That's defo going ahead . Progress being made re Witton Station as Andy Street is up for re-election next year so needs to be popular !!!

Can't think of anything more that mattered. If I do I'll send it. I think there will be minutes anyway. Oh yes Jo bought up the disabled subject which you wanted and she mentioned you at the same time. There are developments there .

Rail seating in the Upper Holte to be installed soon.

That's pretty much the gist of it all , the new appointments were mentioned but that has been announced now. Elmo is clearly on board to tap up the Egyptian market and was at the meeting .

Like I have mentioned earlier I think feeling were made clear regarding the Corporate stuff in the Holte and I think that may have surprised Heck a little but then again it wasn't his idea. Villa Live has been canned with plans to use the old academy for match day stuff instead. Someone told me off the record that he never thought it would work anyway. !!!!
 
sirdennis said:
Separate specialist meetings if you like so a meeting just to discuss transport , ticketing etc. Good idea that , things get a bit lost when there are so many topics to discuss.
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Yes, looks like they at least took that suggestion on board from my doo dah sent to them.
 
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