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Covid, Phase II. Commonsense is the order of the day.

No you're not and you know it.

A repeating vaccine very year is very much on the cards - in this form - but the RNA ones that come next year are likened to the pneumonia jab - a once a lifetime dose that stops the virus stone dead.

Next year even if you do get it the new intervention drugs will stop you becoming hospitalised and you will be under no threat of dying, at all.

So this vaccine is good enough to set us on it's way and may get be good enough full stop - we will find out, the data will be collected and soon we'll know.

We have every reason to be highly optimistic that this is the end of the beginning of the end for this virus.

Sorry, I genuinely was. Not finding the cycles with work to pay much attention to this stuff and always trying to catch up. You have to constantly pay attention or you miss something.

I could see the part where there were less vaccine trialists than placebo trialists contracting COVID in the >40k trialists. That is great news. We all know a vaccine isn't a cure, but like HIV, if we can stop it transmitting then you can eventually eradicate it. I had missed the intervention drugs context and the lifetime dose piece.

Obviously, this has to be good news. I'm still wondering whether there is still a new norm though and whether the world goes back to pre-2020. I have friends in facilities management and I'm thinking that some of the things they are having to deploy and assess for the future will be around for a while.
 
Sorry, I genuinely was. Not finding the cycles with work to pay much attention to this stuff and always trying to catch up. You have to constantly pay attention or you miss something.

I could see the part where there were less vaccine trialists than placebo trialists contracting COVID in the >40k trialists. That is great news. We all know a vaccine isn't a cure, but like HIV, if we can stop it transmitting then you can eventually eradicate it. I had missed the intervention drugs context and the lifetime dose piece.

Obviously, this has to be good news. I'm still wondering whether there is still a new norm though and whether the world goes back to pre-2020. I have friends in facilities management and I'm thinking that some of the things they are having to deploy and assess for the future will be around for a while.

I am convinced that the 'new normal' will look very different to the 'old' normal.

I have direct and indirect evidence of employees saying, 'come into the office - why?' and employers already saying you can work from home moreoften than not - this trend saves the employee thousands and can also save companies hundreds of tens of thousands by not paying or paying a lower London weighting.

Companies won't and don't need as big a premise; offices could shrink by two thirds and be confiqured differently with new meetings rooms (Microsoft Teams has taken off, along with different hardware to make it seamless)..

Public transport will slim down, it will have to, we will have to rethink our whole investment strategy in Transport links; one analyst thinks they will have to reorientate themselves to greater leisure time usage and that means a whole new shift in how they've behaved up until now.

Great big new office blocks may soon be huge white elephants., and you will see a rush of applications to change them to flats.

Pension funds will get hit hard (check if any you're invested in is exposed to office property - and get out!)...

So the new normal maybe a step that had to happen but it's happening now instead of over the next 20-30 years - conflict has always sped up tech usage and expansion, and the conflict with Covid is doing that now.
 
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A great summary of what we can expect in the next couple of months and next year an dthe differences between the vaccines (proposed yet to be granted a licence etc):


Tweets unrolled (a great app) and it reads like this:

DbUIdA0-_bigger.jpg


Andrey Zarur



9 Nov, 44 tweets, 8 min read


Good news today with results from Pfizer/BionNtec. I thought it would be helpful to sum up what that will mean, particularly with regard to mRNA vaccines such as the one GreenLight is developing. In sum we will need more than one vaccine.

Over the next several months, I hope, we’ll see many different vaccines approved. Loosely speaking, they’ll come in three generations. The first should be licensed in the next several weeks; the second early to mid 2021, and the third batch later.

Each vaccine will have advantages and disadvantages in terms of a) Effectiveness against illness and/or infection, b) Ease of manufacturing billions of doses and availability of materials in the supply chain, c) Costs, d) Multi-dose vs single dose, e) Side-effects.

In addition, if the virus mutates, we may need to develop a new vaccine, so speed of discovery is also important.

As well as arriving at different times, the vaccines will be different in how they are produced and how they work. It’s easiest to think of them in four categories: traditional vaccines, subunit vaccines, viral vector vaccines, and RNA vaccines.



All four kinds of vaccine present the immune system with an antigen that looks like the virus, so that it learns how to respond to it when it arrives for real.

Traditional vaccines use the entire virus as an antigen, either weakening it or killing it before administering it. These are reliable and well-tested, but are slow to make and need large, expensive factories.



Subunit vaccines take a part of the virus – in the case of Covid-19, the protein “spike” outside the main body of the virus – and use that as an antigen. They are much faster to produce, but the volume per dose is high, so you need to make a lot.



Viral vector vaccines also use a subunit as an antigen – again the protein spike for Covid-19. But they get the patient’s own body to manufacture it, by having a genetically modified virus instruct the body’s cells to produce the subunit. It’s much faster.



Finally, RNA vaccines use a similar process, except instead of using viruses, the genetic code to produce the subunit is packaged in tiny blobs of fat called “lipid nanoparticles”, which can get through cell membranes to the machinery within and have it produce the antigen.



RNA vaccines have the fastest discovery process. That is why the first vaccines are likely to be the RNA vaccines from Moderna and BioNTech/Pfizer (looking very likely today), assuming that they are proven to be successful in stage 3 trials.

RNA vaccines come in two main forms – self-replicating and non-self-replicating. The self-replicating forms have the body’s cells make not only the antigen, but extra copies of the RNA and its nanoparticle delivery system itself. They get the body to make its own vaccine.

Self-replicating RNA vaccines are more complex and difficult to make, but require smaller doses, so you can make doses more per batch with the same-sized bioreactor.

Roughly speaking you get ten times as much vaccine per batch (see attached link for more details):



The first generation of vaccines will include RNA vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer. They are both non-self-replicating. Imperial College’s vaccine, on track to arrive later next year, is self-replicating.

GreenLight’s own vaccine, currently in animal trials, will be non-self-replicating, and will be among the “third generation” of vaccines to arrive, if it is successful in trials.

It’s going to be important to have lots of different kinds of vaccine. Partly that’s because it’s not clear that all of them are going to work, or be safe. But partly it’s because even the ones that do work may work differently, or be best suited for different groups.

For instance, the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine (a viral vector vaccine) shows promising results in the elderly. It has lower levels of adverse reactions than some candidates, and creates a higher immune response: wsj.com/articles/oxfor… from @jennystrasburg


Sinovac and Moderna’s vaccines, by contrast, were less effective in the elderly but had a good response in younger age groups, as @florian_krammer shows:
Unroll available on Thread Reader


Kate Bingham, the head of the UK Vaccines Taskforce, has suggested that some vaccines will not prevent infection but will reduce symptoms. It may be that those are more valuable if they are used on vulnerable groups, such as the elderly:


Also, different vaccines have different manufacture, delivery and storage requirements.

Traditional vaccines require highly specific manufacturing procedures, and new factories cannot be built at speed; however, they can be stored at normal refrigerator temperature for long periods.

RNA vaccines such as GreenLight’s can be produced in small, simple, prefab production units at short notice, with a chemical process that can easily be repurposed for new vaccines. However, they require storage at -80°C from manufacture almost to delivery.

There are other challenges. Almost all vaccines will need more than one dose; that is a significant hurdle. The MMR jab combines three vaccines in a single dose precisely because it is much harder to get a patient to visit the healthcare centre three times than once.

In the USA multi-dose vaccines, for HPV and Hepatitis, have sometimes had only 40% of people get fully vaccinated. We can expect people to be highly motivated next year, but this is still a challenge.

And multi-dose vaccination will be a bigger challenge in countries with less developed health systems.



Early vaccines also seem to have mild side effects, like fevers. Even though these are temporary, they may discourage some people from coming back for a second shot. Second and third generation vaccines may fix this.

Johnson & Johnson’s viral vector vaccine is hoped to require only one dose: jnj.com/single-dose-of… but it has been slowed down by pauses in the trial, so it's expected it will be a second-generation vaccine.


Another major concern will be producing enough of the vaccine. To achieve population immunity globally will require vaccinating a majority of the world’s citizens, probably twice each. That will mean a bare minimum of 8 billion doses.

And this needs to happen at speed. The longer it takes to vaccinate people, the longer the virus has to mutate. Existing vaccines may not work against new strains of the virus.

This is not a hypothetical concern. Already a mutant strain has arisen in mink populations in Denmark, leaving to a cull of all mink farms. And human mutation is constant.

None of the mutations, yet, cause concern, as @HelenBranswell says. But the risk is there.


The more people who get infected, the higher the risk of a mutation that makes vaccines less effective.



RNA vaccines offer the possibility of rapid, large-scale manufacture in small local facilities, which will be vital.

GreenLight aim to produce 1 billion doses over the next 18-24 months. Our process at GreenLight is relatively free of supply chain issues.

And scale-up further up to the required 8 billion doses globally thereafter.

Others think they can make 2 billion doses by the end of next year. But there may be supply chain bottlenecks. For instance, the people who supply Pfizer with their nucleotides will also supply Moderna.

RNA vaccines are going to be a vital part of the fight against Covid-19. It is vital that they are part of a wider portfolio of vaccines, because we need the vaccines we get to do many different jobs.

If you want to keep up with our work to produce a vaccine, you can sign up for email updates on our website at


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A great summary of what we can expect in the next couple of months and next year an dthe differences between the vaccines (proposed yet to be granted a licence etc):


Tweets unrolled (a great app) and it reads like this:

DbUIdA0-_bigger.jpg


Andrey Zarur


9 Nov, 44 tweets, 8 min read


Good news today with results from Pfizer/BionNtec. I thought it would be helpful to sum up what that will mean, particularly with regard to mRNA vaccines such as the one GreenLight is developing. In sum we will need more than one vaccine.

Over the next several months, I hope, we’ll see many different vaccines approved. Loosely speaking, they’ll come in three generations. The first should be licensed in the next several weeks; the second early to mid 2021, and the third batch later.

Each vaccine will have advantages and disadvantages in terms of a) Effectiveness against illness and/or infection, b) Ease of manufacturing billions of doses and availability of materials in the supply chain, c) Costs, d) Multi-dose vs single dose, e) Side-effects.

In addition, if the virus mutates, we may need to develop a new vaccine, so speed of discovery is also important.

As well as arriving at different times, the vaccines will be different in how they are produced and how they work. It’s easiest to think of them in four categories: traditional vaccines, subunit vaccines, viral vector vaccines, and RNA vaccines.



All four kinds of vaccine present the immune system with an antigen that looks like the virus, so that it learns how to respond to it when it arrives for real.

Traditional vaccines use the entire virus as an antigen, either weakening it or killing it before administering it. These are reliable and well-tested, but are slow to make and need large, expensive factories.



Subunit vaccines take a part of the virus – in the case of Covid-19, the protein “spike” outside the main body of the virus – and use that as an antigen. They are much faster to produce, but the volume per dose is high, so you need to make a lot.



Viral vector vaccines also use a subunit as an antigen – again the protein spike for Covid-19. But they get the patient’s own body to manufacture it, by having a genetically modified virus instruct the body’s cells to produce the subunit. It’s much faster.



Finally, RNA vaccines use a similar process, except instead of using viruses, the genetic code to produce the subunit is packaged in tiny blobs of fat called “lipid nanoparticles”, which can get through cell membranes to the machinery within and have it produce the antigen.



RNA vaccines have the fastest discovery process. That is why the first vaccines are likely to be the RNA vaccines from Moderna and BioNTech/Pfizer (looking very likely today), assuming that they are proven to be successful in stage 3 trials.

RNA vaccines come in two main forms – self-replicating and non-self-replicating. The self-replicating forms have the body’s cells make not only the antigen, but extra copies of the RNA and its nanoparticle delivery system itself. They get the body to make its own vaccine.

Self-replicating RNA vaccines are more complex and difficult to make, but require smaller doses, so you can make doses more per batch with the same-sized bioreactor.

Roughly speaking you get ten times as much vaccine per batch (see attached link for more details):



The first generation of vaccines will include RNA vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer. They are both non-self-replicating. Imperial College’s vaccine, on track to arrive later next year, is self-replicating.

GreenLight’s own vaccine, currently in animal trials, will be non-self-replicating, and will be among the “third generation” of vaccines to arrive, if it is successful in trials.

It’s going to be important to have lots of different kinds of vaccine. Partly that’s because it’s not clear that all of them are going to work, or be safe. But partly it’s because even the ones that do work may work differently, or be best suited for different groups.

For instance, the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine (a viral vector vaccine) shows promising results in the elderly. It has lower levels of adverse reactions than some candidates, and creates a higher immune response: wsj.com/articles/oxfor… from @jennystrasburg


Sinovac and Moderna’s vaccines, by contrast, were less effective in the elderly but had a good response in younger age groups, as @florian_krammer shows:
Unroll available on Thread Reader


Kate Bingham, the head of the UK Vaccines Taskforce, has suggested that some vaccines will not prevent infection but will reduce symptoms. It may be that those are more valuable if they are used on vulnerable groups, such as the elderly:


Also, different vaccines have different manufacture, delivery and storage requirements.

Traditional vaccines require highly specific manufacturing procedures, and new factories cannot be built at speed; however, they can be stored at normal refrigerator temperature for long periods.

RNA vaccines such as GreenLight’s can be produced in small, simple, prefab production units at short notice, with a chemical process that can easily be repurposed for new vaccines. However, they require storage at -80°C from manufacture almost to delivery.

There are other challenges. Almost all vaccines will need more than one dose; that is a significant hurdle. The MMR jab combines three vaccines in a single dose precisely because it is much harder to get a patient to visit the healthcare centre three times than once.

In the USA multi-dose vaccines, for HPV and Hepatitis, have sometimes had only 40% of people get fully vaccinated. We can expect people to be highly motivated next year, but this is still a challenge.

And multi-dose vaccination will be a bigger challenge in countries with less developed health systems.



Early vaccines also seem to have mild side effects, like fevers. Even though these are temporary, they may discourage some people from coming back for a second shot. Second and third generation vaccines may fix this.

Johnson & Johnson’s viral vector vaccine is hoped to require only one dose: jnj.com/single-dose-of… but it has been slowed down by pauses in the trial, so it's expected it will be a second-generation vaccine.


Another major concern will be producing enough of the vaccine. To achieve population immunity globally will require vaccinating a majority of the world’s citizens, probably twice each. That will mean a bare minimum of 8 billion doses.

And this needs to happen at speed. The longer it takes to vaccinate people, the longer the virus has to mutate. Existing vaccines may not work against new strains of the virus.

This is not a hypothetical concern. Already a mutant strain has arisen in mink populations in Denmark, leaving to a cull of all mink farms. And human mutation is constant.

None of the mutations, yet, cause concern, as @HelenBranswell says. But the risk is there.


The more people who get infected, the higher the risk of a mutation that makes vaccines less effective.



RNA vaccines offer the possibility of rapid, large-scale manufacture in small local facilities, which will be vital.

GreenLight aim to produce 1 billion doses over the next 18-24 months. Our process at GreenLight is relatively free of supply chain issues.

And scale-up further up to the required 8 billion doses globally thereafter.

Others think they can make 2 billion doses by the end of next year. But there may be supply chain bottlenecks. For instance, the people who supply Pfizer with their nucleotides will also supply Moderna.

RNA vaccines are going to be a vital part of the fight against Covid-19. It is vital that they are part of a wider portfolio of vaccines, because we need the vaccines we get to do many different jobs.

If you want to keep up with our work to produce a vaccine, you can sign up for email updates on our website at


• • •
Really interesting and educational EX...thanks
 
Really interesting and educational EX...thanks

For me it's critical that by hook or by crook we hit the herd immunity number as quick as we can - around 60% of the population (which is why we must educate the anti-vaxxers); we will still even after that probably have to have travel restrictions in place and we'll have to be aware of what we do and who we do it with.

As long as this bastard thing doesn't mutate we can best it for good (here, not abroad) in less than 12 months - I'm also expecting a small slew of intervention drugs that can be used to stop it from becoming deadly even if you do get it.

As I plan what where who I'll be doing in 2021, in my mind, we will be back to the 'new' normal by Q4 2021 - which is an incredible result and a testament to real scientists and real dedicated work.
 
Who had Rolls Royce shares then?

They are clients of ours, so I hold some :bounce:

The short sellers, of which I was one at the start of this mess, but changed from shorts to long in October, so got lucky. The rise is primary a short squeeze and some will be in serious losses today. Ho hum, that's the market for you.
 
And for an alternative approach to dealing with Covid, Brazilian President Bolsonaro told Brazilians not to deal with Covid-19 like “a country of poofs”.
 
Last quarter the bounce back was 16.5% growth, but of course we're not back to pre-covid levels, somewhere back in this thread I argued that the bounceback would be swift once hope was restored ...

For all of you struggling, hand in there, we'll be back where we need to be (economy wise) by the latest mid 2021..
 
If the vaccine(s) is/are approved clearly it will take months to roll out the programme across the population. In the meantime how will anyone know who else has been vaccinated? If you decide to play safe and follow the current guidelines until you're vaccinated, how do you avoid contact with someone who hasn't been vaccinated but isn't following the guidelines?
 
If the vaccine(s) is/are approved clearly it will take months to roll out the programme across the population. In the meantime how will anyone know who else has been vaccinated? If you decide to play safe and follow the current guidelines until you're vaccinated, how do you avoid contact with someone who hasn't been vaccinated but isn't following the guidelines?

My expectation is that the guidelines will be in force for sometime to come, at least until we hit the 60% vaccinations of the UK population that we need to start believing in Herd immunity (the point where the virus simply can't spread anymore).

So it will be carry on as before unless or until it's clear that the cases are close to as zero as they're likely to get.

There is a move to show you have been vaccinated in the NHS covid app - but I only know the bare info at the moment, it will work in the same principal as before - the app can tell who is vaccinated and who isn't There is further talk of a vaccine 'passport'.


So the default I guess, is that until we hot key thresholds we will all be told (vaccinated or not) to carry as before.
 
False news on Covid-19 vaccine threatens herd immunity in Britain

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Rhys Blakely, Science Correspondent
Thursday November 12 2020, 5.00pm, The Times
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The Covid-19 vaccine must be taken by at least 55 per cent of the population to achieve herd immunity


Concerns about the safety of Covid-19 vaccines fuelled by online misinformation may endanger the goal of herd immunity, a study has suggested.

The research showed that even a short exposure to misinformation about vaccines could be enough to make three million adults change their minds about being inoculated.

This could leave less than half the population protected, meaning that Britain would not pass the threshold thought to be needed for herd immunity, preventing the growth of new outbreaks.

The study, led by Heidi Larson of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, asked 4,000 adults about their willingness to accept a potential Covid-19 vaccine.

Before being exposed to misinformation, 54 per cent of those surveyed said that they definitely would.

After they were exposed to five false messages about vaccines that were circulated widely online over summer, the number declined to 48 per cent — a fall of six percentage points that would equate to about 3 million adults.

The study is the first to try to quantify the effects of bogus online messages on public sentiment.

The portion unsure about a vaccine increased from 40 to 42 per cent, though most of those said that they were “leaning yes”. The number who said they definitely would not get a vaccine rose from 6 to 10 per cent.

It has been estimated that at least 55 per cent of the population would need to be protected by a vaccine to achieve herd immunity, preventing the explosive growth of new clusters of infection. The threshold could be much higher, possibly as much as 80 per cent.

The goal of herd immunity would also depend on having a vaccine that prevented transmission of the virus. The most encouraging trial data so far, from Pfizer, indicated that its jab had stopped people from getting symptomatic Covid but did not show whether it stopped them spreading the virus.

“Our work has shown that misinformation can change people’s minds and willingness to accept a potential Covid-19 vaccine, a decision which could threaten lives around the world,” Professor Larson said.
“Reported willingness to accept a Covid-19 vaccine is already below the needed herd immunity threshold. Exposure to misinformation could push us even further away from that goal.”

The false information that the volunteers were shown included a tweet from David Icke, the conspiracy theorist, which suggested wrongly that a big pharma whistleblower had claimed that “97 per cent of coronavirus vaccine recipients will become infertile”.

The most effective misinformation messages, however, were those dressed up to look as if they had scientific authority, such as tweet that wrongly suggested Doha vaccines based on a type of genetic material called mRNA could alter a person’s genes. They can not.

The study found that women were about 40 per cent more likely to refuse a vaccine than men and that vaccine hesitancy was more common among 18 to 24-year-olds than among 55 to 64-year-olds. Messages that stressed how getting a vaccine might help protect others seemed to be effective in boosting resolve to get one.

The researcher said that false stories about the virus as well as potential vaccines continued to circulate widely. They include claims that 5G mobile networks have fuelled the pandemic, that the virus is a bioweapon and that vaccine participants have died after taking a candidate Covid-19 vaccine — none of which are true.
Professor Larson said: “Covid-19 vaccines will be crucial to helping end this pandemic and returning our lives to near normal. However, vaccines only work if people take them.

“Misinformation plays into existing anxieties and uncertainty around new vaccines, as well as the new platforms that are being used to develop them. This threatens to undermine the levels of Covid-19 vaccine acceptance required.
“Although studies have examined the effect of Covid-19 misinformation on public perception, the link between exposure to misinformation and intent to receive a future vaccination is less well known. This study plugs that knowledge gap.”
 
False news on Covid-19 vaccine threatens herd immunity in Britain

new
Rhys Blakely, Science Correspondent
Thursday November 12 2020, 5.00pm, The Times
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The Covid-19 vaccine must be taken by at least 55 per cent of the population to achieve herd immunity


Concerns about the safety of Covid-19 vaccines fuelled by online misinformation may endanger the goal of herd immunity, a study has suggested.

The research showed that even a short exposure to misinformation about vaccines could be enough to make three million adults change their minds about being inoculated.

This could leave less than half the population protected, meaning that Britain would not pass the threshold thought to be needed for herd immunity, preventing the growth of new outbreaks.

The study, led by Heidi Larson of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, asked 4,000 adults about their willingness to accept a potential Covid-19 vaccine.

Before being exposed to misinformation, 54 per cent of those surveyed said that they definitely would.

After they were exposed to five false messages about vaccines that were circulated widely online over summer, the number declined to 48 per cent — a fall of six percentage points that would equate to about 3 million adults.

The study is the first to try to quantify the effects of bogus online messages on public sentiment.

The portion unsure about a vaccine increased from 40 to 42 per cent, though most of those said that they were “leaning yes”. The number who said they definitely would not get a vaccine rose from 6 to 10 per cent.

It has been estimated that at least 55 per cent of the population would need to be protected by a vaccine to achieve herd immunity, preventing the explosive growth of new clusters of infection. The threshold could be much higher, possibly as much as 80 per cent.

The goal of herd immunity would also depend on having a vaccine that prevented transmission of the virus. The most encouraging trial data so far, from Pfizer, indicated that its jab had stopped people from getting symptomatic Covid but did not show whether it stopped them spreading the virus.

“Our work has shown that misinformation can change people’s minds and willingness to accept a potential Covid-19 vaccine, a decision which could threaten lives around the world,” Professor Larson said.
“Reported willingness to accept a Covid-19 vaccine is already below the needed herd immunity threshold. Exposure to misinformation could push us even further away from that goal.”

The false information that the volunteers were shown included a tweet from David Icke, the conspiracy theorist, which suggested wrongly that a big pharma whistleblower had claimed that “97 per cent of coronavirus vaccine recipients will become infertile”.

The most effective misinformation messages, however, were those dressed up to look as if they had scientific authority, such as tweet that wrongly suggested Doha vaccines based on a type of genetic material called mRNA could alter a person’s genes. They can not.

The study found that women were about 40 per cent more likely to refuse a vaccine than men and that vaccine hesitancy was more common among 18 to 24-year-olds than among 55 to 64-year-olds. Messages that stressed how getting a vaccine might help protect others seemed to be effective in boosting resolve to get one.

The researcher said that false stories about the virus as well as potential vaccines continued to circulate widely. They include claims that 5G mobile networks have fuelled the pandemic, that the virus is a bioweapon and that vaccine participants have died after taking a candidate Covid-19 vaccine — none of which are true.
Professor Larson said: “Covid-19 vaccines will be crucial to helping end this pandemic and returning our lives to near normal. However, vaccines only work if people take them.

“Misinformation plays into existing anxieties and uncertainty around new vaccines, as well as the new platforms that are being used to develop them. This threatens to undermine the levels of Covid-19 vaccine acceptance required.
“Although studies have examined the effect of Covid-19 misinformation on public perception, the link between exposure to misinformation and intent to receive a future vaccination is less well known. This study plugs that knowledge gap.”

I actually think that the general population can be totally forgiven for not believing much that is communicated by the government and through the media nowadays. They've made their own bed and the worst thing they can do is start creating a blame culture against their own voters who won't take the vaccine. They need to be more creative and encouraging in their messaging and take action against false reporting. That is the only way to build trust.

Even Pfizer's announcement was too close to Biden's win not to think that more manipulation has gone on.

Ironically, Boris's comms director, Lee Cain, resigned yesterday and looks like being replaced by James Slack, the ex political editor of the Daily Fail. Obviously, Laura Kuenssberg, the BBC's political editor is having a field day reporting on this :-)
 
I actually think that the general population can be totally forgiven for not believing much that is communicated by the government and through the media nowadays. They've made their own bed and the worst thing they can do is start creating a blame culture against their own voters who won't take the vaccine. They need to be more creative and encouraging in their messaging and take action against false reporting. That is the only way to build trust.

Even Pfizer's announcement was too close to Biden's win not to think that more manipulation has gone on.

I expect the government to now tackle the anti-vaxxers with a full on PR splurge, if they don't then the vaccination programme could well fail - and they know that.

I can't see why you'd correlate blaming the government for not believing what is communicated other than some of their pronouncements about what they were going to achieve and then didn't - that wa sthis government simply being too optimistic and relying to heavy on outside contractors.

As for Pfizers announcement, it wasn't done by Pfizer and was actually announced by the Independent trials regulator, Pfizer were unprepared for it and I'm told extremely annoyed by it. They'd previously indicated that they wanted to do a formal announcment around 21st-27th Novemember.
 
I expect the government to now tackle the anti-vaxxers with a full on PR splurge, if they don't then the vaccination programme could well fail - and they know that.

I can't see why you'd correlate blaming the government for not believing what is communicated other than some of their pronouncements about what they were going to achieve and then didn't - that wa sthis government simply being too optimistic and relying to heavy on outside contractors.

As for Pfizers announcement, it wasn't done by Pfizer and was actually announced by the Independent trials regulator, Pfizer were unprepared for it and I'm told extremely annoyed by it. They'd previously indicated that they wanted to do a formal announcment around 21st-27th Novemember.

I was talking the Albert Bourla Monday news interview and did think to myself the timing was a bit too coincidental. I wasn't even talking about the regulator. Of course, Bourla sold $6m of stock the day he announced. Obviously confident that's the high point then.

lol - not that I have a problem with a few of these high powered CEO's managing Trump out of power.
 
So apparently you have to be in someones company who is positive for Covid for fifteen minutes or more . ?
the Irish guy who played against England is not causing worries because nobody was in his company for fifteen continuous minutes .

is this right ?